Britpop : Time For Reevaluation?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1554 of them)

Yeesh. That must have been from the last series of spitting image, and kind of sums up how stale it had got.

Last word on britpop in comedy comes from the immortal fast show dyad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYmvrtrq7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcwKgxu2wk

Give it a name, brothers and sisters.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

Spitting Image had gone stale long before then. grey john major was their last good idea

۩, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

I posted the 'Colon'/'Indie Club' video above, but I'd totally forgotten about the 'Mr. Wells' sketch! Totally classic.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

oh god we used to sing that Mr Wells at school :D

kinder, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9DRc8gcBDY

kinder, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

re: this http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/04/britpop-25-years-on-how-do-blur-and-oasis-fans-vote/

"But according to the polling, 24 per cent of Blur fans vote Lib Dem — the largest minority — while a third of Oasis fans vote Labour..."

This sounded suspiciously wrong to me, given that hardly anyone supports the Lib Dems any more, and then the graph in the article looks even more wrong, with Blur supporters supposedly lining up as Lib Dem 24%, Labour 15%, Conservative 14% and UKIP 12% (which still leaves 35% unaccounted for). So I had a look at the data in the YouGov link and I don't get anything like those figures. It comes out Blur - Lab 41%, Con 32%, LD 14%, UKIP 12%; Oasis - Lab 47%, Con 37%, LD 4%, UKIP 12%. I just don't know where on earth the article gets its figures from.

(I know, I really shouldn't care)

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

99 percent of Blur fans vote?

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Technically not Britpop, but French and Saunders doing The Cranberries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR44J1a9A8g

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

Possibly a PhD or at least a potential Guardian listicle in the history of alt.com indie pastiches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rK8sN4p_zs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQamw4xxxHY

Stevie T, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

Didn't Spitting Image do 'Charleslife' as well?

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Chris Morris' parody of the Pixies (entitled 'Motherbanger') is probably the most accurate parody I've heard to date, but it doesn't really fit in this thread :/

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5_sfkEkqA0

everything, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

Check out this great playlist I just found on Spotify!! Thought i'd share it! http://open.spotify.com/user/one-media/playlist/3o7LY1pjsKSpXRpjkQHr1G

Kyna_Mavies, Friday, 2 May 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link

hi completely new poster! welcome to ILX!

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 May 2014 08:53 (nine years ago) link

slow on this, but:

"But according to the polling, 24 per cent of Blur fans vote Lib Dem — the largest minority — while a third of Oasis fans vote Labour..."

This sounded suspiciously wrong to me, given that hardly anyone supports the Lib Dems any more, and then the graph in the article looks even more wrong, with Blur supporters supposedly lining up as Lib Dem 24%, Labour 15%, Conservative 14% and UKIP 12% (which still leaves 35% unaccounted for).

Yeah, they've egregiously misread the figures: it's not that 24% of Blur fans vote lib dem, it's that 24% of lib dem respondents prefer Blur to Oasis – which seemed the oddest spike in the results to me (as I said upthread somewhere) since Blur support runs at ~15% in most other slices, but then it occurred to me it's prob because no-one votes lib dem & so there's maybe a small sample size problem.

It's the "Who is better – Blur or Oasis?" question on the first page of the results that they've misunderstood.

(I really shouldn't care either)

woof, Friday, 2 May 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

btw does anyone have a playlist of shit britpop? i think it would be fun to listen to

woof, Friday, 2 May 2014 09:32 (nine years ago) link

LOL

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 2 May 2014 09:40 (nine years ago) link

?

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link

who are One Media?

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

We Are All One Media

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link

http://omgstaffs.com/
One Media Group is the student media group, based at Staffordshire University.

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/OMGstaffs

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link

just what ilm needs , more students!

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/stefan-carter-2/mix-for-one-media-radio

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:53 (nine years ago) link

oh and nothing to do with the one media group
http://flyingrodent.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/we-all-got-to-go-some-time.html

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

at the risk of completely fouling the waters, did ilm ever have a britpop vs grunge poll?

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link

Are you going to start one?

it should be nu-metal though since they both started roughly in 1994 after kurts death

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link

Well, nobody really regrets Grunge, not in the same way...

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah but nu-metal xp

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

nu-metal is where the yank and britisher ilxors can come together in rare unity of hatred

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

not really any sort of effective opposition then

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link

you could try post-grunge

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

A friend wrote this work in-progress idea on Livejournal about a decade ago

"Idea for a 64-track compilation box-set:

called "Nuggets 3: artefacts from the Britpop era 1995-98": Dp you think the Rhino record label would go for it?

Disc 1
1. Kenickie "In Your Car"
2. Bennet "Mum's gone to Iceland"
3. Bis "Kandy Pop"
4. Catch "Bingo"
5. Smaller "God I Hate this town"
6. Disco Pistol "Say Something"
7. Snug "Beatnik Girl"
8. Dweeb "Scooby Doo"
9. Urusei Yatsura "Slain BY Elf"
10: Carrie "Caliafornia Screaming"
11.Sean Macguire "Today's the Day"
12: Straw "That song McGazz always goes on about"
13: Sympiosium "Drink the Sunshine"
14: Theaudience "A pessimist is (always) disspointed"
15: Electrascy "My Best Friends Girl"
16: The Supernaturals "Lazy Lover"

Disc 2

1.Mike Flowers Pops "Wonderwall"
2.The Supernaturals "The Day before yesterdays's Man"
3. Me Me Me "Banging Around"
4. Midget "Big Invisible Baloon"
5: Mark Owen "I am what I am"
6: Lodger "Leaving Here"
7: Travis "Tied to the nineties"
8: Lung Leg "Right Now Baby"
9: The Dandys "Dirty Weekend"
10: Headswim "Tourniquet"
11; Thurman "drinking Tea"
12: Kenickie "Punka"
13: The Young Offenders "That's why we lose control"
14: The Chicks "Let Me Go"
15: Northern Uproar "from a window"
16: whatever they were called "I hate Oasis (and I hate the Beatles too)"

Disc 3
1.Bis "This is Fake DIY"
2: Stereophonics "More life in a tramps vest"
3: Midget "Kylie and Jason"
4: Period Pains "Spice Girls (who do you think you are?)"
5: Electrascy "Morning Afterglow"
6: The Gyres: "Pop Cop"
7: Shampoo "Girl Power"
8: No Way Sis "I'm like to Teach The World to Sing"
9: Vyvyan "that one they had"
10: WhiteOut "One by them, and all"
six others

Disc 4
1.The Supernaturals "Smile"
2. Bennet: Someone always get's there first"
3. Bis: "Sweet Shop Avengers"
4: The Chicks "Daria"
5: The Montrose Avenue "One they did"

( others (suggestions please?)

15:Kenickie "Come out 2nite"
16: Lung Leg "Maid to Minx""

PaulTMA, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

6: The Gyres:

christ, they were from Blantyre

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link

IT's good but it's missing 'Your Woman'

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

What about a 'Britpop not from Britain' list - Grass Show, Cardigans, Superpunk, Fools Garden etc... Many more?

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link

'Neue Zähne für meinen Bruder und Mich' by Superpunk is the best German Britpop song ever BTW.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link

Didn't Bob Stanley do a three-disc Britpop compilation fairly recently?

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

He didn't compile it, he's on it though.

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

Common People (Brit Pop: The Story) is Bob Stanley's compilation.

sleepingsignal, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link

Ah, fair enough.

Just looked at *that* track listing, better than the PostBox one.

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

jesus that box is a slog. went through it recently and so much of it is just BOOOOOOREDOM

jamiesummerz, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

I see BS couldn't get Blur or Oasis.

that led to me Stanley on early Britpop. hadn't seen it before

woof, Friday, 2 May 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link

The Gyres documentary on youtube is a classic insight into the arse end of Britpop. The band themselves have been much mocked for the gulf between their Oasis-style 'We're Best Band In the World' rhetoric and their feeble tunes, but they're just young lads trying to live out their rock 'n roll dreams and don't come across as especially obnoxious. The real villains are the London music biz wankers who reportedly signed them as a tax loss. Weird documentary, as if BBC Scotland bosses ordered an unenthusiastic team to make it. Most of the talking heads offer faint praise or politely neutral comments. Duglas T Stewart appears feeding the llamas at Glasgow Zoo, in a cute Pet Sounds homage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3_X30uQFc

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

Disc 1
1. Kenickie "In Your Car" - still listen to on the reg
2. Bennet "Mum's gone to Iceland" - whatever
3. Bis "Kandy Pop" - Manda Rin is a very nice lady
4. Catch "Bingo" - this is beyond shite
5. Smaller "God I Hate this town" - dunno, shit name
6. Disco Pistol "Say Something" - dunno, shit name
7. Snug "Beatnik Girl" - dunno
8. Dweeb "Scooby Doo" - dunno
9. Urusei Yatsura "Slain BY Elf" - this was good, would listen. SLAAAIIIIN
10: Carrie "Caliafornia Screaming" - vaguely remember this, my o/h has a Carrie tshirt for some reason, used to get 'cool movie' comments
11.Sean Macguire "Today's the Day" - wtf is this doing on here
12: Straw "That song McGazz always goes on about" - ?
13: Sympiosium "Drink the Sunshine" - I liked them when I was 15
14: Theaudience "A pessimist is (always) disspointed" - Why isn't Sophie still doing this stuff, she bangs on about britpop every chance she gets
15: Electrascy "My Best Friends Girl" - dunno
16: The Supernaturals "Lazy Lover" - someone bought me the Supernaturals album on tape, it was unsurprisingly terrible

Disc 2

1.Mike Flowers Pops "Wonderwall" - novlolty
2.The Supernaturals "The Day before yesterdays's Man" - go away
3. Me Me Me "Banging Around" - dunno
4. Midget "Big Invisible Baloon" - another band I saw more tshirts of/flyers for than heard
5: Mark Owen "I am what I am" - this is so lol, there's a video of him somewhere doing this jumping around desperately trying to look indie with stupid glasses on. Bonus shit points for actually saying 'I'm just doing what I'm doing and if anyone else likes it it's a bonus'.
6: Lodger "Leaving Here" - can't remember
7: Travis "Tied to the nineties" - already going shit by this point
8: Lung Leg "Right Now Baby"
9: The Dandys "Dirty Weekend"
10: Headswim "Tourniquet" - think I had a bunch of Headswim stuff on a mixtape, might go listen, maybe not
11; Thurman "drinking Tea"
12: Kenickie "Punka" - classic
13: The Young Offenders "That's why we lose control"
14: The Chicks "Let Me Go" - Chicks were amazing
15: Northern Uproar "from a window" - NO
16: whatever they were called "I hate Oasis (and I hate the Beatles too)" - Teen Anthems, is this the same as Jamie Theakston Superstar? Whither Helen Love 'Long live the Uk music scene'?

Disc 3
1.Bis "This is Fake DIY" - yay Bis (can't actualy remember this one)
2: Stereophonics "More life in a tramps vest" - Stereophonics became the bane of my life, I hate them
3: Midget "Kylie and Jason" - I liked Kylie and Jason, I don't know this
4: Period Pains "Spice Girls (who do you think you are?)" - thought this was hilarious as a youngster. Had a b-side called Daddy Buy Me A Pony iirc
5: Electrascy "Morning Afterglow" - this is ringing a bell
6: The Gyres: "Pop Cop"
7: Shampoo "Girl Power" - Shampoo rule, boys drool
8: No Way Sis "I'm like to Teach The World to Sing" - someone in my family had this single
9: Vyvyan "that one they had" - read about them in Just 17, thought they sounded cool
10: WhiteOut "One by them, and all" ?

Were Silversun around this time? Velocette? (They even got a Smack the Pony pastiche).

kinder, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

velocette got a Smack The Pony pastiche?? didn't know that.

piscesx, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

nick b - no poll it seems but I did find
What meant more: Britpop to Americans or Grunge to Brits?

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.