Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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i should post pictures to facebook sometime

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

embarass all my hs friends. anyway, back to more important things

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

i never knew you could attend more than prom!

oh yeah, of course you can; the school may limit their automatic invite list to a particular class (mine was juniors/seniors) but anyone is allowed in as a date

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

I went to both junior and senior prom

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Me too.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

A friend pointed out that the new youtube ad campaign is all about women doing makeup and baking cupcakes

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

lol true

Nhex, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah they're pretty despicable. "be you! choose: baking, shopping, or makeup."

ryan, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

I just find it incredible that this sort of Medieval level approach of gender (the sin is in the woman, it's her fault if we're drooling over her) still exists!

kinda h8 u for not having to grow up in the repressed, evil, damaging environment that i did

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

(i actually <3 u but i am incredibly envious)

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

It's very frustrating, especially as the father of a daughter, that in an era where women get the majority of college and graduate degrees (or something close to that), this is still what gets pushed on them (the youtube ads).

Also toddler girls' clothing is pinker than ever with as many hearts, birds and flowers crammed onto it as possible, while boys' clothing is full of trucks, spaceships and monsters.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

For reference:

http://www.tubefilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/subway-ads-youtube-bethany.jpg

TBF, one of the six is at least gender-neutral I guess? (fighting bullies or w/e). At first I was like "oh, one of them has a superhero uniform" and then I realized that one is also about cupcakes.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

And even the bully one is "with style" and the confidence one makes reference to "accessories" and involves making a heart with her hands.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

my niece had her Senior Ball this weekend. She got sent home for 'excessive cleavage'. as far as I could see from the group photos her cleavage was no worse than other girls, it's just she has a bigger chest than anyone her age.

i don't think schools really think about better ways to handle this kind of stuff. especially waiting for her to arrive at the ball with all of her friends and then have her get sent home like some pariah on what is supposed to be a lovely night

I get sending kids home for being drunk or high but ... idk

the puritanism of it is really fucked up

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

completely fucked up

marcos, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's downright sick imo. where is that?

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

So fucked up! Did they just frog-march her or was there a 'discussion'?

baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

I read this thread from the bottom up and thought the last three were about Jill Abramson.

That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

idk exactly how it went down. I haven't talked to her in person to find out what happened...didn't want to press her for details at the time since I figured she'd be pretty upset and embarrassed.

this was in one of Sac's northern suburbs. Known for being kinda conservative but still. I never knew they would take it that far.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 May 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

lol @ eazy

balls, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

that totally fucking sucks, VG. what a stupid awful humiliating thing to do to a teenage girl at her prom :/

just1n3, Thursday, 15 May 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

I would be so pissed off if that was my kid.

how's life, Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

Srsly I would be chewing the head off of the principal right now

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

how horrible for your poor niece, vg. it seemed completely absurd and anachronistic when the elderly nuns at my school carried on like this and that was years ago, and they were elderly nuns. (nuns who said among many other things that girls have always to set the sexual standards because boys cannot control themselves in the slightest, and you can only get raped if you allow your muscles to relax sufficiently to enable penetration at which point you are sinning because you obviously must want it to happen otherwise you'd stay chastely clamped up and god is vigilantly monitoring your muscles so even if you claim to be a victim you won't get away with it in the long run.)

estela, Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

jfc

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

rage

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 16 May 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

Maria Goretti (October 16, 1890 – July 6, 1902) is an Italian virgin-martyr of the Roman Catholic Church, and she is one of the youngest canonized saints.[1] She was born on the eastern side of Italy to a farming family, but increased poverty forced the family to move to the western side of the country when she was only six. Her father died when she was nine, and the family had to share a house with another family, the Serenellis. Maria took over household duties from her mother, while her mother and the rest of her family worked in the fields. One afternoon, Alessandro, the son of the Serenelli family, made sexual advances to her, but when she refused to submit to him because that would be a mortal sin, he stabbed her multiple times. She was taken to hospital, but died after forgiving him. He was promptly arrested, convicted and jailed. After three years he repented, and when eventually released from prison, he visited her mother begging forgiveness, which she readily granted. He later became a lay brother in a monastery, eventually dying peacefully in 1970. Maria was beatified in 1947, and canonized in 1950. Her mother attended both ceremonies.

^ praised and held up as a role model for 'resisting temptation' wtf and sacrificing her life to preserve her 'purity'. i don't think anyone fell for it though.

not all of the nuns were so extreme but so what. and all this 2014 prom dress bullshit is just another point on the same piece of string.

estela, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link

Are there any male saints who forgave women for violence done to them? Ungh.

a strange man (mh), Friday, 16 May 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link

ianac, but i went to catholic girls school pre-k-7th gr, and it wasn't until i went to school with boys in 8th gr that i felt the full sting of all sexist eyes-on-u in the way being described here. it was a huge shock. at my school, there was really no talk of boys at all. it was like girls were the only people who existed. i kinda felt like that tbh. i had no brothers or friends with brothers. i knew no neighborhood boys. i didn't realize the gravity of this huge worldview shift for a long time, but i know for sure now that the shift to going to school with boys and the constant eyes on bodies at all times was not insignificant. if i had always been around it, i might not have found it so shocking, but it was new to me. it was a lot to take in at once.

i'm really proud of this girl for speaking up for herself. the behavior of the school/parents/adults in this situation sucks, but she's doing the right thing by talking about it. so at least things have changed in that regard.

funch dressing (La Lechera), Friday, 16 May 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

Purity's worth dyin' for!

http://www.catholictothemax.com/product_images/p/763/Goretti-hoodie__69844_zoom.jpg

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

i had no brothers or friends with brothers. i knew no neighborhood boys. i didn't realize the gravity of this huge worldview shift for a long time, but i know for sure now that the shift to going to school with boys and the constant eyes on bodies at all times was not insignificant. if i had always been around it, i might not have found it so shocking, but it was new to me. it was a lot to take in at once.

LL, believe it or not this has been running through my mind a lot in the past few days, like it really made me *get* something about ogling, the male gaze, etc. that I didn't completely internalize before

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 May 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

omg tokyo rosemary, at first i didn't think that could possibly be a real thing, it's outrageous.

estela, Saturday, 24 May 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

Already posted an earlier story about this on the Mad Men thread, but alas, the plot thickens...

http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/neko-case-playboy-tweet/

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link

(nuns who said among many other things that girls have always to set the sexual standards because boys cannot control themselves in the slightest, and you can only get raped if you allow your muscles to relax sufficiently to enable penetration at which point you are sinning because you obviously must want it to happen otherwise you'd stay chastely clamped up and god is vigilantly monitoring your muscles so even if you claim to be a victim you won't get away with it in the long run.)

And while “forcible rape” isn’t defined in the criminal code, the addition of the adjective seems certain to exclude acts of rape that don’t involve overt violence—say, cases where a woman is drugged or has a limited mental capacity. “It’s basically putting more restrictions on what was defined historically as rape,” says Keenan.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/19/712251/how-todd-akin-and-paul-ryan-partnered-to-redefine-rape/

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 25 May 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, to be clear those two paras are completely distinct from each other, I should have used quote boxes.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 25 May 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I had a housemate once who was really into these radio jocks called Opie and Anthony who had some thing apparently called "Whip Em Out Wednesdays" ("WOW"). People would put the WOW stickers on their cars and shit. He was a guy who literally bragged about his own girlfriend's "great tits." Once he took her to see Opie and Anthony live and came back beaming with pride that they had somehow spotlighted his gf and pressured her into whippin' 'em out. She left him, not long after that incident, perhaps coincidentally.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 May 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

*put the stickers on their cars, I should add, with the fantasy that female passers/drivers-by would see the sticker and oblige its command (on Wednesdays). It's hard to come up with a more grotesque image of perceived male privilege than that -- "I, trollish man, by virtue of putting this sticker on my car, am entitled to have women I don't know flash me one day per week. The world is my skinemax, every Wednesday."

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 May 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

I was riding my bike through downtown Boise on Mardi Gras once...this guy was trying to convince a woman to flash him for some beads. She reached up into her bra like she was going to flash him, and pulled out pepper spray and sprayed him in the face. Everyone in the balcony bar above clapped and cheered. It was awesome.

just like the one wing dove (Crabbits), Thursday, 29 May 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

I didn't know about the Opie and Anthony thing. ugh. Doug Bensons has a sideboob sunday hashtag on twitter, girls tweet him pics of their sideboob, it's super gross.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 May 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link

I was riding my bike through downtown Boise on Mardi Gras once...this guy was trying to convince a woman to flash him for some beads. She reached up into her bra like she was going to flash him, and pulled out pepper spray and sprayed him in the face. Everyone in the balcony bar above clapped and cheered. It was awesome.

― just like the one wing dove (Crabbits), Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:00 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg this is the best

gbx, Thursday, 29 May 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

*homage bow*

baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 29 May 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

so great

I fink U freakfolk & I like U a Larkin (sleeve), Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/inG4YIN.png

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

what the hell xp

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

i like the faces in that pic. "well, it's true! *shrug*"

Nhex, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

good piece of evidence for the "they are spewing hateful poison" hypothesis

La Lechera, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link


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