Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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Also, wtf the wooden box artifact?

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

They better include a free banana with that.

StanM, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://24.media.tumblr.com/b78978798405088c6a4f856da77bdbbc/tumblr_n6nkmwuEcV1t5kowbo1_500.jpg
feel like "train round the bonnnnd" is how nico would've sung that song.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Chelsea Girls sdtk: http://www.volcanictongue.com/tips

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Are there any samples of this online anywhere? Saw it here:

http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/velvet-underground-chelsea-girls-s-sided-lp

and they have another record I'm interested in, http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/alien-city-lp

but I don't love to spend good money on new records I haven't heard these days.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link

https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10521177_10152567944675953_6049362458093982150_n.jpg
from lou's facebook page:

We thought it'd be cool to share a photograph of one of the more "mythical" artifacts of Lou and the VU.

Lou mentioned this in an interview a while back (Q Magazine in 1996, I think), that he'd recently unearthed a demo he had mailed to himself in 1965, the reason for which is known as "the poor man's copyright."

In classic Lou style, he had this to say about the discovery:
"I'm not going to listen it. I don't want to hear these things any more."

Well, here's what it looks like. And no, we haven't opened it.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

would be interesting if it was different stuff than the demo released on Peel Slowly & See

as for the chelsea girls sdtk, i think this is at least part of it. sounds pretty great, would be curious to know if the bootleg is better sound quality (which is dire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUIKvSQ2so

tylerw, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

According to the post below (originally from the Velvet Forum, reposted on Steve Hoffman), 3rd LP box coming:

Hi all

Good to see that folks are starting to wonder about the status of the 3rd Deluxe 45th.

So far Universal has been doing an excelent job with the Banana and Wl/Wh Deluxe sets, and the 3rd Album will not be an exception. Our guys will take good care of us!
This is what I can say at this point: a selection of the Peter Abrams Soundboard Tapes half inch, 4-track, stereo live recordings of the band at The Matrix Nov 1969 will be part of the Deluxe issue. The quality of these recordings is absolutely fanstatic
and the performances are superb.
As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings. Universal still working on which songs will appear, looks like 20 songs in 2 cds. Night and day with the Quine Tapes and Live 1969.

Juts these 2 cds will make the 3rd Deluxe a must for any VU fan.

Stay tuned

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

oh my god the Matrix recordings!!!!!!!

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

fanstatic indeed!

StanM, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

hmm this is the one I may have to get, if true

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

this would be nice. Hope it's true.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

So, presumably it will be
CD1: Stereo + singles/promos
CD2: Mono + "VU" + "Another View" and a couple more rarities/unreleased
CD3+4 : Matrix selections

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Not all of VU etc, obv, just the Yule tracks

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

I hope there is a cheap version of this with the live material. Though the 4 disc described above makes sense

Stevolende, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

will they include the closet mix and the regular mix, I wonder? This is looking like a must buy

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings.

SO RELEASE THEM ALL!!

Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

I was thinking that too, but I'm wondering if the other half (or near-half) has already been released on Live 1969. Because those are (mostly? kind of?) the same tapes, right?

And anyway, if they release part of the shows on this box, and then later release a Complete Live Matrix Recordings box, knowing Velvets fans will buy both, it's win-win! For Universal!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

closet mix is so pointless

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

...except for the alternate 'Some Kinda Love", which is amazing

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's the main diff. excited for the matrix stuff! it's about time. yeah, they might just go with stuff that is not the same performances as on Live 1969.

tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I'm p squarely in the regular mix camp, just curious how complete this'll be. I guess closet mix could be left as an enticement to backlist banana box purchasers.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

Yeah..

There was a mono third l.p. In the sundazed box, which 'version' was it, closet or Valentin?

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

(which is the definition of a Velvet Underground trainspotting question)

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

vu & nico was 6 discs, right? this could easily be 6 discs if they decide to include the closet mix + "lost album" material. I think levenson has said that session tapes exist for the album, so there may be some cool alternates or or chatter. lou telling doug how to sing candy says, etc.

tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

haha "sing just like me"

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

hmm, have only ever heard the closet mix

Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

Really? The Valentin mix is more prevalent these days.

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

yeh i only heard the Valentin version recently for the first time, sounded all kinds of wrong after 20+ years of closetness

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 11 August 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

Back whenever, I bought the (expensive) Japanese issue, as it has always used the Val mix, for to hear it, finally.

Felt daft about 6 months later, when the cd edition came out with the val mix for ever..

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

Definitely prefer the Valentin mix but i heard that one first so that may be why. Like the Valentin some kinda love better.

tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link

I was so baffled when I heard that new Some Kinda Love on the 80's reissues, I had tracked down a french copy of the 3rd LP. I guess I prefer the Valentin mix (which is actually the original, right?), but I much prefer the closet take of SKL and feel sentimental about that mix as a whole.

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

I prefer Valentin mix/"Some Kinda Love" too, but not by a huge margin. It's the one I heard first and am most familiar with.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Well, it seems it's going to be a 6CD set!

CD1: The Val Valentin mix (stereo)
CD2: The 'closet' mix (stereo)
CD3: The mono promo mix, plus the a and b-side of the single
CD4: "Sessions"


1. FOGGY NOTION 6.44
2. ONE OF THESE DAYS 3.53
3. LISA SAYS 2.55
4. I'M STICKING WITH YOU 2.26
5. OCEAN 5.12
6. I CAN'T STAND IT 3.23
7. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN 6.32
8. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER 2.57
9. ROCK AND ROLL 5.15
10. RIDE INTO THE SUN 3.26
11. SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND
12. FERRYBOAT BILL 2.15
13. ANDY'S CHEST 2.52
14. CONEY ISLAND STEEPLECHASE

CD5: "Live at the Matrix Part One"
1 I’M WAITING FOR THE MAN (5.31)
2 WHAT GOES ON (4.34)
3 SOME KINDA LOVE (4.12)
4 OVER YOU (3.07)
5 WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER (3.26)
6 BEGINNING TO SEE THE LIGHT (5.42)
7 LISA SAYS (6.05)
8 ROCK AND ROLL (6.58)
9 PALE BLUE EYES (6.08)
10 I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE (6.54)
11 VENUS IN FURS (5.19)
12 THERE SHE GOES AGAIN (3.08)

CD6: "Live at the Matrix Part Two"

1 SISTER RAY (36.46)
2 HEROIN (8.18)
3 WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT (8.45)
4 I’M SET FREE (4.48)
5 AFTER HOURS (2.56)
6 SWEET JANE (4.20)

Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

"Foggy Notion" better include that six-note dealie at the beginning.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Bill Levenson on the Steve Hoffman forums sez:

I saw your post today, and thought I'd comment.

The track listing you posted is incorrect. What you posted is an old work-in-progress list of mine, which has been updated. Disc 4 has been totally reworked to feature either original 1969 mixes, or new 2014 mixes that strip away the 1980s technology of the VU/Another View albums. We spent a lot of time working on Disc 4, and we're very happy with the way it turned out!

I hope this list doesn't mislead a lot of SH forum members and fans!

Regards,

Bill

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

Dammit, I liked the 80s mixes!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

xp

it doesn't, those bastards:

http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-VU/release/1504773

note track time of 6:58

unless that's a mistake as well

for more insane detail see:

http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-velvet-underground-iv.html

sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

OMG this is the one I will pay cashes moneys for. Bring it on.

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

MATRIX RECORDINGS Y'ALL

sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for those links, sleeve! Guess I'll hold on even tighter to my vinyl VU.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

so psyched for the matrix stuff. the other stuff doesn't seem tooooo exciting, though i'm sure it'll be nice (was kind of hoping for some random unreleased studio recordings).
in other VU trainspotting news: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/eat-to-the-beat-tickets-13180177265
Chefs Paul Kahan of Nico Osteria, Blackbird, and the Publican, and Matthias Merges of Yusho, Billy Sunday and A10 present a spectacular multi-course dinner inspired by the groundbreaking 1967 album The Velvet Underground & Nico - with special guest Velvet Underground founder John Cale.

tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

i had missed this & oh wow at the matrix show comin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsB25ReZp4c

schlump, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

yessss - here's the whole sampler: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/04/24/the-velvet-underground-the-matrix-sampler/

tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

Well, the "1969" LP from the box set (hey, I managed to get one out of a box) has the Foggy intro.

So, you never know.

Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

What? John Cale will make an irl appearance at VU themed events?!?

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

catered

Trip Maker, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

in chicago! someone from ILM has to go.

tylerw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

Paging La Lechera.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

I can cater! Egg white light/white hot omelettes in the morning, Some Kind of Steak at night...

This makes me wanna cry tbh

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link


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