Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

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Okay, Jimmy wasn't quite as animated as I remembered...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzjt-lEZ8uY

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

Perhaps appropriate story I heard once, 100% true. A friend was supposed to interview Neil Young, flew out to LA and everything. Then, at the last minute, the interview was cancelled because Neil hurt his back. Days later the interview is re-scheduled as a phoner, and my friend asks "Hey Neil, how's your back doing?" "Oh," replied Neil with a laugh. "Is that what they told you?"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

Back then the Crowes/Page tour appeared to me as the epitome of desperate hackery. Well, maybe not as bad as Coverdale/Page, but still bad. Me, now? I would see the hell out of that show. Crowes/Page. Not Coverdale.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

timely revive! i just got word from the powers that be @ work that we're getting Robert Plant here as part of Nonesuch Records' 50th anniversary festival! i saw Page and Plant yearrs back at Jones Beach but this is still pretty cool.

surm, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link

I love the sequencing on the first box set (1991?) It's back and forth, but generally forward.

Disc 1
1 Whole Lotta Love (5:34)
2 Heartbreaker (4:14)
3 Communication Breakdown (2:28)
4 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (6:40)
5 What Is and What Should Never Be (4:43)
6 Thank You (4:46)
7 I Can't Quit You Baby (4:15)
8 Dazed and Confused (6:26)
9 Your Time Is Gonna Come (4:14)
10 Ramble On (4:23)
11 Travelling Riverside Blues (5:09)
12 Friends (3:54)
13 Celebration Day (3:28)
14 Hey Hey What Can I Do (3:55)
15 White Summer/Black Mountain Side (8:01)
Disc 2
1 Black Dog (4:55)
2 Over the Hills and Far Away (4:46)
3 Immigrant Song (2:23)
4 The Battle of Evermore (5:51)
5 Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (4:17)
6 Tangerine (2:57)
7 Going to California (3:32)
8 Since I've Been Loving You (7:23)
9 D'Yer Mak'er (4:23)
10 Gallows Pole (4:58)
11 Custard Pie (4:13)
12 Misty Mountain Hop (4:38)
13 Rock and Roll (3:41)
14 The Rain Song (7:39)
15 Stairway to Heaven (8:01)
Disc 3
1 Kashmir (8:32)
2 Trampled Under Foot (5:35)
3 For Your Life (6:20)
4 No Quarter (7:01)
5 Dancing Days (3:42)
6 When the Levee Breaks (7:07)
7 Achilles Last Stand (10:23)
8 The Song Remains the Same (5:28)
9 Ten Years Gone (6:32)
10 In My Time of Dying (11:04)
Disc 4
1 In the Evening (6:50)
2 Candy Store Rock (4:07)
3 The Ocean (4:30)
4 Ozone Baby (3:35)
5 Houses of the Holy (4:03)
6 Wearing and Tearing (5:29)
7 Poor Tom (3:02)
8 Nobody's Fault But Mine (6:27)
9 Fool in the Rain (6:13)
10 In the Light (8:45)
11 The Wanton Song (4:06)
12 Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux (3:50)
13 I'm Gonna Crawl (5:31)
14 All My Love (5:51)

calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link

I think marking Stairway as as the end of one phase of the band and Kashmir as the beginning of the next is somehow spot on

calstars, Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:46 (ten years ago) link

For a long time this was the only zep I had. Disc 3 rules, and definitely has been most played disc of the set. When I finally got a copy of Physical Graffiti I couldn't believe it didn't open with Kashmir & close with Time of Dying.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 3 May 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link

josh, page/crowes at tinley park was awesome

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reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 3 May 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

I think of the box set like this:

Disc 1 = raw, hard rocking early stuff
Disc 2 = bunch of moody acoustic stuff
Disc 3 = proggy epics
Disc 4 = weirdo late period tracks

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Saturday, 3 May 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link

proggy epics are pretty much my thing, so yes.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 3 May 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Back then the Crowes/Page tour appeared to me as the epitome of desperate hackery. Well, maybe not as bad as Coverdale/Page, but still bad. Me, now? I would see the hell out of that show. Crowes/Page. Not Coverdale.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 1, 2014 4:43 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Why not. Coverdales done some great shit. Don't let late 80s whitesnake ruin it for you. If you've never heard Burn or Come Taste The Band you should go back and educate yourself. Better than what Zeppelin were doing at the time

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Sunday, 4 May 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link

magill have you heard coverdale/page?

balls, Sunday, 4 May 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link

"someone did some great stuff in the 70s, ergo they will be doing some great stuff in 1993" is a dangerous way to live imo

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Sunday, 4 May 2014 07:26 (ten years ago) link

I like 80s Whitesnake

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 May 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link

There you go again on your own.

But seriously, I like a lot of 80s Whitesnake, too, at least until the dire Slip of the Tongue.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link

Slide it In is great

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link

whitesnake ruled, s/t is near the peak of slick '80s commercial pop metal.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 4 May 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

And even despite that, Coverdale/Page does not rule.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 4 May 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

The scenes of the brothers walking into the ring through the crowd, punching the air to "Here I Go Again" was the best part of The Fighter, so cute

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 May 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

derailment of thread!

calstars, Sunday, 4 May 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link

I listened to a bunch of recent-era Kip Winger stuff last month, dude is a really talented musician. Very heart-on-sleeve on the power balladeer style but if you're up for it he writes enjoyable sorta power-metal-lite

SHES ONLY SEVEN TEEN

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 May 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link

"someone did some great stuff in the 70s, ergo they will be doing some great stuff in 1993" is a dangerous way to live imo

― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:26 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I read the post as criticizing Coverdale , not Coverdale /page. I would assume the latter would include some purple and whitesnake stuff in conference

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Sunday, 4 May 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

Concert.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Sunday, 4 May 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link

I would totally go to a David Coverdale TED Talk

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 May 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link

Page and Plant actually played "Shake My Tree" off the Coverdale/Page album at some shows.

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 5 May 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link

David Coverdale is like Robert Plant if every time I looked at Robert Plant I burst out laughing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 May 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link

Also, tbh, I can't think of Coverdale without thinking of Whitesnake, and I can't think of Whitesnake without thinking of
http://24.media.tumblr.com/51adb996ed5118723b40925d54810f8c/tumblr_mu6bpnbLbm1swgho7o1_400.gif

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 May 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

Rodolfo Maximiliano Sarzo Lavieille Grande Ruiz Payret y Chaumont

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 May 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link

tbf, his bass is actually a giant Jolly Rancher.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 5 May 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 May 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

(it's the rough mix/alternate vocal of "Whole Lotta Love" coming out on the new reissue dealies)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 5 May 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

huh kinda cool, altho differences seem pretty minor (some extra flanging here and there etc)

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 May 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

well and the lead guitar track is missing

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 May 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

This Black Crowes/Page live album is pretty good! I mean, it's Zep, but they're not really/always trying to sound like Zep, especially the drummer, who does not sound like Bonham or even really try.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 May 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

BTW my fave fake Zep remains Billy Squier."Lonely is the Night" ftw.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 May 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link

That's pretty spot on.

calstars, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link

first mention of this, no?

previously unknown cover of the blues classic “Keys to the Highway” from 1970

stadow shevens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

It was posted upthread when the track listings were first revealed in March.

Would definitely be cool to hear. That Page interview is a little frustrating, though; it sounds like there's a lot more in the vaults, and obviously it's his call, but a "complete sessions" approach with false starts, breakdowns, and studio chatter would be pretty fascinating.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

my bad, must've missed it. my memory was that the bonus tracklistings announced are mostly instrumental/alternate mixes or whatever. I kind of don't believe Page that there's actual extra completed, unreleased songs in the vault but who knows. Some sort of Beatles Anthology type thing might be interesting tho.

stadow shevens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

Isn't Zep infamous, like Bowie or Pink Floyd, for really not leaving much behind? Alternate takes, sure, but we're hardly talking, like, Springsteen's backlog of 200 quality songs that never made it to albums. Or Neil Young, for that matter.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, and most of what they did have lying around ended up of Physical Graffiti and Coda, with stuff on the latter in some cases getting fresh overdubs.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/robert-plant-slams-idea-of-zeppelin-tour-im-not-part-of-a-jukebox-20140508

Plant stands up to leave, but turns on his heel. "Do you know why the Eagles said they’d reunite when 'hell freezes over,' but they did it anyway and keep touring?” he asks. "It’s not because they were paid a fortune. It’s not about the money. It’s because they’re bored. I’m not bored."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

"Alter Bridge frontman Myles Kennedy admitted to spending a few days playing with the group."

lol

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

good on Percy

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link

totally the right call.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

"Actually, it was because of the money. It was a lot of money!"

"Well, yeah."

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link


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