HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

Can we call him Long John Littlefinger now since he fancies himself a pirate

I'm with reddening. The bad taste in my mouth wrt this show has become too bitter to ignore.

I feel like a bad person for not really feeling in any way remotely upset, annoyed or offended by any of the scenes in this show.

The notorious Buffy/Spike attempted rape in Season 6 is my personal line in the sand for this kind of stuff, and while I don't feel as strongly about this particular instance as I did about that, it still feels gross and unnecessary and has now taken me out of the show even more than the crazy amounts of boobage and whatever else

now granted I'm a hypocrite because I know I'll still watch the show...I kept watching buffy after that too...but now I'm just kinda along for the ride and consciously not invested in any kind of escapism that the show offered me before now. like, I have their number, I know there's an angle now, and it'll be a lot easier for me to dip out if I do eventually lose interest

idk

maybe that's not a very good explanation but

yeah, so that's me

i can certainly sympathize with anyone offended by the show in general--it's basically packed with cravenly gratuitous violence and sex. we all draw that line where we will. but for me it's so pulpy and basically absurd that i can only be amused at it. it doesn't even really approach anything genuinely transgressive, in either a positive or negative sense.

wish they'd divert a little bit of the t&a budget to find a way to film a genuinely exciting action scene.

yeah. the big showdown with nu-Dany hunk guy was basically the opening of Troy. but it was also fairly well done and i like Troy so

It was better! I did like that scene.

xxp:

Besides Daenarys and the surviving Starks, most characters have been presented as repugnant in some way. So none of their actions should be taken as an endorsement.

I suspect a depiction like GRRMs, and which the director failed to achieve (non-consensual advances that suddenly become consensual) would paint the screenwriter/showrunner in a worse light.

There's still a number of female characters with way more agency than their male counterparts, even if only a couple get to swing swords on the regular.

As for the token nudity, the show could stand more sexual equality. Perhaps we'll see Olenna Redwyne's nubile houseboys (guessing here, haven't read) ahould the show visit Highgarden.

Ramsay was really great in the dungeon scenes; felt like it overstepped into ham territory with his father though

― 龜, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:34 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the dude who plays him is pretty lame, for one, he looks like every other dude around his age on the show, like exactly, and for two, yeah, ham city

Ham City. Porktown. The Big Oinker. We all had names for the place. But what went down there was no side of bacon.

Michael McElhatton is great as Roose, though, so that helps.

Yeah he has the perfect voice

totally. ramsay should be more roosey.

also this tweet is otm https://twitter.com/nicole_cliffe/status/458042660993789953

Well, it's well-established that he's a bit of a doppleganger for Ted Leo

well-established in all the best circles

I don't mind Ramsay but at the same time roose has such a sinister creepy terence stamp thing going that he feels a bit lightweight in comparison.

The book definitely characterizes the Boltons/Bolton-Snows that way.

Littlefinger's accent has definitely become more ridiculous this season, right?

Littlefinger was using the same tone of voice he used to deliver his "chaos is a ladder" speech - which may have been the last we saw of his character at the end of last season?

I remain unmoved by the 'rape' scene. It was grim, but in this show it didn't strike me as being something that stood out of place, particularly.

It seems even thicker than at the end of last season though.vIt's kind of puzzling that in the course of shooting his scenes no one is like "TIME OUT dude why are you talking like that?"

i enjoy the weird accent. the show has made him much more of a pantomime villain and i am fully behind the theatre of it.

Inbetween last season and this, we watched the Wire, which has made Littlefinger all the more puzzling.

Gillen is not a good actor. He just about got away with it in The Wire but he's been terrible (and bizarrely-accented) in everything he's done since then

i thought he was great in the wire!

Don't get me wrong, his accent, and acting in the Wire were both weird. I had no idea he was in it until the episode he appeared.

he was great in Queer as Folk (which was obviously forever ago, but still)

I thought he was quite good in that Statham/Considine flick (the name of which escapes me). Ropey accent aside I think he's a very good Littlefinger.

Yeah, I think he's a great fit for Littlefinger. Just wish he could pick one accent.

lol I hated this guy and his chicken-faced g/f in the Wire, he's only slightly less irritating here. such a silly actor.

his silliness as littlefinger is kinda perfect for the role tbh. also you better not be talking abt my girl brandy burre.

his chicken-faced g/f in the Wire

If you are referring to D'Agostino then we should have words, outside.

Brandy Burre in a blonde wig:
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/UbyKywWvlCE/maxresdefault.jpg

shakey you really love to make fun of the way women look

I can make fun of you too if you like

in my defense I reserve it for people on TV who are asking to be looked at

http://www.joshhanson.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/youaskedforit.jpg

tbf s1ocki it's only a select few he fantasizes torturing

thx ethan

anytime morbs

Loved Gillen in Treacle Jr. He played a sweet, delusional outsider who may have a mental condition. Quite sad and funny film.

does ilx have an ignore feature yet so i can opt to never see another shakey mo collier post again? thanks, mods

I feel like Dinklage's accent is a bit shaky too but he's just so charismatic that it's extremely easy to forgive. I feel similar about Gillen.

Doesn't Littlefinger travel a lot? Could that be an excuse for a wonky accent? Probably not. Some people pick up little bits of other accents very quickly and other people keep their original accent for decades in another country, I wonder how that works?

The Baelish family came from Braavos. Arya's tutor was from Braavos and had an accent. Maybe Petyr's weird accent is a shorthand way of getting into how he changed his family sigil and disavowed his Eastern roots.

Serious RetConning going on ITT...

What are some nonspoilery examples of said retconning

I just mean trying to come up with a "reason" for Littlefinger's new accent. Seems more like dude just switched accents...

LF has no personal connection to braavos tho, his family has been in Westeros for at least a couple generations and he was mostly raised at Riverrun so if anything he should sound like Catelyn.

jeez shakey

also this tweet is otm https://twitter.com/nicole_cliffe/status/458042660993789953

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:01 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao