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I really wanted to go somewhere more exotic than Hampstead. Not that Essex is exotic but... well, ~not London~.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 10:09 (nine years ago) link

Wikipedia says that "The thicker the summer canopy, the more the competitive ground-cover is suppressed, encouraging a dense carpet of bluebells, whose leaves mature and die down by early summer."

One place that springs to mind is Coneybank Wood, nr. Great Missenden. There's a footpath running through the wood (it's a pleasant walk from Great Missenden to Wendover) and I remember the woods being awash with bluebells in early May 2009.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=51.711544~-0.721207&lvl=15&sty=s&eo=0&q=london&form=LMLTCC

https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=%22Coneybank%20Wood%22

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2444/3625834968_c232c89e2b_z.jpg

dubmill, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link

Early May? maybe I am simply too early.

I shall have to investigate woods and walks and train times and things.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

I am trying to get up the nerve to just write back and say "My rates for print publication are £30 for an original image, and £50 for a colour image" (which is probably actually incredibly low, because I've no idea what the market rates are, because everybody just expects you to work for free) and take it from there.

do this! exposure is worthless!! make the buggers pay! [and your rates are very reasonable]

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

maybe I am simply too early.

I shouldn't think so, it's nearly May already. They'll be out now.

dubmill, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link

Maybe I just picked a bad forest! Except there were actual posters up, on the carpark billboard of "Epping Bluebells" so there surely must be bluebells in Epping forest; just not the bit I was in. I shall try another woods.

Stevie, I did do. They declined to pay, claiming they were new and just getting started and apparently the whole point of the magazine is... advertising for local businesses? I declined to do them any illustrations.

Weirdly, I got another local "community" magazine, also mainly advertising for local businesses, and it had this weird rant in the back of it, about how they were supposed to be a charity, and the printing press they run is to train and employ disabled people and apparently some people they got in to organise advertisers for them "realised how lucrative this was" and ran off with their advertisers to start their own magazine, and this is "stealing from a charity, which is just not done!" and it was all very outraged and weird and ~local politics~ and it makes me wonder if they were talking about the people that approached me? Whatever it is, it's very strange, and all quite ~local~ and kind of amusing and kind of sad in "two bald men arguing over a comb" territory.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:53 (nine years ago) link

"two bald men arguing over a comb"

No sexist comments please

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

One of the worst examples of casual gender based derogatory stereotyping I've seen for a while on ilx

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

Seriously, go fuck yourself. I'm not going to bother with a lazy zing, just get the fuck off this thread with that bullshit. You're not funny and you're not clever, you're just an asshole. This is not the place for you.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

I am worried about going bald

conrad, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Just cop to unconscious sexism - you'll feel better in the long run.

But I am buggering off, though.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

Branwell, I am pretty sure Trent Park has bluebells in abundance, if you fancy a trip to the northern end of the Piccadilly Line.

Just got back from Warsaw, visiting the in-laws. They live in Wilanów - fascinating place. It has a palace, which is kind of the Polish equivalent of Versailles.

They also have this at the end of their street - The Temple of Divine Providence:

http://warsawtomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Temple-of-divine-providence-Warsaw-Front-Wilanow-9.jpg

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

And having considered for a few hours, I'm back to say:

BB - it's irritating that when you're called out on something that you just use the 'this is such a lazy zing, I'm not even going to answer this. Fuck you, seriously' response e.g. exhibit a

I don't know why men put up with overwork culture.

This is really ignorant and unthinking. The long hours culture is a massive problem that affects both men and women. You may have seen reference today to Nick Clegg's speech at the launch of the Cityfathers - a group established to try to effect cultural change in this area. It's a complicated area where men suffer as do women. I assume you'd be outraged if I said, 'I don't know why women put up with x, y z [e.g. part-time jobs, lower pay etc}]

exhibit b

kind of amusing and kind of sad in "two bald men arguing over a comb" territory is into belittling men territory, even if unconsciously.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

it's a common saying and it is most definitely not 'One of the worst examples of casual gender based derogatory stereotyping I've seen for a while on ilx' and you know it.

kinder, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

or is it a US/UK thing like "scheme"

kinder, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

It's a quote by Borges abt the Falklands War

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Why don't you lecture me some more about this ~reverse sexism~, and how appalling this commonly used phrase is in conjunction with the terrible systematic gender-based oppression that men and their rights face, and then we can get into reverse racism, and how terrible white people have it in the UK, and how terribly discriminated against heterosexual people are in this culture.

Or else, you can leave a conversation you have been asked to leave, or maybe just go and fuck yourself you tedious little excuse for a human being.

No, seriously. You have all of ILX to play on, and you decide you're going to come on this thread, and have this discussion here. Spare me.

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

Know what this thread needs?

Kessler, that's what it needs.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyx6ptPVWj1qzk5i5o1_1280.jpg

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

Plenty of sayings have gone past their use-by date.

Worth me clarifying that what i was getting was 'worst examples of casual gender based derogatory stereotyping' ..it's the casual unthinkingness of it....but let's not quarrel like two fishwives.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

Kessler making purple sex faces.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/31c30717b9c7412f11c2f40643bb097f/tumblr_n40cfmqX9H1qmmuqeo1_500.jpg

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Kessler looking like a demented creature from the pits of hell...

https://24.media.tumblr.com/7f55b2526f574b8b4ff95c58e17b746f/tumblr_n4gc8bh2W61qgze9ho2_500.png

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

Haha, yes, this facial expression just about sums it up, Danny boy.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/8ca84c3c7b124c63d72ef56ba368f485/tumblr_n3n8iaPLyj1qfh80oo4_r4_250.gif

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

This is toxicity in its purest form: someone asks you about something questionable that you said, and your response is to cast aspersions at THAT person and their motives, and proceed to make the entire thing ALL ABOUT YOU and how wounded you are by these terrible allegations that something you said might have been ableist, rather than just saying "OK, yeah, sorry I could see how that could read badly, I'll try to be more careful."

― "righteous indignation shit" (Branwell Bell), Friday, February 7, 2014 9:29 AM (2 months ago)

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

It's raining Kesslers, hallelujah, it's raining Kesslers...

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2814/12394739164_ff8e34fece_o.png

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

giving the pathetic trolling exactly the attention it deserves, BB your beau reminds me of one of DuJour and googling it I see I'm not the only one!

kinder, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

DUJOUR MEANS POST-PUNK!

(I like it)

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

There's also been EXTREMELY good news in the Cornish community tonight.

"At Midnight, Kernow Becomes an Offically Recognised National Minority of UK on par with Wales, Scotland and Ireland"

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

(x-post)

Yeah:

maybe just go and fuck yourself you tedious little excuse for a human being

really deserves to be applauded.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

To celebrate, let's have some Du Jour dance moves from Kessler...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5301/5640442078_368f6f86c0_b.jpg

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

A cowlicked dude in need of a comb...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3283/2832362756_b8bf50907d_b.jpg

Branwell Bell, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link

Hey BB I had a rich hairline like that Kessler when I was 26, since the male pattern baldness sequence began it far less impressive. Huh? how come people don't smile at me anymore? Oh yeah it is because I am oppressed obv !

xelab, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

Be more Kessler: grow sideburns!

Du Jour means POST-PUNK! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

I blame Brandon for this. If he hadn't joined sodding Interpol and made me go see them my delicate sensibilities would never have been exposed to the dangerously masculine quiff of Kessler and my mind would remain unbesmirched. Damn you, Curtis! *shakes fist*

Du Jour means POST-PUNK! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link

His bro wrote for Select in the 90's, didn't google that just have a spergerish memory for useless information. Ted Kessler.

xelab, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link

~Ironically~ said bro writes about ~men's issues~ for the Torygraph now!

(I didn't google that either; little Kessler tweeted one. It was actually a rlly lovely piece, to be fair)

((It's weird that I was aware of big Kessler for years because of Select, Q, etc. without connecting that they were related. But then again, I never had any reason to pay attention to anyone in Interpol unti big Curtis joined.))

(((not going to speculate on my tendency to fancy hott little brothers)))

Du Jour means POST-PUNK! (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 24 April 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link

xps
I did wonder if they were related! (Otherwise people our age and older think of *Secret Army and the spin off when Kessler is mentioned)

*UK late 70s WW2 Belgian resistance drama that Allo Allo was a pisstake if (the colonel was in both funnily enough)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Army_%28TV_series%29

I saw it when it was shown on UK Gold some years ago and couldn't believe my eyes when Cliff Claven from Cheers turned up in it.

anyway sorry for interrupting about tv you probably weren't aware of BB.

Scooby Doom (۩), Thursday, 24 April 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

WAHT.

By the end of this series Kessler and Brandt are closing in on Curtis, as their investigation into a murder in France has led them to the name 'Monsieur Maurice', which is Curtis's pseudonym. Brandt and Kessler pay their first visit to the Candide to locate him. Kessler's interest in Curtis poses a significant threat to Lifeline, and so it is agreed that Curtis will return to England. However Kessler begins a troop encirclement of Brussels in order to trap him. Curtis manages to escape to Switzerland by posing as bus driver for a local Hitler Youth group that is travelling out of the city on a day trip.

Of course I am now imagining various members of Interpol chasing each other around Switzerland while dressed as bus drivers for Hitler Youth groups.

No, wait, that's mine own private re-write of the programme, called Secret Machines Army.

Du Jour means POST-PUNK! (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 24 April 2014 08:44 (nine years ago) link

No, seriously. You have all of ILX to play on, and you decide you're going to come on this thread, and have this discussion here. Spare me.

― Branwell Bell, Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fucksake, how many threads are 'yours' now? Its fucking tedious.

online hardman, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link

Do you fancy daniel kessler? thats fuckin fascinating. post pictures of him in every thread going and then cry when people post in one of 'your' threads.

online hardman, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:14 (nine years ago) link

"ITS ALL PREP FOR THE SLASHFIC IM WRITING"

online hardman, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link

I feel u man I too was blindsided by this being a branwell thread, didn't get that from the title, nope

PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:24 (nine years ago) link

lol, true, hadnt seen that but im still unrepentant.

online hardman, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link

Daniel Kessler, right, still don't know who is he though

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link

do not read if you hate Google

PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link

Interpol guitarist. There's also a Wall Street Journal columnist with the same name who specializes in healthcare policy.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link

Kessler otm xp

PhetamineGrrrn (wins), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if that's another of his million brothers.

His father was also a journalist. There are a lot of journo Kesslers about. It seems to be a thing.

Du Jour means POST-PUNK! (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link


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