SPRING BREAKERS (2013) GUCCI MANE, SELENA GOMEZ & JAMES FRANCO (as Riff Raff?) DIR. BY HARMONY KORINE

so-called 'depth' of the message some purport it to have

I don't think this film has a "message". It's not a cautionary tale. It's so wildly unrealistic idk how anyone could come away with that.

xxp

Maybe the message is if you look a certain way you can get away w murder?

are you saying that perhaps Vice media consumers are also an audience? you don't say!

Korine does Vice's purported (original) aesthetic better than they do for sure

everything transcends hermeneutics if you take your hermeneutic shades off

afaict shakey mo called it an incongruous thing for Hollywood to bankroll and is otm, not like it is even that rare for it to happen but rare enough. xxxp yeah if anything it is surprisingly humane in its imagination. adam bruneau you sound like the nu christian preacher in the movie!!

lol this made enough money to get a sequel financed?!

― stadow shevens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 7, 2014 5:49 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

made its budget back six times over

I think dude has some social aspects he wants to convey but his love is trash

I don't entirely disagree w this. He does love trash, he probably would film a plastic bag swirling in the wind for 20 minutes lol. But his presentation and visual style feel like they owe more to 80s VHS artists and malick and herzog or, I dunno, Killer of Sheep and shit like that. His film vocabulary is not mainstream.

xp

made its budget back six times over

that is awesome. I like it when weirdos get paid!

"hollywood" doesn't bankroll anything

OK fine multinational megacorporation

what is wrong with everybody. who cares if the film is 'challenging' like that's some mark of honor or 'artsy'. if you want to transcend something transcend your tired discourse gramps.

it was a movie about feeling free, and at peace.

it spoke to people

he probably would film a plastic bag swirling in the wind for 20 minutes lol

that's for Mendes. Korine would film a human-sized plastic bag in which James Franco is trapped, Phantom Zone style, singing Britney's "I Wanna Go."

movie made me laugh & i left in a great mood what more do you need

sprang break forevah

foreeeevveeeerrrrrrrrr

Ok i looked up the people that funded the movie...

Hanley started his career in the music business as the founder of Intergalactic Music, Inc., a company that supplied vintage Fender and Gibson guitars to musicians such as John McLaughlin, Heart, and John Entwistle of The Who. In the early 1980s, Intergalactic opened a recording studio in New York City, and recorded artists such as Africa Bambatta, Soul Sonic Force, Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam, The Ramones, and Blondie minus Debbie Harry.[1]

That is effing awesome.

that someone thought they could make a blockbuster out of anything he does AND get him to cast A-listers, especially in the current film industry climate

they didn't want to make a "blockbuster", they just wanted to turn a profit and they did. it made $32 million worldwide theatrical on a budget of $5 million (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=springbreakers.htm). probably rented/sold a lot of videos, too. how many people passed on seeing this in a theater and rented it out of ahem curiosity.

the producers knew exactly what they were doing; shakey, why would you assume some kind of "smuggling" narrative on no evidence?

narratively i think this does pose some challenges to people who have seen only mainstream H'w'd movies. s1ocki and i guess everyone except shaky OTM in this regard.

that doesn't necessarily mean it's righteous, though. lots of shitty movies that would challenge audiences as much or more.

it doesn't mean it's bullshit, either.

kind of an elegant time waster IMO. there are interesting hints of a real world in it that are worth following up but korine doesn't really care. i did appreciate the dreamlike ending.

also the short girl is pretty.

I have no idea which one the short one was but you have a 50/50 chance of being otm

all the girls were pretty.

narratively i think this does pose some challenges to people who have seen only mainstream H'w'd movies. s1ocki and i guess everyone except shaky OTM in this regard

rmde thx for not giving me any credit even tho it was me that made this point originally

ok, well i may have skimmed the thread. if that's true, i apologize.

i have no idea who you are or what your views are, so don't take it personal.

now yr just hurting my feelings

no, it's just that i scarcely pay attention to who wrote what

i don't really know who any of you are, except those here before 2004. i know morbs because he's such a stick in the mud.

i like not knowing, that way i can go into threads assuming the best of everyone until i am proven otherwise.

I've been here since 2002 bro

and we show up on the same threads all the time! but whatever

*cries*

being on ilx 10 years and only knowing who one poster's deal is is so far from my reality

*types into box*

amateurist is the guy who's been saying "i don't even know who you are" for 10 years

i know morbs because he's such a stick in the mud.

well i never

amateurist is the guy who's been saying "i don't even know who you are" for 10 years

― goole, Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right, since 2004. i guess i just don't care much to know the personalities behind the usernames or whatever. i don't mean to be rude; i was originally trying to assure shakey that i wasn't piling on him.

are we all just anonymous opinions with no connection between posts?

the lucky ones.

amen to that

are we all just anonymous opinions with no connection between posts?

― a strange man (mh), Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:15 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i first read that as a statement about human personality -- aren't we all just fluctuations of atoms and synapses with little coherence across our lives?

i guess i have a vague sense of certain posters' expertise. sanpaku seems to read russian and knows a lot about what's happening there. balls is a lawyer or paralegal or something.

anyway, feel free to pile on.

i really don't mean to offend anyone.

i feel so worthless

hahaha balls esq.

cmon dude pay attention to your own milieu

or would we need to start making idiotic faux pas during our local news broadcasts or utter solecisms within your hearing on the bus for contempt to surge up in you to make you take notice

i know that scott owns a record store. i guess all these people have been here for a long time. but often i'll leave for months or years at a time and when i come back people have new usernames and it's like starting all over again. for example i only just learned that jo3 p3rry returned as "aerosmith bootlegs i have owned" for a spell about four-five years ago. i didn't realize that was him. i honestly don't know how people can keep up with who's who; i guess they would have to invest more time/energy into it than i do or can. which is totally cool, of course.

i guess i don't think of this place as my 'milieu.' it's somewhere i go to procrastinate and sometimes express thoughts or ask questions for which i have no outlet "IRL."

sorry for derailing thread! i will shut up for a while so you guys can get back on track.

armchairist is right, human interaction is gross enough without having to bring personalities into it.

xp oh ffs, wet spill for the mods on aisle governmentname

man so you just want to pump us and dump us at your convenience

no, i like most of the people here. most of you are smart and explain things in a way i wouldn't think of. i just don't have a very strong sense of who is who.

sorry if anything i said above threatens anyone's privacy; if that's the case then mods please remove it. i tried to google-proof the name and be as vague as possible. :)

lol i thought br4d wh1tf0rd was user "J.D."

balls is a lawyer?!?

Wish I could change my username to something not my real name, but I don't think it allows you to use the same email for different accounts.

if only you could make a 2nd email account

I also wish I hadn't used my real name