even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

sounds like a zeppelin lyric

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/opinion/sunday/living-with-less-a-lot-less.html?_r=0

Oh duh that's over a year old.

Still, timeless quidagity.

I LIVE in a 420-square-foot studio. I sleep in a bed that folds down from the wall. I have six dress shirts. I have 10 shallow bowls that I use for salads and main dishes.

he forgot to include: 1 vest.

Jill Abramson got fired, effective immediately.

I hope she starts an explainer site.

maybe the wrong place for this but whaaaaa
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/fashion/modern-love-role-playing-Lets-Not-Pretend-to-Be-Who-We-Arent-.html

I know Julia Child isn’t French, but as we had just watched “Julie and Julia” the night before, I suppose she was on my mind that afternoon. It was a warm spring day and the sun shined through our bedroom window. For a few precious hours, our daughter was at someone else’s house, and my husband and I lay on the bed like lazy cats, alternately reading the newspaper and napping.

Something about the feeling of sun on skin seems to revitalize the bones and awaken the spirit, and soon we began caressing and kissing. I fell into my usual grateful silence, but then I decided to give Ms. Gabriel’s advice a try. I mustered all the courage I had, and then, gazing lovingly at the top of my husband’s head, I let rip a jovial, “Bon appétit!”

He looked up at me and groaned.

What in the...

dear new york times, this never happens to me but...

It sounds like she's in denial about being vanilla.

Lily White lives in Brooklyn, where she is a writer and saxophone player. She is currently working on a novel about the wedding industry.

lol

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/realestate/middle-class-finds-few-affordable-manhattan-apartments.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

“In New York, it’s not just the poor in Jacob Riis-type conditions who endure housing stress,” said Professor Lasner, 

Fascinating range of 'middle' incomes in this thing, and nary a mention of what median income in New York might actually be. It is actually crazy how unaffordable parts of Manhattan now are, obviously, so I don't mind the NYT noticing that (albeit without much attention to causes and real possible solutions) but clearly some of the sad, frustrated characters in that article are more sympathetic and less wilfully attached to a certain froufrou lifestyle in a certain spot than others. Much as I want to mock their horror at living in another borough, the couple they open with really should, in a just world, be able to stay in Manhattan for less than that.

500 square feet is fucking tiny for a family.

its funny that 100 years ago desperately poor european families immigrated to new york and lived in 500 square foot apartments and now... fairly wealthy people are having the same experience?

These residents fear, often correctly, that if they lose their current berth, they will be forced not just out of the borough but out of the city, a move that may result in a longer commute and less family time.

A real concern there at the end, but the supposed justification for it is nonsensical. Steps from Central Park? Yeah, well...pick another park, New York has 1700 of them.

With a big dog, too!

Doctor Casino OTM. But then also rmde:

“And nails, eyebrows — they’ve gone out the window,” Ms. Dormand said. “I use box hair dye. I eat dollar pizza, and I’ve learned to like it."

I mean on $110,000 for 2 ppl and a baby, I'm sure it's true that their lives aren't "fancy," at all! No one kill me please but that's not a lot of money to stretch to life in the "west 90s" unless you're a true pro at stretching one dollar into several. I've couch-surfed up there, groceries are mfing EXPENSIVE at nearby stores. BUT THEN THEY NEED TO NOT LIVE STEPS FROM CENTRAL PARK IN THE WEST 90S.

xp lolololololololol

Also I feel like they were trying to make this poor woman sound like a complete ding dong here:

On May 11, Ms. Ordelheide packed up her guitar, banjo and other possessions, and set off for a cottage in Pompano Beach, Fla. — monthly rent, $1,345.

that is 5 dollars cheaper than my new york city 1br rent

Yeah, citing $1300 as some kind of shockingly cheap rent is classic quidag.

io you should contact that woman and tell her you'll do her nails at a discount.

What can we do? We must live our lives. [A pause] Yes, we shall live, Uncle Vanya. We shall live through the long procession of days before us, and through the long evenings; we shall patiently bear the trials that fate imposes on us; we shall work for others without rest, both now and when we are old; and when our last hour comes we shall meet it humbly, and there, beyond the grave, we shall say that we have suffered and wept, that our life was bitter, and God will have pity on us.

That woman is the person I try to avoid everywhere I go in this city (and why I stopped going to parties on the UES entirely). Twenty-somethings living in high-rise apts that are basically dorms now in a sanitized area full of ppl like themselves; sterile white boxes relieved only by flowered bedspreads and Vera Bradley totes and the fact that there's a koi pond in the lobby and a "fitness center" somewhere.

They'll get married and move to Park Slope in a few years and they'll be like "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" and have two babies and few years after that they'll buy a house near their parents in Connecticut.

A+ slam on Vera Bradley bags

hasn't the upper east side always been like that?

110 k seems kinda low for greenpoint

xxp I know it's going to be a good day when I can work one in before 10am.

if you are young, willingly spending a high % of your income to live in the cool part of town is arguably justifiable, since your rent and entertainment budget are overlapping on some level, but if you're doing this by the time you're raising a family you're just an idiot. still if they weren't in manhattan I am sure they would be buying mcmansions and SUVs somewhere else that they also couldn't afford.

I have conflicting feelings about the family! On the one hand, they are idiots, and screw them for thinking they need to live steps away from Central Park and then complaining about how much it costs. On the other hand, fuck all the bullshit reasons that it is so expensive to live close to where they work and steps from Central Park. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to spend a large percentage of your day traveling to and from work.

Just you know ban capitalism.

Or intervene in the market, revive federal housing programs, revive Mitchell-Lama, build more rail lines and plant more trees, I don't know.

That's cool, too.

eh my commute is 30 mins door to door, depending on where you work parts of jersey / the boroughs actually have shorter commutes than some manhattan to manhattan. esp since the cheapest parts of manhattan are the furthest from public transit.

I recently tried to get from West 72nd to East 51st Street and it took me almost as long as commuting from Bed-Stuy! Depending on your exact commute, there's no guarantee that you don't spend at least 90 minutes a day in transit already. If that has to go up by 20 minutes but your rent goes down $1000 or more, do a CBA and let's move on.

Just you know ban capitalism.

― carl agatha, Monday, June 2, 2014 1:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or intervene in the market, revive federal housing programs, revive Mitchell-Lama, build more rail lines and plant more trees, I don't know.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, June 2, 2014 1:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ilx otm

where the fuck can i buy this dollar pizza

They'll get married and move to Park Slope in a few years and they'll be like "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" and have two babies and few years after that they'll buy a house near their parents in Connecticut.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, June 2, 2014 9:27 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol otm

the number of nytimes articles that are based on the theme of "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" is astounding

you can buy dollar pizza on like every street in manhattan

it all tastes exactly the same but is often better than non-dollar slices because it hasn't been sitting under a heat lamp for 6 hours

I wonder what fucking year the NYT will notice that no one can afford a non-anxious lifestyle in Brooklyn either.

unless you know you are RICH (by io's def, have a bagel store in yr nabe)

move to queens

too tired

as much as new york is overpriced there are still exponentially more 'nice areas to live' here in 2014 than any other city in america

like if you are priced out of san francisco you are fucked

have to admit that 75% of the time i don't know why anyone lives in NY