Worst Thing In This Daily Telegraph "10 ways Britpop changed modern manhood" Article

Christ this is one of the most inane things I've ever read.

Voting #10. I know I never went down the pub pre-Britpop.

I'm really, really glad that I didn't click on that link now.

I'll never hear the phrase "wahey!" without cracking up laughing again.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 06:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

The trickle-down is still being felt on Radios 1 and 2, 6Music, Absolute and Xfm today.

never really thought of trickle-down as an incontinence metaphor before, but there you go

I know; this is clickbait. Nothing but clickbait because in 2014 if it’s not clickbait nobody is interested. Everything black or white, nothing in between, because that’s not a G**d St*ry. I know that these things are also supposed to wind up people like me.

But this guy has a career. This guy gets paid. This guy has the vote. This guy is allowed to help bring children into the world.

And you know what it’s like for people like me to look at this? It’s nothing to do with envy or “I should have trained as a journalist in 1980 when I was given the chance.” It’s to do with sitting in class, doing my best to pay attention and to learn and interpret what I’m being taught. Sitting up the front of the class and there are these jerks at the back who just smirk and laugh and sniff their armpits and throw paper darts and don’t give a shit about learning or what’s being taught.

And then you wake up thirty years later and somehow these people at the back have all got ahead of you and now control everything. To hell with basic spelling, grammar, syntax and argumentative logic. And the worst thing about it is that maybe it’s not even these people – it’s people who have been expensively and privately educated, who went to the right college and made the right friends, making sure that people like me will never catch up, will continue knocking themselves out trying to write something different that gets read by a couple of hundred people at best, because they know that all people want now is lists, and received opinions that confirm what they already think, and online they mainly want to gawp at shit that looks like Hitler.

It’s like the metaphorical boot of the school bully stamping on one’s face again while he sneers: “You are INFERIOR. Bend your head.” All my fucking life.

i suppose at this stage it will shock no one to learn that this guy also enjoys making racist jokes about ~ethnic names

https://twitter.com/michaelhogan/status/462148077508644864

Thanks, Lex. That's him blocked.

why the fuck he and i have FIFTY-FIVE mutual followers i have no fucking idea

yeah i am surprised by how many of my followers follow him. That is a really fucking depressing article. And pure modern hack prose.

Gender fascist, racist... can we go for the full hat trick? I'm in a bad mood but this guy is repulsive.

OH WAIT BUT IT'S ALL BANTZ, AMIRITE?

terrible article... i mean the reasons are bad enough, the premise is terrible in itself, but the writing is just bad, tossed off rubbish and offensive with it too.

I'm generally fine with clickbait listicles as long as they're interesting and informative but Marcello is absolutely right about the implicit flippant smirk being completely intolerable. That tone of 'none of us really care about this, so let's just throw some lazy joeks together' is completely infuriating.

implicit flippant smirk being completely intolerable. That tone of 'none of us really care about this, so let's just throw some lazy joeks together' is completely infuriating.

I should just stop reading hack prose like Hogan's. On a medical level, it’s not good for my blood pressure and I’m under doctor’s orders to eliminate or minimise all stress factors in my life (easier said than done, but you do what you can). All stuff like this does is annoy me and makes me go AARGH and the worst thing is that it’s kind of the point to annoy people like me. Not only is the piece deliberately stupid, but its stupidity is ladled on with relish, and that’s what really stinks about it. But yes, I just need to learn to ignore/disregard this stuff and, if I can’t, stop getting so annoyed about it.

xp fair point, should probably hand back all my paychecks I got for posting here

The ubiquitous, artfully distressed gastropubs of today owe a debt to “The Mixer”.

keep coming back to read this because it's probably the most innocuous statement in the whole thing, yet also the most astonishingly hit-the-corner-flag inaccurate

Yeah, it was always "a pub", wasn't it?

The way to spot a 'fake-punter' was if they 'complained' that they were doing "souvenir t-shirts" over the counter there (apparently, they always did).

(Never went there, although I used to go to Camden a lot)

to briefly lower discussion to his kind of level...

Apparently mine was “a proper big old man’s one”, whereas his was “patchy ginger bumfluff”. I pooh-poohed this, obviously – I’m not a complete monster – but was secretly delighted. We even exchanged tweets the following morning, comparing hangovers, and he again mentioned his “serious beard envy”.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3073159154/8fd3aa9e63f0f97538398c425ce93392.jpeg

nah.

This guy had me at "cool, exciting new stuff...Friends"

i can't stop laughing at number 8. the notion that britpop and foodie culture are somehow connected through that well-known britpop pinup, jamie oliver, is one of the craziest things i've read in ages

TBF Jamie Oliver was the Britpop chef.

seeing his wretched little pubic trimmings stuck to his giant shiny penis head like that makes me think he had a point with the beard/penis comparison, even if it only applied to him.

"Why black-frame glasses are the new Porsche"

I used to go to Camden a lot

This is where I get all misty-eyed and rhapsodise about the Good Old Days of Rhythm Records, Compendium Books, Rock On and MVE. And Marine Ices before it was sold and lost every single factor that made me want to go and eat there. Even that Goth place near the Lock that sold CDs in the basement. Love’s Secret Domain by Coil for a fiver? That’s where you went.

Now I can’t think of a single reason to go there. Out On The Floor? Not what it was. Charity shops? More hit and miss than they used to be.

The reasons I go there is that the kids love it there. And, yeah, it's nice etc..

(And I do remember all the things you mention there, apart from Marine ices, guess I missed out there)

there there there etc.

let's have it! mad fer it! parklife!! etc.

look at this badboy! wallop!! pukka! etc/

From Three Lions to the Gallaghers' Man City shirts, the beautiful game became linked with the music scene for the first time since George Best.

This is complete bollocks isn't it? Chas'n'Dave & Spurs, Rod Stewart & Celtic, Elton John & Watford etc

http://www.boom973.com/Pics/elton%20rod%20soccer.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llt7rxI5ME1qexscuo1_400.jpg

Mark E Smith is a big football fan too right?

he's mad fer it! parklife! etc.

maybe he just meant 'since George Best by the Wedding Present'

even then, 'World In Motion' was from 1990 right?

Remember 'Luv'd Up' being a phrase.

the thing i love is that the whole article's point is basically "Britpop made it okay for young white men to act like drunk assholes and like sports!"

like wooow yeah that's so novel

Are there any complete sentences that actually are true?

pukka!

wallop!

etc.

There wasn’t just a Britpop band called Menswe@r (doesn’t that “@“ date them?):

It was short for Menswe@britpop.com

http://www.regista-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Robert-Plant-wolves.jpg

All of you mithering about a transparently and incontrovertibly moronic listicle aren't contributing constructively to any discourse, merely indulging in ILX's favourite sport

Actions, not words. Egg Hogan's house. Protest outside The Telegraph's offices. Publicly burn copies of Parklife. Of course, none of this shall be done, so it is as though we are yelling into a preposterous void through which Hogan's paycheck flutters unconcernedly

The other option would be to mercilessly spam his Twitter feed. You all seem to have the time. To it, soldiers.

smh i BEEN yelling at him and his racist mate john niven on twitter already

you are an honourable exception :D

none of this shall be done, so it is as though we are yelling into a preposterous void through which Hogan's paycheck flutters unconcernedly

― imago, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:57 (20 minutes ago)

this is as it should be

its a cold world out there and people do worse things than michael hogan in order to feed their children in n16

though gotta say im intrigued about whether he /does/ get paid

he liveblogs about the most worthless of tv shit in the telegraph, he writes the odd article for its website (this got 7 comments last time i checked), his twitter and cursorily checked internet presence don't suggest he does a whole lot

is this a viable program for a sustained existence? idk, maybe the barclay brothers routintely write blank cheques to anyone who can come up with shit like

Michael Hogan @michaelhogan

Weirdly, Tamiflu Stockpile is my porn name

sixteen retweets.....this along with his lavatorial sensibility and paeans to the merits of class a drugs don't even suggest he is a neat fit for telegraph media group

what is he even doing?

Torygraph: what are the main avatars of britpop according to an expert on shit reality tv
Hogan: nose, Best

(ilxor: nooooo, &c)