The Cronenberg Thread

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I can't get the page to load, but apparently Criterion's announced at least Scanners (hopefully The Brood as well) as part of their July lineup.

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link

Just Scanners from what I saw.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link

It does include his first film, Stereo, though.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link

Oh, neat. Maybe Crimes of the Future is being saved for the Brood disc? Those two are available on the R1 blu-ray of Fast Company, but if Criterion have managed to get commentaries for them I'll be ecstatic. Cronenberg is one of the all-time commentary track champions IMO.

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

here are the extras:

The “Scanners” Way, a new documentary on the film’s special effects
New interview with actor Michael Ironside
The Ephemerol Diaries, a 2012 interview with actor and artist Stephen Lack
Excerpt from a 1981 interview with Cronenberg on the CBC’s The Bob McLean Show
Stereo (1969), Cronenberg’s first feature film
Trailer
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic Kim Newman

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

Oh wow. That cover design!

http://www.diabolikdvd.com/imgproduct/dab365c12bf05e22e0eb5df3b75b2212.jpg

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link

cover is better than the movie lol

brood is hilarious, would make a great double bill with possesion.

nauru, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Les Carlson, who played Barry Convex, the evil head of the Spectacular Optical Corp., in David Cronenberg’s hallucinatory sci-fi classic Videodrome, died May 3 at his home in Toronto.... Carlson also appeared in three other Cronenberg projects—as an intimidated newspaper editor in The Dead Zone (1983); as a doctor in the Jeff Goldblum starrer The Fly (1986); and as an aging actor in Camera (2000), one of a series of short films produced for the 25th anniversary celebration of the Toronto International Film Festival.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/videodrome-actor-les-carlson-dies-703127

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

:(

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

camera was great.

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

RIP

super-creepy in Videodrome

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

:(

he really has such a specific way of framing one-shots

― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:17 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and lighting them, i think

espring (amateurist), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

for sure

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

His death scene in Videodrome ranks near the top of Cronenberg's most horrifying visions.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

so far the major dissenter on Maps to the Stars is the guy who wrote the 'Showgirls is great' book ... I'm seeing it tom'w.

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-nyff-2014-david-cronenbergs-maps-to-the-stars

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

He is definitely NOT the only dissenter.

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

uh, yeah.

i actually didn't like the book as much as i was hoping, but it is interesting and thoughtful. and adam nayman is very smart.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

and the film does look terrible. but who knows?

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

yeah E i just meant in that roundup so far

im fine if everyone who likes Showgirls hates it

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

his last short was probably better than this

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 September 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

Anyone else read Cronenberg's new novel, Consumed? It is great -- and so, so classic Cronenberg -- and if the internet is to be believed, being filmed.

The Thnig, Friday, 26 September 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

he wrote a novel?

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

yes; most reviews haven't been as kind as The Thnig's.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

I tried to read a sample chapter online; it came off like a really up-its-own-ass airport thriller.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

i have no idea whether i'll like this new film, but i am kind of glad that someone punctured the idea of latter-day cronenberg as artistically infallible, which i think has become dogma in some quarters. i think history of violence and to a slightly lesser extent eastern promises are masterpieces, but the delillo film just felt unforgivably smug somehow... the new one looks like it could go in the same direction, what with all the blasts at hollywood etc. but who knows! sometimes the saving grace of a film that would otherwise be heavy-handed is its strangeness. maybe cronenberg will come through on that score.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

btw morbs adam nayman's take on showgirls is rather sophisticated and complex, by no means does he think it's without serious problems. his book is as ,much a reflection on what produced the varying reactions to the film as a defense of the film itself.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

i still think the book reads like a first draft, though, and it needed more research as opposed to opinion. it was a disappointment, frankly, but his thoughts on the film are still worth taking srsly.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

I found the car movie pretty unsmug and quite adventurous (tho it loses a lot once the ride is over;, AhoV just seemed too obvious in its thesis/themes to me. Still haven't seen Eastern Promises.

Not sure I've read much of Nayman, i haven't listened to his Cinephiliacs episode yet either. Just damn, of all the films to write a whole book about...

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

(I see he really liked All Is Lost tho, so kudos)

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

Shut up.

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m38x2qep7N1r2u9p7.gif

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

what the fuck is your problem lately, btw?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Um, I'm Nomi Malone?

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

of all the films to write a whole book about...

well, again, keep in mind that he's writing as much about the film's reception as the film itself. whatever you think of showgirls, the almost universal disgust that greeted its debut, followed by several waves of differently-styled reconsiderations, etc. -- that's an interesting story, i think.

i am not particularly high on the film myself but it does have some real virtues.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

i mean honestly "showgirls" is at least as interesting a film to write about as something more obviously packaged for critical exegesis like "safe" (to name a film that i think came out in the same year!)

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Also, btw Morbs, the market is ready, ripe and set for a blistering un-revisionist take on the 'girls.

Eric H., Friday, 26 September 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

I haven't read any reviews of Consumed, but I thought it was pretty damn good. If it hadn't been written by Cronenberg, I think it would've gotten a lot of positive "hang on now what is THIS?" from the folks-who-like-disturbing-books crowds. As it is, though, it does run through his obsessions in a rather checklist-type fashion.

The Thnig, Friday, 26 September 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

well, Maps is not a date movie. The Loved One turned up to 11.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

About a third of the sick jokes land (which is a lot, actually) but by the last half-hour it just feels like a shock pileup, and you can see several of the final transgressions coming five miles away. JuMoore is very funny, and Mia Wasikwhatzki and the kid, Evan Bird, who plays the jaded rehabbed 13-yo child star are both very good too. I feel very much about it the way I did A History of Violence; brilliantly made but just too overdetermined and cartoonish.

and to get really Hollywood about it, omg Carrie Fisher's face.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

I can probably handle it if it's someone like Moore acting batshit, and not William Hurt.

Eric H., Monday, 29 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

well her role's a lot bigger than Hurt's.

Pattinson glum aspirational actor-chauffeur is subsidiary, seems almost like he did it as a favor to Croney.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

dangerous method is the real nadir of latter-day cronenberg, imho - so lifeless and cheap-looking

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

watched cosmopolis at the w/end - never seen so many people walk out of a film, seriously. it is exceptionally boring, but somehow more Cronenbergian than the pallid heritage cinema of 'Dangerous Method'

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:20 AM

no idea what heritage cinema is, but your opinion has been noted and thanx

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

no prob morbs, i take it you'll want notifying too when you next repeat an opinion

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

anything to keep me in the news of this hotpot of regurgitation

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

if you can't regurgitate on a cronenberg thread, etc

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

so Mortensen and Rachel Weisz were sposed to do this originally? I didn't recognize Olivia Williams at all.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

this was the first time i heard applause for a deadly assault from (one member of) a Lincoln Center audience, so there's that.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Deadly assault is homicide, no?

Eric H., Monday, 29 September 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link


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