"Can I say you're my girlfriend on Facebook?"

odd out of the context of the tech industry, but within it no one would bat an eye at my saying that

i think their basic point is that mobile doesn't like kitchen sink apps, and their existing app is an example of that, so they're going to break out that functionality

― markers, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

people including those at facebook seem to think that "focused" apps like snapchat and instagram are more native to smartphones and that people prefer those types of experiences to more complicated ones like the traditional facebook app, which attempts to mimic the functionality of their desktop website

i actually sometimes get annoyed that the fb phone app doesn't work the exact same way as the one for my computer -- i know people that will just use the "internet" version of it on their phones (rather than the mobile apps) because they have "download new app" fatigue & resentment

i would prefer one app too for fb but that's not the strategy they're taking

It's interesting that Google can get away with separate apps for Voice, Drive, Gmail and G+ (ok, whatever on that last one), but Facebook is so branded as a one-stop shop that splitting features into different applications does seem counter-intuitive.

Kinda like how Microsoft sites still insist on using Searchlight. Download a whole other thing just to look at your website? Nah, thanks anyway.

facebook has always been seen as one thing: messages, events, photos, whatever were all parts of one thing called facebook.

google has been seen as separate things forever, and only over the past few years have they tried to change that.

google was google search and google drive and google reader, none of which had much to do with the other, and facebook was FACEBOOK.

so, in both cases it has to do with design decisions from years ago that impact how users think of their products today.

i should really go look for that zuckerberg quote, but somewhere he says something like, on the desktop it made sense for us to be a website, but on mobile things are different. which isn't a bad way to think about things.

Those reasons possibly why Facebook has this Evil Empire dark side rep like Microsoft back in the 90s while Google, which is bigger and much more loosey-goosey with private info and stats, still gets a pass.

its also a huge misunderstanding of your user base xp

facebook also working on decoupling from the other end in that they left their big acquisitions instagram and whatsapp as separate products, its a really smart big move away from their previous just keep adding all possible functionality of every app to facebook eg location data like foursquare asynchronous follow relationships like twitter, like it mightve taken the constraints of mobile to make them realize how bad that approach was for facebooks usability but it was also bad for the desktop vers imo

Those reasons possibly why Facebook has this Evil Empire dark side rep like Microsoft back in the 90s while Google, which is bigger and much more loosey-goosey with private info and stats, still gets a pass.

― pplains, Monday, April 28, 2014 1:35 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like this has mostly to do w the fact that facebook is social and really wants to show pics of your titty bar field trip to your aunt

its also a huge misunderstanding of your user base xp

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, April 28, 2014 1:41 PM

fuck the "user base"

Everybody be cool, download WeChat

i always thought you were james franco

http://www.bu.edu/today/2014/could-facebook-use-end-a-marriage/

Did we talk about the "Facebook makes you feel happy/sad" story anywhere?

"Share this on Facebook"

In my tl just now, a post that reads:

Can anyone who plays the ukulele teach me how to pluck a couple of hipster chords?

https://www.facebook.com/mentions

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We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.

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Is Facebook getting owned right now

crushed

crashed

i've completely stopped using facebook except for messaging because i can't stand things i like or comment on being seen on my, like, cousins' walls and stuff. or old coworkers. people i'm just generally not close with, who i don't really want potentially seeing my interactions with my friends. every time i almost comment on someone else's post i think "ugh what if [x] sees this, that's weird" or "they really don't need to be a spectator in this conversation" etc. and you can't change this! you can restrict your own shit but any interactions with your friends are open to the world.

and i don't post my own shit either. i generally don't really understand what facebook is for anymore aside from broadcasting wedding/baby news/photos. it made sense when i was younger but now it's like i'm curating everything for a bunch of people who aren't on that level w/me. i basically just want to unfriend all my cousins but that makes thanksgiving weird. and i don't need my girlfriends' dad seeing my humorous TEN GIGS OF WOMEN'S BUTTS detective stabler cover photo but i forgot it was there when i friended him (bc i had to!) everything is awkward! i need a pr person

Yeah, I get uncomfortable when I see some fb-generated update like

"[my old babysitter] replied to a comment on [her sister who I'm not even friends with]'s post!"

because that means I know that my father-in-law is getting updates like

"how's life is making jokes about cops with the commies from his high school ska band!"

join the rest of us internet hermits and cut the fb chord guys. been fb free for three ish years now and haven't ever looked back. brb storing my urine in a mason jar

i am blessed by having told family members that i only use fb for academic stuff. they will never bear witness to my stream of dumb likes and narcissistic selfies

http://i.imgur.com/YXsbRGg.png

i've completely stopped using facebook except for messaging because i can't stand things i like or comment on being seen on my, like, cousins' walls and stuff. or old coworkers. people i'm just generally not close with, who i don't really want potentially seeing my interactions with my friends. every time i almost comment on someone else's post i think "ugh what if [x] sees this, that's weird" or "they really don't need to be a spectator in this conversation" etc. and you can't change this! you can restrict your own shit but any interactions with your friends are open to the world.

and i don't post my own shit either. i generally don't really understand what facebook is for anymore aside from broadcasting wedding/baby news/photos. it made sense when i was younger but now it's like i'm curating everything for a bunch of people who aren't on that level w/me. i basically just want to unfriend all my cousins but that makes thanksgiving weird. and i don't need my girlfriends' dad seeing my humorous TEN GIGS OF WOMEN'S BUTTS detective stabler cover photo but i forgot it was there when i friended him (bc i had to!) everything is awkward! i need a pr person

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:34 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a big spate of unsubcribing ppl works wonders

or just muting them

but then you risk getting into that situation where you run into someone and they expect you to know they got married or are pregnant or w/e and you're like "hey, I didn't know!" and they're like "but I posted it on fb!" and you're like "sorry but I unfollowed you"

You can just say "oh I must have missed that!" and then it's over.

i've completely stopped using facebook except for messaging because i can't stand things i like or comment on being seen on my, like, cousins' walls and stuff. or old coworkers. people i'm just generally not close with, who i don't really want potentially seeing my interactions with my friends...and i don't post my own shit either. i generally don't really understand what facebook is for anymore aside from broadcasting wedding/baby news/photos.

Wow, I'm completely the opposite -- I think the messaging system is a disaster, to the point that I sort of seethe when someone sends me a message on it. But I find the newsfeed works well as a sort of less public twitter; good for sharing links, good for asking questions ("does anybody know a good ____", "does anybody know how to ____," etc.)

can't stand the messenger thing, or any of FB at all really, but my mother has decided this is the only way she will even bother communicating family events with me and my siblings. even though I've told her over and over that i rarely look at FB and that it is never the best way to communicate with me, she still does it.

a big spate of unsubcribing ppl works wonders

― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:38 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or just muting them

― polyphonic, Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:44 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't mind seeing their shit i just want them to not see mine

You can add people to lists and then chose which list you send messages to. You'll still see them, they won't see you, unless you choose to show them.

I don't think it's as flexible as Google's circles, but I think it'll work.

ya but i don't want them seeing the stuff i like/comment on which fbook broadcasts to everyone whether you like it or not

Having been back on Facebook in the last 3 months purely for my own self promotional reasons work-wise, it's been useful in that respect.

But fuck damn there is still so much bumf and crap and pointless chatter on there from people I know, and it's embarrassing.

ya but i don't want them seeing the stuff i like/comment on which fbook broadcasts to everyone whether you like it or not

Only if the post youre liking/commenting on is public or "friends of friends", afaik.

And why anyone makes global posts I have no freaking idea.

Yeah, I get uncomfortable when I see some fb-generated update like

"[my old babysitter] replied to a comment on [her sister who I'm not even friends with]'s post!"

because that means I know that my father-in-law is getting updates like

"how's life is making jokes about cops with the commies from his high school ska band!"

― how's life, Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:41 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha! This is definitely happening now. Obstreperous old coot has been commenting on posts by friends and friends-of-friends alike. This morning he was lecturing a Finnish friend of my father's about proper wood chopping techniques. Why am I still on this nightmare network?

what is the point of forcing users to crop all profile pics in a square?

To make everything standardized?

its so strange and unnecessary tho

bumf and crap and pointless chatter are the Very Stuff of Life to a great many people and without it they would become sad, ghostly apparitions.

Xpost so it will fit on next years calendar.

I mean, every site with an avatar has a standard size, right?

Now why square? Because it's the easiest shape to make for photos?