That Motorik Beat

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hawkwind - opa loka. the most motorik non kraut record ever.

whitey - two face.

spencer otm about jagz kooner.

― stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Wait! This is getting too scattered! Related but scattered! Definition time!

― don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have a pretty rigid idea of motorik, so here goes:

4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

whoa, that looked a lot better pre-post.

basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Pumpkins "1979" does not fit, right?

― Aaron A., Monday, 14 February 2005 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

not according to the definition I'm using above. It almost does, but in the drum figure of "1979", there's a syncopation pattern that de-motorikizes it (and also makes two bars have to pass before completing the figure). One of the things about motorik that makes it "motorik" (or robotic) is that each measure is identical, it doesn't take more than one measure to complete the whole pattern.

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

hows that dleone

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

nice. i wasn't sure at first, but that fits my mental definition.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

from what i can hear the kick falls on every 8th note, including the 2 and 4. just straight ahead pounding. with various snare fills and a crash or two every 4 or 8 measures off that.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Drums On Fire" - Broadcast

― losingsoul, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jefferson Starship, "Find Your Way Back" (the end of the song)

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

"For Kate I Wait" - Ariel Pink (done with mouth)

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Telstar Ponies - Lugengeschichte or whatever the heck it was called has this beat but with added flourishes. Basically any non-Deutsche indie song circa 1994-95 with a German title.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

'Sleep The Clock Around' - Belle & Sebastian

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

"Mongoloid" by DEVO. ?

― Helltime Product Oh, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

post more!

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 14:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Glitter Band is the closest I've ever heard, so much so that I'm pretty sure La Dusseldorf ripped them off

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Quite a lot of bubblegum too, e.g., "Gimme Gimme Good Lovin'" by Crazy Elephant

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

whitey - two face

yes this is a great one.

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

OOIOO - BE SURE TO LOOP
OOIOO - OIZUMIO

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Omoide Hatoba - White Hour

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Boredoms - Super Roots 7 (Boriginal)

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can't remember which song it is, but one of the tracks offa Glenn Branca's Ascension certainly counts. It might be "Lesson #2."

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lesson #1 counts

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lesson #2 sounds like shit Sonic Youth

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

that fantastic instrumental track on die sterne's 'posen' album, the name of which i've forgotten right now.

wow, this thread has given me much food for thought!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Holger Hiller, Das Feuer

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

more motorik/'apache' (heh) talk: motorik

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh here it is, it's Glenn Branca's "Light Field (In Consonance)" off of Ascension.

Yeah, the Lesson #2 sounds like shit.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

Schneider TM opens his new album with a motorik diddy called "More Time" (also released as a single last year).

― willem -- (willem), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

also, "Now We Know" and esp. "Ridin'" from Pharoah Overlord's IV must be heard.

― willem -- (willem), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

I would like to point out that the original reason I posted this question was that I was making a mix CDR700MBGO! for my wife to listen to as she gave birth. (Apparently the kid liked it; he came right out to hear better.)

― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 7 July 2006 23:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

motorik cd to pop the baby out faster = genius

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Friday, 7 July 2006 23:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Joy Division "Isolation"

― Maltodextrin (Maltodextrin), Saturday, 8 July 2006 00:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how Burundi drums would've affected the whole process

― Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Saturday, 8 July 2006 01:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

here's Dominique's explanation of motorik re-formatted:

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 8 July 2006 01:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bardo Pond - Inside

― JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Saturday, 8 July 2006 02:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

snapper - everything (at least on the e.p. and "shotgun blossom")

― naturemorte (naturemorte), Saturday, 8 July 2006 18:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

just Justin - SexyBack

― oh, wrinklepaws! (Wrinklepaws), Sunday, 9 July 2006 01:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

fucking elegant

― Adam S S (Zephery), Sunday, 9 July 2006 04:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

Essex Green - Cardinal Points

― Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 9 July 2006 16:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

heigh-ho!

The Fall - "Before the Moon Falls", prhaps?

― Drugs A. Money, Friday, 10 October 2008 01:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

The "motorik" tag on last.fm is o_O

― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 01:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

also The Clean's "Point That Thing Somewhere Else" is an excellent example (sort of a bastard son of Hallogallo and Oh Yeah)

― Drugs A. Money, Friday, 10 October 2008 01:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

"Bruises and Change" by Lorrie Matheson (avail on eMu)
"Pric" by Super Furry Animals

I would like to point out that the original reason I posted this question was that I was making a mix CDR700MBGO!...

― Douglas (Douglas)

This is kinda my intention, too. Douglas, if you're still around, do you have the tracklisting for that CDR?

― I've got some funny ideas about what sounds good (staggerlee), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Kraftwerk - Ruckzuck

― Leu! (crüt), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 08:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cave - Hot Bricks

― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sugarloaf - Green Eyed Lady gets pretty motoriky at points

― dy (max) ia (crüt), Monday, 6 September 2010 01:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had a revelation with Green Eyed Lady while listening to it pumped over speakers at a gas station- take away the singing and it's really avant for the time.

― bendy, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

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― willem, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

Portishead - Chase the Tear

― anonanon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

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