Vinegar Joe, Greenslade, Steamhammer, Gracious, Gravy Train: Who does what and did they do it well?

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"Cyclone" is the one w/him on, and it would probably have been pretty ropey even w/o his singing.

I agree - I wouldn't put the state of Tangerine Dream albums at that time down to Mr. Joliffe.

Pangolino again, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

All that heavy blues rock stuff seemed more popular in the States, hence Humble Pie, "Live at Fillmore" etc - which sold about 5 copies in the UK.

You got that right. The heartlands -- now we call them "the red states" -- really went down hard for the heavy boogie and blues shouter. That probably explains something of why Status Quo didn't do so well. Quo definintely had no manly man blues shouters. Saw them open for Slade and Black Sabbath at a sold out show in Philly many years ago, and the crowd was puzzled. Bob Young came out and played harmonica for the set, which made them look somewhat like a more unkempt version of Sha-Na-Na.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Francis Rossi's voice was hardly well suited to "manly blues shouters"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Weedy, but he really made it work for Quo. "Railroad" -- man, I liked that one.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I like his voice!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, don't mistake me. I'm a fan of Status Quo. Rossi can write songs all right by me. Those guys play mean Tele-rhythm, too. Very, very few people have their attack.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess we have to include Nutz here, too. Was there any love for Nutz in the UK? Precious little in the US although they did get to put out a few albums.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

hookfoot, jesus...

i have steamhammer's "speech," the album that was only released in germany. i gather it's nothing like their earlier work, these tracks are guitar/bass/drums/vocals tracks in proggy exploration style complete with a faux-eastern chanting/droning introduction. i enjoy it. at least one of the tracks wound up in radically different form on the armageddon album.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"Hella Nervous" by gravy train!!! is fucking kryptonite to me, all the "indie" girls in my house lurve it and i'm disgusted by its total lameness.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi deej:

Not Hello Doctor!

This Gravy Train --

Ballad of a Peaceful Man.

Although I understand why it the former is giving you a rash.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I see hmm well i should clearly read threads before participating in them.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I have Gravy Train's Ballad of a Peaceful Man! I don't remember a single thing about it! I think it has some vaguely Tull-ish action going on? Haha -- I love how Tull becomes the fallback point of comparison for a prog group that one is a bit, ah, lukewarm toward. Actually, I definitely didn't hate the Gravy Train record or anything. I still have it, I will try to listen again. I think I bought it back when I was scooping up all the Vertigo CD reissues on Repertoire. I never did get the Cressida thing. What about Ben?? Has anybody heard Ben? What a silly name.

Like Hookfoot or May Blitz? May Blitz cover art ruled but my friend bit on reissues and they were really not enticing to him.

Have you heard the May Blitz things George? I think you'd really like them! Maybe the 2nd album moreso; the first album is a little plodding in places, but I still love it. Who are Hookfoot? I've never heard of them. But if they sound like May Blitz I will definitely have to investigate.

Weed to thread. What did Weed sound like?

Haha -- I actually think Weed are the only Ken Hensley / URiah Heep affiliated offshoot that I have NOT heard! I've been meaning to pick that thing up forever. But, um, anybody got any Rough Diamonds or Head Machine or Byron Band questions?

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Y'see, there's this CD store going out of business up the street from me. The owner banked on being able to tab an audience that went for lots of the things we're discussing here but the rent killed him before he had the time to get the revenue coming in. So a great deal of this stuff is going out the door at slight discount.

Hookfoot wound up as Elton John sidemen. Caleb Quaye was the guitarist and their rekkids were that mix of clueless folkie hard rock, simpleton's prog and blooz that quite a few Brits fell into around that time. There was always one or two heavy or near heavy songs -- probably accidental -- on their records. Maybe call them a Brit Crazy Horse, only darker and slower sounding. Produced by Gus Dudgeon.

Never Have heard May Blitz. Have seen the reissues on Akarma [?!] but did not take the plunge. Was Tony Newman the drummer?

Yeah, Weed I've not heard, either. How 'bout a Toe Fat report?

They also have a Grootna (or is it Groonta???) CD which looked to me like it's in Scott Seward territory.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and what about Illinois Speed Press, who were 'Merican? Or more importanty, If, who where Brit and look like they were "shite" -- to borrow from Dadaismus.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

this was my toe fat-inspired thread:

Rolling Late-60's/Early-70's Thud-Rock Thread


I have never heard Grootna OR Groonta. I loooooove the Illinois Speed Press album I have!!! It's great. And I own one really good Wild Turkey album and one really bad Wild Turkey album.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I may have to shit. Look at this!

Gnidrolog's "Lady Lake."

The one-star review is what's doing it for me. Two chord folk prog jamming!

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Tony Newman was the drummer for May Blitz .. actually, haha, their ORIGINAL drummer was apparently Keith Baker from Bakerloo -- whos' heard THEM?? -- and who went on to be in ... Uriah Heep! Where is Pete Frame when we need him? but seriously George I think you would really dig The 2nd of May and probably the first one too.

I listened to one Illinois Speed Press record many years ago at my college radio station, but I don't remember much about it. I think Scott is a fan though.

haha, IF -- jesus, I have like 3 of their records for some ungodly reason. Now THERE is a band that also sounded "like Tull."

Toe Fat are ... ehh. Not very good. I think it makes sense that Motown put them out on Rare Earth in the States .. I think they kind of sound like a bad British Rare Earth. Of course I own the record with Ken Hensley on it though.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I have both Wild Turkey albums and I can't remember the difference. Which one is better? Battle Hymn? yeah, I seem to recall Battle Hymn being better that Turkey.

oh, I know what I forget to mention, I bought Egg's first album on Saturday. It's really good! Then again I am a sucker for that kind of stuff. I already had The Polite Force, but I'd never heard the first one. Man, ELP TOTALLY copped their steez from Egg.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Keith Baker from Bakerloo -- whos' heard THEM?? -- and who went on to be in ... Uriah Heep!

Hey, Clem Clempson was IN Bakerloo, too. And "Bakerloo" was really trying to cash in on Jeff Beck during his heavy white boy blooz thing. Or that's what it sounds like to me.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Clem Clempson was in EVERY BAND EVER. He was also in Rough Diamond with Byron.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

That's right! Didn't Dave croak shortly afterwards? I remember the ads in mags for Rough Diamond. They were supposed to be a supergroup with guys you never heard of, except Byron, who you'd only heard of if you loved the mighty Heep. What did they sound like?

I bought the Natural Gas LP around the same time period. Another supergroup: Joey Molland, Jerry Shirley, some guy named Clarke who played bass for HEEP before Gary Thain. I can't remember a damn song on it! And I played it at least once or twice a week. Maybe I should buy it again. I've never seen a copy since.

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

am I the only Ancient Grease fan on ILM? actually what am I talking about, I'm not an Ancient Grease fan. That album kinda blows, I don't even know why I have it. I don't know why I have a lot of the records I have, truth be told.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

the Rough Diamond album is .. completely forgettable. at least, I've completely forgotten it. Byron's voice wasn't all that hot at that point. I do remember that much. Yeah, I think he was in a bad way....

Never heard of the Natural Gas record before! But wow, Jerry Shirley, he's one of my absolute favorite drummers from that whole scene, so I will look out for it. And Gary Thain is one of my absolute favorite bass players from that whole scene! always nice to see him get mentioned on ILM. I've always meant to check out some Keef Hartley stuff, but I heard it's kind of horn-rock or something? I mean Chicago & BST I can dig, sure, but I'm not so sure about British horn-rock. Then again I love the Colosseum record I have so who knows.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Natural Gas: Apparently people had high hopes at the time. Or it's the pure milk of human kindness at work.

Billboard's Top Album Picks
NATURAL GAS-Private Stock PS 2011.Good basic rock that avoids heavy metal formula and opts songs that keep away from purely AM themes and heavy use of keyboards and guitars. LP is a set of 10 songs from ex-Humble Pie Jerry Shirley. ex-Uriah Heep Mark Clarke and top studio man Peter Wood that depends on songs more than long instrumental breaks.The one long guitar solo is a tasteful Molland piece that closes a song. Group appears to be filling a current musical gap, capturing the general feeling of fun that characterized British rock in the 60's as well as the musical skill necessary for today's audiences.
Best cuts:"Once Again A Love Song,""You Can Do It,""I Believe It's Love,""The Right Time,""Dark Croud."
Dealers:Stress groups background.

Record World / Hits Of The Week
"NATURAL GAS"Those who believed that the day of supergroup formations ended with Bad Company should make themselves aware of Natural Gas. With Joey Molland (Badfinger), Jerry Shirley (Humble Pie), Mark Clarke (Uriah Heep), and Peter Wood (Sutherlands & Quiver) as the primary components and Felix Pappalardi producing, the hit formula is there.

CASH BOX / Album Reviews
"Natural Gas" Covering some solid ground from rock to moving ballads and quite a bit in between this LP is indeed a natural gas! the rich sounds generated by the superb musicianship displayed herein are only made richer and more substantial by the production work of the rock master.Felix Pappalardi Both AM pop and FM progressive markets will find much to be pleased with here-"Little Darlin'" and "The Right Time"are both sure shots in the pop vein while the entire album will find a happy home on the progressive airwaves

George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

[bump]

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Listening to the first Greenslade album today, and it's amazing how many of the songs I can sing along with after not hearing it for nigh on 40 years! I'm liking it a lot better than I remembered I did in my post 9 years ago.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

sunkissed you're not; devil-kissed you are

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 September 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

the 1st song on greenslade's "spyglass guest" seemed instantly familiar when i 1st played that tecord, was it used as a tv theme or something?

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Monday, 3 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

*record

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Monday, 3 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link


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