OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

the muppets were massive here. I had the full bedspread etc when i was 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK6TVqbsKVk

Reagan or Van Zant

That Jezebel piece is surprisingly fair and has a great deal of OTM about it.

yeah I dug it

I agree w Maura and Ann re turnabout "My Wife's Stupid Record Collection". But I hope the brave guy writes better than Sarah O'Holla.

Either way, I'm sure Jezebel will be all over it, and rightfully so.

Some of the comments on that Jezebel piece, wow. The ones from women are illuminating and the ones from that d and d guy are hilarious.

I mostly like the article in spite of having that annoying forced casual style. I didn't really like the end about how people should just write what they feel maaaaaaan.

i liked that part!

Men write about music like this, women write about music like this.

*fart*

It's just one of those things that sounds like a vaguely good idea, but how many music reviews like that would you really want to read? Plus I think most good music writers write with both knowledge and feeling.

That'd be ideal, bt way too often that knowledge doesn't work in a record's favour. I'm sick of googling for reviews of something I'm loving cos I want to read more and finding a bitter critic going "This sounds like something I heard 20 years ago so it's worthless", esp as I've p much always heard those things too and somehow don't let it ruin everything NOW for me

Maybe that's just dudes on Twitter tho

If you're a woman and you do a thing, you can't *ever* just do a thing (bad or good), you do a thing, and there's 700 posts worth of people's ~feelings about women~ attached to you and your thing.

And it gets super tiresome and tedious after a while.

Like I'm aware of the existence of "non-music fans" already. No offense to the man but I wouldn't read deems's music blog either

― post-nodern music player (wins)

what nonsense ad-hom shit is this tho

FP'd him

appreciate it

deems yr music blog is gr8, peace brother

wait is there an actual darragh blog?

Christ no

Its the suggestion that there might be that piqued me tbph

It's called New Moaners Express

my hopes raised for a minute there. surely you could at least have a thread where you could offer yr thoughts on whatever pub bands/radio tunes/hold music catches yr ear day to day

quite sure im not alone amongst ilxors in considering that a nightmare idea

you can't shy away from controversy

I wouldn't read it but rest assured I would post the url itt

FP'd again

lolz

So does wins have a blog then?

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/23/get_lucky_rick_moody_and_dean_wareham_debate_daft_punk_disco_and_whether_pleasures_should_be_guilty/

Rick Moody comments worst music writing

Christ

It keeps getting worse and worse

Wait until he says he's down with current rap and cites backpacker faves of 2000

'This exchange began as a Facebook thread'

I, too, like some disco. (Although if we are speaking of black music from the ’70s I would rather listen to funk almost any day.)

Part of my problem with the Hollywood sound of the very expensive “Random Access Memories” (meaning, in this argument, the selective forgetting of one’s origins) is that it conceals what is French, or it makes the argument that what is French is only “ripping off black music,” when that is far from the truth. There’s a whole history of African-American jazz and soul artists going to France for more respect (Nina Simone comes to mind), there’s a whole history of French artists (Django Reinhardt) borrowing American idioms and bringing something nativist to them. But I feel like there’s a quantum change in “Random Access Memories,” in that what the French robots bring to the proceedings is that absence of the nativist. They bring superior hiring capabilities, and astute marketing.

half the comments in the second half are like shit that'd come out of a clueless grandparent's mouth, which makes you furtively glance from side to side, hoping anyone within earshot doesn't take them seriously

wow this is the worst garbage i have tried to read in months, it's like reading a first draft of a student paper

and it's long, too!!

when he says something indicating he probably doesn't like that kind of music he's comparing this song to but it is indicative of something he thinks has _legitimacy_ so it gets a pass

*vomit*

But the French robots apparently do not know about “Trans,” or rather, they are too cynical to care about “Trans,”

I find four-four tyrannical a lot of the time (which is why, e.g., I revere “Trout Mask Replica,” or the music of Ornette Coleman)

Haim is when I reach for my revolver (metaphorically)

I actually love black music, love the blues (especially the country blues), love New Orleans jazz, love hard bop (a lot), love free jazz (I admire Sun Ra without restraint), love Mingus and the Art Ensemble of Chicago and James “Blood” Ulmer, and Ornette, love Coltrane, love almost every period of Miles Davis (except the smoove comeback albums), and I even love a fair amount of hip-hop (I am on the record as regards the Roots, but also Blackalicious, Deltron 3030 and other “underground” hip-hop artists), lest it should be assumed that I only like black music in retrospect. But I found a lot of disco, back in the day, sort of dull.

Rick Moody is the worst.

Generally with Wareham until this: a whole lot of bad songs: “I Like the Nightlife,” “Ring My Bell,” “Boogie Oogie Oogie,” “Boogie Wonderland,” “Boogie Nights,” “I’m Your Boogie Man.”

I'd like to thank the ILXOR upthread who informed me that IKEA were ceasing production of expedit record shelving. I got the last remaining four by four birch effect shelving unit in my local branch to go with my other shelves and me and my Gary Numan picture discs thank you.

There was a thread (I swear Mark S started it back in the mists of time but I can't find it) about "words or phrases that cause you to completely lose faith in a piece of writing". You know, stock phrases like "but (pop singer) didn't even write the tracks!" or "come on, (techno artists) aren't even playing ~real instruments~" or the like, which are so "wow, you have nothing to say to me about music" that you instantly stop reading and hit the back button?

I've got a new one now, and it's "Interpol are just a xerox of Joy Division" and he says that in like the second paragraph. So even though, well, I still haven't got around to listening to that Daft Punk album (because who has the time for such a duty listen) I can safely say that Mr Moody has nothing of value to add to any discussion. Except maybe the occasional LOL that people are pulling out itt.

As ever didn't click thru but ay ay ay what a clueless tool

Why read any piece of music crit when you can just have ILX rip it to pieces for you.

Why listen to any of today's popular albums when you can just have ILX listen to them for you and tell you what to think.

Hurrah!

Comments in reviews most likely to put you off buying a record or going to a gig

No, it wasn't that one. It was phrased "things that cause you to lose confidence in a piece of writing" because it wasn't that it would put you off *buying the record*, it was things that made you realise that the *writer* did not actually know what they were talking about, and therefore you should not pay attention to the rest of the review.

The word "tunesmith" would do it for me..

Possibly this is the thread?

"Use other words please."

Found it:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=42731

^^^want this, but specifically for *music* writing

i was thinking of "use other words please" as well!