Twitter C/D

most people don't need want an "information network" or whatever in their lives.

strike "need"

people USE it as that though

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:14 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its not nearly the primary use case tho

maybe just admit youre a service thats not gonna ever be as big as facebook

this might be what they have to do

most people don't need want an "information network" or whatever in their lives.

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:15 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if someone cld perfect the one place to get all your news thing i guarantee you people would be lining up to join

twitter is at its best when it's primarily for interacting with your friends about information

xpost why couldn't facebook be that for them?

like, news shouldn't be the point but a minor feature from which discussions with your friends are born

*nods*

facebook is crap

i could see facebook having a resurgence of sorts if people trim their friendslists - no one ever completely abandoned it à la myspace because it always fulfilled a functional use (events, basically)

and messages and photos

and status updates

xpost why couldn't facebook be that for them?

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:18 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cause facebook is for looking at pictures of babies, the thing m/l that makes twitter hard to understand for n00bs is people use it in a lots of diff ways for lots of differnt things, if it was a pure information network whatever that would look like then it would be easy to understand

nah facebooks platform sucks

twitter is so fresh so clean

xpost

and as I found out over the weekend, how family keeps up with people who don't live close by. totally agree that if people trimmed their friends list, FB would be less terrible/more useful

well both their designs suck worse than they used to because of the constant terrible changes

facebook has always been kind of sucky tho

like, news shouldn't be the point but a minor feature from which discussions with your friends are born

― lex pretend, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see my use cases are prob more like in order of importance

1. consuming things (news, jokes, photos of castles)
2. shouting into the void
3. convos

once you "figure out" twitter, it's great--it's not always about making the user happy. make the user work

how many social networks are most people on? anecdotally, i see most people on facebook, a subset on instagram, a bunch on pinterest and twitter. i don't think people give that much of a fuck about news or information or whatever you want to call it, and they can just subscribe to the few things they're interested in on facebook and that's enough, obviating a need to sign up for twitter. a lot of us are on twitter but there are a lot more people out there who aren't and never will be

I hate facebook and will never go on it - twitter is just low maintenance and simple enough for me. of course, their problem is they built this mildly amusing thing that doesn't make money, so it will be gone eventually as it hemorrhages users (which will happen to facebook too eventually)

well both their designs suck worse than they used to because of the constant terrible changes

― lex pretend, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:22 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its an established progression at this point where during your userbase building phase you make the design good and easy so people will like it, then during your profit taking phase you fuck up the design in order to facilitate your money making

1. consuming things (news, jokes, photos of castles)
2. shouting into the void
3. convos

― lag∞n, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:23 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also use cases for life

remember that newsfeed facebook announced last year but never launched? looked much better than what eventually came out

on the desktop

i don't think people give that much of a fuck about news or information or whatever you want to call it

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

news is extremely popular markers more popular even than facebook

news how do i get it

information: where is it

ilx is my platform

news is extremely popular markers more popular even than facebook

how many sources do people follow? ben thompson the other day said something like "people have seven websites they go to" and it was in the context of a bigger point that was probably way more nuanced, but the thing stands that you can just install the fucking cnn app or follow them on fb and you don't need a separate service to keep up with a thousand sources like all of us do

people like us are not like most people when it comes to news consumption

we're not that special

thebn again i don't knwo anythig about technologies

how many sources do people follow? ben thompson the other day said something like "people have seven websites they go to"

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seven websites isnt cool you know whats cool one website

as an aside, lag00n, i'm getting those phantom twitter notifications too

they fkn w us

people like us are not like most people when it comes to news consumption

― markers, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:29 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do think this is v true

special snowflakes us all

admitted news junkie here folks, its the first step to recovery lol

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totally agree that if people trimmed their friends list, FB would be less terrible/more useful

― Dominique, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:22 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkp

i'm not really sure about that. i basically blocked all but a few friends from my newsfeed and it's not any more interesting. now instead of having 300+ people linking to stupid bullshit on the web, it's 10-15 people linking to stupid bullshit on the web. that's what the facebook environment is conducive to. it has never made me feel more connected to people. if i want to talk to my friends i call them or hang out with them.

Well yeah -- and I did the same. The end result was that I ended up dropping off FB entirely for 2 months, and then when I came back, I was just way less interested in general. It has a use for me, I guess, in that my family/friends can see my pictures, and if I have to, I can catch up on their (generalized) exploits. But as an everyday thing, something that I have to make an effort to parse -- no thanks. It's aggressively soul-eroding.

completely agree with everything you said

here and there i'll think "oh yea, facebook, i'll see what's going on there" and 30 seconds later i'm off

I'd be more likely to use Facebook if it didn't keep reverting back to "top stories". I just want to read everything in chronological order.

just use www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

i'm not really sure about that. i basically blocked all but a few friends from my newsfeed and it's not any more interesting. now instead of having 300+ people linking to stupid bullshit on the web, it's 10-15 people linking to stupid bullshit on the web. that's what the facebook environment is conducive to. it has never made me feel more connected to people. if i want to talk to my friends i call them or hang out with them.

― marcos, Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:39 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not in my experience. most of the people i know and are closeish friends with don't live near me and are not phone talkers. i was off FB for over 2 years and ended up losing touch w basically everyone. it was just easier to rejoin with a small friends list to post baby pictures and updates to out of towners.