ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

yeah Paul with and without Art is a rare example where 2 distinct acts/eras are remotely equivalent. Even The Police/Sting, which are pretty well matched commercially, would come out really lopsided in an ilx poll.

i thought it was weird that it was all voted for on one ballot and then split into different countdowns.

had to subvert popular will somehow

Lou woulda been proud, boy

since it's hard even for a song or two from after the act's 'classic era' to place in the countdown, what hope do songs from solo albums have.

No hope if they're not liked enough--I just don't see that as a problem. Unless you feel that once you open up a poll to solo stuff, it follows that solo stuff must therefore place. Don't mean to harp on this. I just see it as a non-problem that resolves itself.

Have we hit peak sub poll burnout yet? In the Pink Floyd poll, I only received two ballots for the non-Syd solo sub poll.

How big is the non-SK catalog? And are we going to count Lora M's band, or are we keeping it to Corin/Carrie/Janet? I might scrape together 10 songs from:

Heavens to Betsy
Excuse 17
Quasi
Cadallaca
The Spells
The Corin Tucker Band
Wild Flag

And hah we might as well count anything from the self-titled debut as non-SK.

since it's hard even for a song or two from after the act's 'classic era' to place in the countdown, what hope do songs from solo albums have.

No hope if they're not liked enough--I just don't see that as a problem. Unless you feel that once you open up a poll to solo stuff, it follows that solo stuff must therefore place. Don't mean to harp on this. I just see it as a non-problem that resolves itself.

― clemenza, Monday, April 7, 2014 7:43 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's not a 'problem,' it's just a matter of, like, it was fun to count down the top ten Walter Becker/Donald Fagen solo tracks as an appetizer for the Steely Dan poll, but if it'd all been thrown in the same pot, there would've been at most maybe one Fagen track in the list. so by putting the solo stuff on an equal playing field, you're actually marginalizing it further instead of giving it its own space to evaluate and enjoy it.

xpost to Leee: I'll include Janet and Lora's stuff in the solo/side poll as well (just checked, Lora's band ninetynine has done EIGHT albums).

don't think quasi really should be in there

Have we hit peak sub poll burnout yet? In the Pink Floyd poll, I only received two ballots for the non-Syd solo sub poll.

i don't think so there were only a few ballots for the Steely Dan solo stuff but i got enough to make it interesting. plus the albums subpoll got 40 ballots for it, which is a huge number.

what abt portlandia xpost

like bee ok would admit to any sort of poll burnout

let's do loose fur next

I usually don't vote in any of the side polls unless I know the discography backwards and frontwards. Lately, the polls have been learning expeditions for me (Roxy, Dan). If there's a Dylan albums side-poll I'll definitely vote in that. I think the only Eno side poll is going to be Fave Production Job unless there's a clamor for Albums.

XPs Well, some Portlandia music featuring Carrie has been issued (digitally only IIRC), so if someone wants to vote for that stuff, they can. And as for Quasi, I debated keeping the solo/side poll to just Tucker & Brownstein, but in the name of completeness (and to make voting even more interesting) I've decided to let them in along with ninteynine.

lol at mookieproof, i'm very burned out right now. also, a very big fan of albums side polls.

If there's a Dylan albums side-poll I'll definitely vote in that

I don't even think of album polls as side polls, really. For artists with large enough catalogs, the albums are their own category. But there will be a Dylan albums poll for sure, along with a few other side polls.

"Are you hungry? Did you eat before the POLL?"_ILM Artist Poll #51_SLEATER-KINNEY

yeahhhh!

oooo getting closer to Autechre. very much excited about that one.

my cipater is getting eidetic just thinking about it

I don't know if The Reverend checks this thread -- I just sent him an ILXmail to give us a yea/nay on Outkast. Leee's pretty active on this thread so I assume if there was a problem with Autechre he'd have let us know about it. That'll get us through the next couple of months at least.

Do we really need another Autechre poll?

wait, waht?

There were a bunch of automated Autechre poll threads at one point iirc. But obviously if that precluded doing a ballot poll, most of them would not exist.

Yeah, there were a bunch. Whoever started all of them should be nutpunched.

lol

hey William, can you update my two mistakes when you update this the next time. somehow i dropped the names when i moved things around, so all you need to do is add these names.

45B. Velvet Underground + solo careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)

104. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK

is there really no Sabbath on that list? geez louise

xp - will do

I saw some "gauging interest" ideas thrown out there since the last full list, but I think the only one that needs to be added is my poll of Beatles solo careers.

I do hope somebody will sign on for a Devo poll.

also is there an update here?

81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings

or: "The Most Dangerous Band In America" - The SIGHTINGS tracks poll chatter, cajoling, and bar snacks thread

I hadn't even noticed Raymond started that poll.

I heard back from the Rev -- he hasn't been following the ballot polls closely and said that if anyone would like to take the reins on Outkast, it'd be cool with him.

I'll do the Outkast poll.

Cool, thanks!

I'd like to run an Erykah Badu poll.

You're on the list, Eric.

Raymond, do you want me to drop Sightings? I just don't think the support is there for a ballot poll.

Wait, did I miss the Bob Dylan poll?

No, it or the classic rock poll is coming next. I HOPE.

Can I get a mod to add "VOTING ENDS Tuesday April 22nd at Midnight CST" to the S-K thread?

Ghost Mod has acted.

Thanks!

Dylan next? Any objections to opening voting during the Sleater-Kinney rollout?

who's running that? can we have a super long voting window?

I vote for super long voting window, because then it'll push back the Autechre poll and my preparation ("preparation") for it.

I vote for a super long voting window for Dylan because of the amount of material to be re-listened (and in some cases, listened) to.

I vote for a longish Dylan voting window and Classic Rock to run at the same time. I know that might be an unpopular opinion. Staggered results rollouts, of course.

Since the classic rock poll is formed around a predetermined list, intensive listening will be minimized (unless you've never turned on a radio or gone out in public for the last 30 years).

I was thinking of rolling out Dylan nomination/voting thread this weekend, but only if Grisso doesn't mind. And I'm fine with however long a voting period people want -- 3 weeks at least, but really since I'm taking a short vacation over Memorial Day, 4 weeks would work well for me. I won't have time to tabulate and prepare results until the last week of May anyway.