GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

^You live by Lena?

he lives in a dumpster behind her house

#livebylena

they've taken over the apt frontage next door today

no Jedi sighting, shirted or otherwise

keep me posted

Ask Adam what his favourite Star Wars episode is.

Then say "PREMONITIONS?!"

I am at work, they'll be gone tonight

elsewhere in the area for next week or so

morbs do you think adam is hot

what board have you been on? y

^she P.3. Eternal(ly)

i do too

i was just wondering tbh, i dont follow ilx!!!! i think we have similar taste in dudes

i mean i dont follow it on a strict regimen

obv the Adam Sackler character is an unnerving basket case, but Driver is just the hottest escapee from the Ascent of Man diorama I've ever seen.

(I'm curious to see on the S3 DVDs how he went from a half-assed performance artist to a Shavian actor on Broadway in a year)

i am only a critic as it were but adam seems p hot to me too, also i caught myself making his frustration-noise the other day and couldn't tell if it was in male-monkey imitation or not

(I'm curious to see on the S3 DVDs how he went from a half-assed performance artist to a Shavian actor on Broadway in a year)

He's absolutely terrible in the Major Barbara scenes. Unsure if it's intentional or not

kid got good reviews doing Shaw in NY in 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Driver#Stage

Adam is insanely hot imo.

dude has eclipsed Lisa Germano as most famous person from my hometown

He's bad in the Major Barbara scenes and it is intentional but it's not successfull. He doesn't pull it off but that's possibly the directors fault or just the fault of the filming schedule.

These things take time.

jfc

http://defamer.gawker.com/lena-dunham-starts-brooklyns-newest-trend-salad-for-do-1576484897/

that article and every comment on it makes me deeply miserable and I have nothing else to say about it

sorry for hurting Hurting

Just finally finished S3. I honestly feel like Andrew Rannellis might be the best thing about this show at this point.

They really went all-in on the Hannah and Marnie being terrible people thing huh

i've had the last five episodes on my tivo since they aired; the season they all got jobs and started boring lives was the season they lost my attention

I didn't know Andrew Rannells was in the original cast of The Book of Mormon; he's replacing NP Harris as Hedwig on Broadway in a few weeks. He massively irritates me.

thought s3 was good but reading this thread is absolutely the most frustrating experience.

I didn't believe that. It made her decision too simple. Art or Mammon? Hmm, which shall it be? In reality people do both. I suppose I've never believed her memoir sounded good or necessary so I found her puritanical response especially hard to take.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:24 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not if they want to be any good at one of them

Her NYer piece last week was alright if a bit by the numbers. Not sure what she expects us to take away from it. Seems a bit like writing as therapy. Which is fine, but keep it to yourself. When you share that kind of stuff, does it lose its efficacy?

Oh no, oh no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6oZNofy_0

oh wait
http://gawker.com/zosia-mamets-pre-fame-rap-video-would-mortify-even-shos-1654811659/+maxread

on the one hand, the breitbart agenda here is pretty loathsome, but this exchange between the writer and a current Oberlin student is pretty fucked imo:

"What you're looking for," Ms. Hess informed me, "could create a conflict of interest on campus regarding sexual assault."
"I'm not sure what you mean."
"People here are less interested in justice for this kind of crime and more interested in helping the victim. I'm not psyched to help you do this."
"You can look at everything I've thus far written about this. We just want to know the truth."
"Asking whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant," Ms. Hess proclaimed. "It's just not important if they are telling the truth. If this person had wanted criminal justice they would have pursued it."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/12/03/investigation-lena-dunhams-republican-rapist-story-falls-apart-under-scrutiny

it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth??? breitbart sucks and i can't stand all the conservative white men who get so riled up and angry by Dunham's existence, but "it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth"??????????

you're a moron

yes i know i am, i'm not disputing anything in Dunham's book (which i loved), but doesn't it matter if someone is telling the truth about a rape? that's important right? i'm not being glib - the whole notion that this needed to be investigated by breitbart is completely ridiculous, but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around "It's just not important if they are telling the truth." i don't think she's lying, and all the discrepancies the writer points out are so flimsy, like "oh, he actually didn't have a mustache and purple pants" and "he graduated a semester later than Dunham said." it's an obnoxious hit piece. "Asking whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant" - i completely agree this is not something you ask a victim, but "It's just not important if they are telling the truth" - wtf? it isn't??

you, like breitbart.com, are misapprehending the context of that quote and also attaching importance to what this one person says for reasons that remain unclear to me, and also you are actually engaging at all with something posted to the website breitbart.com, hence you are a moron

jfc someone sent me the link because she knew i loved the book, and fwiw engaging an article or a website you vehemently disagree with does not a moron make. how did i "misapprehend" the context of the quote? i want to understand "Whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant," because i don't.

in the context of a breitbart reporter calling you up and digging for dirt?

Why should anyone care what breitbart or ms. Hess have to say in this context, both are completely irrelevant.

for starters, whenever you see url's containing breitbart.com, just assume whatever you are reading is being presented incorrectly, especially if the subject matter involves rape but also pretty much anything else. sincerely hope that is helpful.

"Whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant" - does anyone agree with this? i'm speaking generally, not about LD - the quote seems insane to me and i wanted to see how ILX felt about it, if it's a common sentiment going over my head. and i don't mean asking/grilling a victim about the veracity of their claims - that is unacceptable unless abundant evidence suggests otherwise...but whether or not a rape occurred matters, yeah? am i just cherry-picking a wrongheaded line from a college student or is this more of an accepted notion than i thought? that's all. i'm genuinely confused by it and want to understand the context of the quote

for starters, whenever you see url's containing breitbart.com, just assume whatever you are reading is being presented incorrectly, especially if the subject matter involves rape but also pretty much anything else. sincerely hope that is helpful.

i read it with a pound of salt in my lap. the writer is garbage. but that quote threw me for a loop and i want to understand it, and if anyone agrees with it and why, so i can learn.

Hi James O'Keefe

Your attention is probably best directed elsewhere, rather than allowing yrself to be trolled by breitbart.com

christ i was expecting to get chewed out but neither of y'all have explained why i'm wrong, which i almost surely am, and i want to understand the thinking behind that quote and if many people felt the same way. i don't think i'm cherry-picking - it's a bold statement. i'm just eager to see what other people think of it so i can learn. honest to god!

First of all: This transcript is based on memory and extensive notes taken during the call

do you really need more?

Second, why does it matter at all what this person said? She is the current student station manager of a station where maybe Dunham's purported rapist worked years earlier, before Hess was there (and we don't necessarily know that Dunham hasn't changed details, e.g. to avoid a libel suit).

Third, she pretty clearly did not want to help breitbart.com with anything at all, so the conversation has to be read in that context.

Fourth, she not only has no connection to the case, but she has no connection to the campus's dealings with reported rapes. So, again, why does it matter what she says?

Fifth, I think it's likely that what she means is "truth would matter if there was actually a specific person's guilt or innocence or reputation at stake, but there is not."

In other words "why are you poking your nose around in this, asshole?"

Oh wait, I know why it matters, because as a prominent Oberlin student she is part of the larger SJW conspiracy to cover up false rape accusations against people who don't exist.

Well, there is a person's guilt and innocence and reputation at stake. Dunham didn't use a pseudonym for the rapist and he was quickly found online. Side with and help the victim always, but to say "the truth is irrelevant" seems messed up to me, and if it doesn't to you, i want to know why because like i said, i am most likely wrong and ignorant. in context, she's (the student) not referring just to this case - she's talking about sexual assault and rape on campus in general. i'm not begrudging her or berating her, it doesn't even matter who said it, it's the quote itself that took me by surprise and i'm just seeing if anyone feels the same way, so i can understand it properly, if it has any merit at all, which is why i posted in here in the first place.

sorry for writing in circles - i want to learn about something that's totally out of my depth + experience because i am probably wrong, thats all