Britpop : Time For Reevaluation?

Jaime, rather.

Jamie did indeed have a great voice and a great look. Really wish he hadn't thrown it all away.

xpost some student next door blared "supersonic" two times in a row today. jesus im being plagued by britpop this week

Man, the centerpiece of my Oasis biopic will just be 45 min on the making of All Around the World, made like the bell-casting scene in Andrei Rublyev. Just going into every little detail as a bunch of cokeheads tramble all over this inane little childrens song.

Anyone else think At the Drive In had a bit of a Marion influence in them at times?

1.50 into this is basically a bit of a Marion song.

http://youtu.be/NrZ7ew8n5SU

will this Oasis biopic have a man made out of sausages?

Jamie did indeed have a great voice and a great look. Really wish he hadn't thrown it all away.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And great onstage too! I only ever saw Marion once, but they were great live.

Yeah I saw them too and they were fantastic. Why wasn't Miyako Hideaway a hit? Great song.

The Great Escape isn't a perfect album, but it's definitely not a bad one in my opinion. Just needs a couple of the lesser songs shaving off it.

As an innocent young man hearing it for the first time, I definitely though The Great Escape was an instant classic and deserved all the reviews it got. To use the gauche, corny references of the mid-90s, it was the Sgt Pepper's to Parklife's Revolver: lesser songs, but brilliantly conceived and produced. Yes, it doesn't stand up so much now, but it's still a pleasure to listen to pretty much from beginning to end. Mr Robinson's Quango is terrible and the Ken Livingstone song is too much, but otherwise I even like Top Man, which is just the Fun Boy Three played for laughs. Terrible lyrics, but even the best Blur songs (e.g. This Is A Low, as Taylor Parkes points out) have ridiculous lyrics.

No one writing up Britpop - at least the Blur end of Britpop - really seems to mention Martin Amis, which is strange, because his influence is so apparent on much of this stuff. London Fields, I think, more even than Money. He Thought of Cars couldn't exist without him, and he's in so many other songs. His reputation has suffered since the 90s in the same way Britpop's has. His style was also obviously a huge influence on many of the writers on the mid-90s music press. In Taylor Parkes' recent article you could still see those familiar sentence constructions - kind of comforting, kind of absurd.

What a sickeningly brilliant thread this is, it confirms my teenage hypothesis that 99.9% of people are diabolically clueless cunts who pretend to like music.

Since I discovered that Audacity has a function built into it so it emulates playing 45 singles at 33 1/3rpm, and because of this thread, I've been running various Britpop "classics" through it. 'Place Your Hands' by Reef slowed down is the funniest fucking thing ever.

What a sickeningly brilliant thread this is, it confirms my teenage hypothesis that 99.9% of people are diabolically clueless cunts who pretend to like music.

― xelab, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:12 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And the other 0.01% are just cunts?

Taste in music is 90% your geographical location/social networks/inherited physical and cultural traits and 10% the effort you put into socializing.

I've just reread some Martin Amis (Money and Success) and he is (or quite possibly ws) v great. Albarn mentioning him (London Fields specifically) in an early tiny Rolling Stone bit ws what made 13 or so yrold me read him, actually

The most spot-on Pulp parody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVibsNPXBx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNUAumvfzg

Jarvis Cocker (Pulp) - vocals
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead) - lead guitar
Jason Buckle (All Seeing I) - rhythm guitar
Steve Mackey (Pulp) - bass
Steve Claydon (Add N to (X)) - keyboards
Phil Selway (Radiohead) - drums

What a sickeningly brilliant thread this is, it confirms my teenage hypothesis that 99.9% of people are diabolically clueless cunts who pretend to like music.

― xelab, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another great xelab post, can't get enough of that purple-faced transplanted Guardian commenter rage. keep tearing this place up chief

Just think..

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did anyone enjoy the worst of britpop Spotify playlist?

you can add to it if you think we missed anything. Try not to load it with the same bands though. No more than 2 or 3 songs per band please.
http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/0y0gMIOGyKaqj70K3eEprx
or
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:0y0gMIOGyKaqj70K3eEprx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYIvxwFRplU

Spitting Image was still going then?

Apparently so! This clip is meant to be from '96. Didn't see it at the time, though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/10744192/10-ways-Britpop-changed-modern-manhood.html

oh and added to that list of shit songs - TOPLOADER

Toploader were shite, but I didn't really consider them to be part of that whole thing.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/04/britpop-25-years-on-how-do-blur-and-oasis-fans-vote/

Yeesh. That must have been from the last series of spitting image, and kind of sums up how stale it had got.

Last word on britpop in comedy comes from the immortal fast show dyad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYmvrtrq7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcwKgxu2wk

Give it a name, brothers and sisters.

Spitting Image had gone stale long before then. grey john major was their last good idea

I posted the 'Colon'/'Indie Club' video above, but I'd totally forgotten about the 'Mr. Wells' sketch! Totally classic.

oh god we used to sing that Mr Wells at school :D

along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9DRc8gcBDY

re: this http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/04/britpop-25-years-on-how-do-blur-and-oasis-fans-vote/

"But according to the polling, 24 per cent of Blur fans vote Lib Dem — the largest minority — while a third of Oasis fans vote Labour..."

This sounded suspiciously wrong to me, given that hardly anyone supports the Lib Dems any more, and then the graph in the article looks even more wrong, with Blur supporters supposedly lining up as Lib Dem 24%, Labour 15%, Conservative 14% and UKIP 12% (which still leaves 35% unaccounted for). So I had a look at the data in the YouGov link and I don't get anything like those figures. It comes out Blur - Lab 41%, Con 32%, LD 14%, UKIP 12%; Oasis - Lab 47%, Con 37%, LD 4%, UKIP 12%. I just don't know where on earth the article gets its figures from.

(I know, I really shouldn't care)

99 percent of Blur fans vote?

Technically not Britpop, but French and Saunders doing The Cranberries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR44J1a9A8g

Possibly a PhD or at least a potential Guardian listicle in the history of alt.com indie pastiches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rK8sN4p_zs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQamw4xxxHY

Didn't Spitting Image do 'Charleslife' as well?

Chris Morris' parody of the Pixies (entitled 'Motherbanger') is probably the most accurate parody I've heard to date, but it doesn't really fit in this thread :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5_sfkEkqA0

Check out this great playlist I just found on Spotify!! Thought i'd share it! http://open.spotify.com/user/one-media/playlist/3o7LY1pjsKSpXRpjkQHr1G

hi completely new poster! welcome to ILX!

slow on this, but:

"But according to the polling, 24 per cent of Blur fans vote Lib Dem — the largest minority — while a third of Oasis fans vote Labour..."

This sounded suspiciously wrong to me, given that hardly anyone supports the Lib Dems any more, and then the graph in the article looks even more wrong, with Blur supporters supposedly lining up as Lib Dem 24%, Labour 15%, Conservative 14% and UKIP 12% (which still leaves 35% unaccounted for).

Yeah, they've egregiously misread the figures: it's not that 24% of Blur fans vote lib dem, it's that 24% of lib dem respondents prefer Blur to Oasis – which seemed the oddest spike in the results to me (as I said upthread somewhere) since Blur support runs at ~15% in most other slices, but then it occurred to me it's prob because no-one votes lib dem & so there's maybe a small sample size problem.

It's the "Who is better – Blur or Oasis?" question on the first page of the results that they've misunderstood.

(I really shouldn't care either)

btw does anyone have a playlist of shit britpop? i think it would be fun to listen to

LOL

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