Worst Thing In This Daily Telegraph "10 ways Britpop changed modern manhood" Article

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan Apr 30

Long bad Wednesday :( #RIPBobHoskins

that article has a lot of meme which must be kept alive IMO

“wahey, boobz and bantz!” kind of laddishess.

what is wahey and bantz?

Britpop is often stereotyped as lumpenly thuggish but it made young men smarter too. We were inspired to explore its musical influences: not just the Beatles but The Who, The Kinks, Bowie, The Byrds, The Jam, Sex Pistols and Small Faces.

the 'not just' here is probably the best bit of the whole thing

LOL yeah digging deep there.

Sex Pistols were a side project of the bass player for Rich Kids iirc

7. It made boys be boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukA8ocBJu2M

This article was one of the worst I've read. Cant believe someone got paid for writing it.

And I don't know WHY it even got written. If it had been a lads mag or something I'd understand, but the torygraph?

I don’t mean that tedious “wahey, boobz and bantz!” kind of laddishess oh wait that's exactly what I mean never mind.

It's just a bit of bantz.

i'm actually in a state of shock this is so terrible

the same author wrote an execrable "why beards are the new penises" piece in shortlist yesterday. gotta be a contender for worst writer in britain right now

really, what is "wahey"?

It's a kind of all-purpose rousing cheer, roughly equivalent to "Here we go!"

It's a Chris Evans thing, I think.

"Wahey" is way, way older than Chris Evans. We were reading it in the Beano back in the 70s.

the same author wrote an execrable "why beards are the new penises" piece in shortlist yesterday. gotta be a contender for worst writer in britain right now

― lex pretend,

wait a min, what??? Link please?

same guy wrote this: http://www.shortlist.com/grooming/why-beards-are-the-new-penises

:(((((((

xp

It's a kind of all-purpose rousing cheer, roughly equivalent to "Here we go!"

it has overtones of leering crepeyness in an on the buses way too though

really, what is "wahey"?

Man flashes Queen, shouts "wahey!"

Facial foliage isn’t the sole preserve of hipsters any more. The beard revival might have started in Brooklyn and east London – where social-media strategists, web designers, barmen and baristas like to pretend they’re alt-folk musicians or artisan lumberjacks, teaming a well-groomed beard with tweed, tattoos and a fixie – but now beards are mainstream. Beards have gone commercial. They’re playing arenas and doing dodgy ads.

Everyone’s got one. Even some of the women.

Christ this is one of the most inane things I've ever read.

Voting #10. I know I never went down the pub pre-Britpop.

I'm really, really glad that I didn't click on that link now.

I'll never hear the phrase "wahey!" without cracking up laughing again.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 06:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

The trickle-down is still being felt on Radios 1 and 2, 6Music, Absolute and Xfm today.

never really thought of trickle-down as an incontinence metaphor before, but there you go

I know; this is clickbait. Nothing but clickbait because in 2014 if it’s not clickbait nobody is interested. Everything black or white, nothing in between, because that’s not a G**d St*ry. I know that these things are also supposed to wind up people like me.

But this guy has a career. This guy gets paid. This guy has the vote. This guy is allowed to help bring children into the world.

And you know what it’s like for people like me to look at this? It’s nothing to do with envy or “I should have trained as a journalist in 1980 when I was given the chance.” It’s to do with sitting in class, doing my best to pay attention and to learn and interpret what I’m being taught. Sitting up the front of the class and there are these jerks at the back who just smirk and laugh and sniff their armpits and throw paper darts and don’t give a shit about learning or what’s being taught.

And then you wake up thirty years later and somehow these people at the back have all got ahead of you and now control everything. To hell with basic spelling, grammar, syntax and argumentative logic. And the worst thing about it is that maybe it’s not even these people – it’s people who have been expensively and privately educated, who went to the right college and made the right friends, making sure that people like me will never catch up, will continue knocking themselves out trying to write something different that gets read by a couple of hundred people at best, because they know that all people want now is lists, and received opinions that confirm what they already think, and online they mainly want to gawp at shit that looks like Hitler.

It’s like the metaphorical boot of the school bully stamping on one’s face again while he sneers: “You are INFERIOR. Bend your head.” All my fucking life.

i suppose at this stage it will shock no one to learn that this guy also enjoys making racist jokes about ~ethnic names

https://twitter.com/michaelhogan/status/462148077508644864

Thanks, Lex. That's him blocked.

why the fuck he and i have FIFTY-FIVE mutual followers i have no fucking idea

yeah i am surprised by how many of my followers follow him. That is a really fucking depressing article. And pure modern hack prose.

Gender fascist, racist... can we go for the full hat trick? I'm in a bad mood but this guy is repulsive.

OH WAIT BUT IT'S ALL BANTZ, AMIRITE?

terrible article... i mean the reasons are bad enough, the premise is terrible in itself, but the writing is just bad, tossed off rubbish and offensive with it too.

I'm generally fine with clickbait listicles as long as they're interesting and informative but Marcello is absolutely right about the implicit flippant smirk being completely intolerable. That tone of 'none of us really care about this, so let's just throw some lazy joeks together' is completely infuriating.

implicit flippant smirk being completely intolerable. That tone of 'none of us really care about this, so let's just throw some lazy joeks together' is completely infuriating.

I should just stop reading hack prose like Hogan's. On a medical level, it’s not good for my blood pressure and I’m under doctor’s orders to eliminate or minimise all stress factors in my life (easier said than done, but you do what you can). All stuff like this does is annoy me and makes me go AARGH and the worst thing is that it’s kind of the point to annoy people like me. Not only is the piece deliberately stupid, but its stupidity is ladled on with relish, and that’s what really stinks about it. But yes, I just need to learn to ignore/disregard this stuff and, if I can’t, stop getting so annoyed about it.

xp fair point, should probably hand back all my paychecks I got for posting here

The ubiquitous, artfully distressed gastropubs of today owe a debt to “The Mixer”.

keep coming back to read this because it's probably the most innocuous statement in the whole thing, yet also the most astonishingly hit-the-corner-flag inaccurate

Yeah, it was always "a pub", wasn't it?

The way to spot a 'fake-punter' was if they 'complained' that they were doing "souvenir t-shirts" over the counter there (apparently, they always did).

(Never went there, although I used to go to Camden a lot)

to briefly lower discussion to his kind of level...

Apparently mine was “a proper big old man’s one”, whereas his was “patchy ginger bumfluff”. I pooh-poohed this, obviously – I’m not a complete monster – but was secretly delighted. We even exchanged tweets the following morning, comparing hangovers, and he again mentioned his “serious beard envy”.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3073159154/8fd3aa9e63f0f97538398c425ce93392.jpeg

nah.

This guy had me at "cool, exciting new stuff...Friends"

i can't stop laughing at number 8. the notion that britpop and foodie culture are somehow connected through that well-known britpop pinup, jamie oliver, is one of the craziest things i've read in ages

TBF Jamie Oliver was the Britpop chef.

seeing his wretched little pubic trimmings stuck to his giant shiny penis head like that makes me think he had a point with the beard/penis comparison, even if it only applied to him.

"Why black-frame glasses are the new Porsche"

I used to go to Camden a lot

This is where I get all misty-eyed and rhapsodise about the Good Old Days of Rhythm Records, Compendium Books, Rock On and MVE. And Marine Ices before it was sold and lost every single factor that made me want to go and eat there. Even that Goth place near the Lock that sold CDs in the basement. Love’s Secret Domain by Coil for a fiver? That’s where you went.

Now I can’t think of a single reason to go there. Out On The Floor? Not what it was. Charity shops? More hit and miss than they used to be.

The reasons I go there is that the kids love it there. And, yeah, it's nice etc..

(And I do remember all the things you mention there, apart from Marine ices, guess I missed out there)

there there there etc.

let's have it! mad fer it! parklife!! etc.

pretending to hate the bants = classic m8

Gertcha!

Fackin love Chas n Dave, fackin legends

i literally have no idea what the fuck you ppl are talking about

and

i'm mad fer it tbh

i'm listening to sleaford mods now and i love it but i understand less than 50 percent of what this tosser is on about

Cool it mat, we're only havin a laugh mate. It's just a laugh mate.

Sleaford Mods are kind of the antithesis of this crap.

yes

Earl Brutus, the ghosts at the Britpop feast

Sleaford Mods are kind of the antithesis of this crap.

― Matt DC, Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i know! they rule!

just they drop a lot of references and slang i don't know.

is not understanding references and slang such a big deal for you? when i hear US slang in rap songs i get over it or perhaps learn something, rather than going OH LOL AMERICANS ARE SO WACKY AND WEIRD

no. it's not actually, lex, and i resent your use of "LOL" and all caps.

I don't understand most lyrics tbf

fair dinkum

American tech, Italian food, and Scandi design

Could be anyone in the world yes?

dog latin appears to be auditioning for Republica on this thread

he seems to be ready to go!

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan 39m

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― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:45 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

trump is such a twatting prannet!

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan 2h2 hours ago

Bought my usual Geordie comedy monthly but it's full of rent boys, coke and poppers. Turns out I picked up Vaz Comic by mistake

more like Shitpop

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