TS: Godfather vs Godfather II

wilford brimley is only 79 years old, but he's looked 60+ since 'the thing'.

yeah I didn't realize he was playing so much older

it was always weird to see such an ornery 26 year old shilling for quaker oats.

because the Don was the personification of evil

this is weird, i never felt like the godfather movies ever portrayed the don as the personification of evil! pacino certainly esp. in part ii but vito was always potrayed in a heroic fashion

yeah, i thought that was the most interesting quote. i prefer whatever movie Gordon Willis saw. altho he seems to be referring only to the scenes in which he's shadowed and distant.

(maybe the moment most suggestive of this is the dissolve (yes?) from Jack Woltz's screams echoing around his estate to Vito in repose)

Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CX20bBNJE

well, except his eyes appear to be lit if closed there?

anyone see the 'new' HBO 7 hour doohickey? seems to be just The Saga (the VHS set from the late 80s) again, only in HD and widescreen.

Really??! Oh man I want to see it then. VHS thing from the 80s (which was originally shown on TV in the late 70s) is my favorite version of I/II.

Wow.

"The Godfather Epic is the TV version of Francis Ford Coppola’s famous gangster movie saga, in which The Godfather and The Godfather Part II are cut together chronologically with additional footage left out of the films. It aired on NBC in 1977 and was later released (in shortened version) on video in 1981. The result is a jumping-off point for debates about the differences between film and television, and even streaming content. Or, you know, you could just hang out with Al Pacino for a while."

i think thematically something is lost by Vito '20s and Michael '59 not being contiguous. or do people judge that tactic to be some kind of failure?

(i saw it Saga-style on network TV)

I judge it to be a failure simply because I judge the Michael section of II to be a failure. In the context of the extended epic, it's flaws are somewhat minimized.

interesting... i spose i would agree as far as "he's lost his soul" was already the ending of I. But I think most of the supporting characters (Fredo in particular) are more fleshed out and human than in the first. Plus you have Strasberg, Gazzo etc.

(also as i don't much like Brando's performance his absence doesn't bother me)

i enjoyed watching it in the saga format.

i like the saga format because (slightly) more Godfather but it's lesser than the 2 movies precisely because of losing the chronological juxtapositions

I watched the first half of III the other day. Not sure if I'll finish it. I'd heard how bad Sophia Coppola is, but I don't think she's much worse than everyone else. Everyone looks lost or indifferent.

certainly not worse than eli wallach

that said i didnt hate it in '90

seeing The Epic on VHS (it came in a leather-y box!) back in 89/90 was most jarring to those of us in the UK who'd only ever seen the TV versions. loads of great extra scenes sure but also much more violence in the bits we thought we knew already. back in '73 the BBFC had insisted on cuts to the toll booth sequence for example (the kick to the head etc) so The Epic was even more gory than it had been in Theaters.

I always thought she's possibly the best reason to see the film--a couple of really bad line readings, otherwise she's pretty good. Garcia and Mantegna are flashy and forgettable. Pacino, ugh.

i always quite liked III, although no Duvall sucks.

Pacino is basically just as good as he was in the first two. I'd rather he'd have won his Oscar for III than the shouty blind vet movie.

I didn't hate III but I haven't seen it since I was 15

I do remember the audience at the cinema laughing when Pacino falls off his chair

my friend calls that 'Arte Johnson from Laugh-In'

So I spent, y'know, the entire day watching the HBO epic. Hypnotic, and maybe my favorite viewing (having seen the first two films probably four or five times before). I think the chronological restructuring may have led to me catching lots of little things I never noticed before. And the 'new' scenes were welcome additions (in much the same way that I thought the Redux scenes added to richness of the tapestry of Apocalypse Now). Recommended way to chuck a day away!

I don't know how I'd completely failed to previously notice that Harry Dean Stanton is in part 2.

Did you catch Danny Aiello?

No! Goddamnit, now I need to watch it again.

I didn't know who Danny Aiello was the first few times I saw the film (no one did), but after Moonstruck, I probably watched it another half-dozen times before picking him out. (It's a speaking part and a memorable line.)

i have new fav moments in OG Godfather each time I watch. lately it's watching Willie Cicci chillin, gettin a shave, right before plugging Cuneo. and Clemenza sayin "oh Pauly...you ain't gonna see him no more"

also never realized that actor was the main character in Maniac o_O

The more time goes by, the more I'm convinced that the first film is the only good one. Part II has its moments, but it is hugely overrated.

weirdly I had the opposite trajectory, considering it overrated for a while and now loving it almost as much

video at first link

https://thefilmstage.com/news/watch-francis-ford-coppola-and-the-godfather-cast-reunite-in-80-minute-tribeca-panel/

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/04/the-godfather-tribeca-reunion

wow I started a thread on ILE

The number of people who side with Michael over Kay during Part II's abortion fight astounds me.

Well, by people, I mean YouTube commenters, so I guess I withdraw the observation.

Probably just real good Catholics.

I remember reading Rex Reed's Godfather II review in the NY Daily News when it came out (I had just seen the first on TV). He singled out that scene for praise, and it now seems to me the clunkiest scene in the film.

So, Rex Reed, off the mark for half a century.

OVA!

when AMC showed the chronological Saga in 2012, there were credits sequences for each 'episode' that featured footage not seen for decades on tv, dvd or anywhere. some of it from footage from the jettisoned final hour-or-so of GFII which was set in the 60s; Micheal walking in the woods with a teenage Anthony, having dinner with Connie etc. tiny bits of footage which of course i'm sure 99.9% of people couldn't give a toss about but it was all news to me.

https://christopherpierznik.com/2016/04/18/some-of-my-favorite-deleted-scenes-from-the-godfather-films/

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/47rX31mjEVo/hqdefault.jpg

I spent a day watching that thing when it dropped on HBO. As with Apocalypse's Redux, I'm apparently cool with Coppola plugging as much extra footage into his classics as he sees fit. It's a shame that it might not ever see a home video release.

that was fredo?! in the boat? he didn't have a tache! plus he disowned him about 30mins prev. I don't get it.
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still the most baffling post ITT

False fred

"I killed my mother's son after he shaved" - Godfather III

this was put together by a friend of ours who teaches at Berkeley, with the heavy lifting done by undergrad students. Dozens of different aspects of the film covered in a publication workshop.

http://theseventies.berkeley.edu/godfather/

fab! thanks

In 2006, EA released "The Godfather" for PS2, Xbox and PC. (See The Godfather )

Most everyone, including Brando, allowed their likenesses to be used in the game except for one major character. Can you figure out who wouldn't sign the release?

https://i.imgur.com/VlI7o0F.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cI1r4fw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hwbn2r6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ntw5sJu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/a0EcMEk.jpg

^LOL

Still trying to guess? Here's another shot of Michael.

https://i.imgur.com/YopnmXS.jpg

Whoever it was, I heard he was being tough on the negotiations.

es un teléfono de oro macizo