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bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

I foolishly thought that was going to be a light brown tshirt with some kind of golf design element.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/teenager-asked-leave-prom-dads-complain-she-sons-214651537.html#yPSioFS

Teenager asked to leave prom after dads complain she would give sons ‘impure thoughts’

A 17-year-old student from the US state of Virginia has told how she was asked to leave her prom when dads chaperoning the event said that she would give the boys ‘impure thoughts’.

The 17-year-old, identified only as Clare, went to the prom for homeschooled students last week. Upon arrival, she says, she was challenged on the length of her dress. After proving that it fit the criteria, she was allowed entry.

She says that once she joined her friends, she was “grossed out” by dads “ogling” them. She says she was approached by an organiser shortly afterwards.

She took me into a corner in the hall way, with another woman, (who I’m assuming was a parent/chaperone) and told me that some of the dads who were chaperoning had complained that my dancing was too provocative, and that I was going to cause the young men at the prom to think impure thoughts. At this point I said to her that I hadn’t been dancing at all!

She says that security were called and asked to remove her. Her friends, who left with her, were denied a refund.

Clare says in the blog post that she is upset for a number of reasons, but highlights the attitude towards womens’ bodies.

“I was told that the way I dressed and moved my body was causing men to think inappropriately about me, implying that it is my responsibility to control other people’s thoughts and drives.

I am so tired of people who abuse their power to make women feel violated and ashamed because she has an ass, or has breasts, or has long legs.

She adds that if anyone at the event, which was organised by parents of homeschooled teenagers in the area, had impure thoughts, she is not responsible.

I’m only 17, but I can see there’s something wrong about this, please, please tell me I’m not the only one who think it doesn’t matter how people are dressed or how they move their bodies, we should still treat them with respect and decency. And enough with the slut shaming.

I’m not responsible for some perverted 45 year old dad lusting after me because I have a sparkly dress on and a big ass for a teenager. And if you think I am, then maybe you’re part of the problem.

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:11 (nine years ago) link

Teenager OTM.

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:11 (nine years ago) link

homeschoolers

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:13 (nine years ago) link

Apparently she's homeschooled too though, if she went to that prom? Anyway, I wish all teenage girls were as smart and lucid as her.

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link

of all the wishes that story could inspire yours seems misplaced and disparaging of other teenage girls.

estela, Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link

that girl seems really smart. i hope the organizers feel humiliated by her lucid takedown of why they are shitheads but they probably don't even understand what she is saying

Treeship, Thursday, 15 May 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link

The phrasing "impure thoughts' makes me think this was a religious fundamentalist type of homeschooling event.

back-up duck (doo dah), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link

^^

there are evangelical homeschoolers and there are liberal hippie homeschoolers. they are very different/

marcos, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

i assumed it was an event for all types of homeschoolers & the conflict arose when the liberal hippe girl showed up and there were way too many evangelical parents running the show

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

meaning it prob wasnt promoted as an evangelical churchy thing & she was blindsided by attitudes a lot of other kids there have grown up around

still shitty & terrible no matter the explication

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

of all the wishes that story could inspire yours seems misplaced and disparaging of other teenage girls.

Sorry, that was badly worded, I didn't mean to say "other teenage girls are dumb" rather than "I'm so happy this teenage girl sees things they way they are".

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

And yeah, regardless of who were the target group of the prom party, I just find it incredible that this sort of Medieval level approach of gender (the sin is in the woman, it's her fault if we're drooling over her) still exists!

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link

it so exists

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

stupid sexy teens ruining my chaperoning

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link

meaning it prob wasnt promoted as an evangelical churchy thing & she was blindsided by attitudes a lot of other kids there have grown up around

except it's her fourth year going to the same prom

pick it up for ripple laser (onimo), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

did it say that in the article?

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

http://www.hannahettinger.com/fuck-the-patriarchy-guest-post-by-clare/

I joined my group of friends, (there were six of us), and told them what happened, they were all appalled, especially considering we’ve been attending this prom all four years of high school and usually wore much shorter dresses then we chose this year.

pick it up for ripple laser (onimo), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link

oic she says so in her blog post xpost

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

my prom date ended up being the valedictorian of the grade below me

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

did she make you think impure thoughts tho

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

i never knew you could attend more than prom!

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

this was nine years ago. she didn't even come to the afterparty

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

xpost

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

i should post pictures to facebook sometime

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

embarass all my hs friends. anyway, back to more important things

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

i never knew you could attend more than prom!

oh yeah, of course you can; the school may limit their automatic invite list to a particular class (mine was juniors/seniors) but anyone is allowed in as a date

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

I went to both junior and senior prom

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Me too.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

A friend pointed out that the new youtube ad campaign is all about women doing makeup and baking cupcakes

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

lol true

Nhex, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah they're pretty despicable. "be you! choose: baking, shopping, or makeup."

ryan, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

I just find it incredible that this sort of Medieval level approach of gender (the sin is in the woman, it's her fault if we're drooling over her) still exists!

kinda h8 u for not having to grow up in the repressed, evil, damaging environment that i did

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

(i actually <3 u but i am incredibly envious)

smhphony orchestra (crüt), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

It's very frustrating, especially as the father of a daughter, that in an era where women get the majority of college and graduate degrees (or something close to that), this is still what gets pushed on them (the youtube ads).

Also toddler girls' clothing is pinker than ever with as many hearts, birds and flowers crammed onto it as possible, while boys' clothing is full of trucks, spaceships and monsters.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

For reference:

http://www.tubefilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/subway-ads-youtube-bethany.jpg

TBF, one of the six is at least gender-neutral I guess? (fighting bullies or w/e). At first I was like "oh, one of them has a superhero uniform" and then I realized that one is also about cupcakes.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

And even the bully one is "with style" and the confidence one makes reference to "accessories" and involves making a heart with her hands.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

my niece had her Senior Ball this weekend. She got sent home for 'excessive cleavage'. as far as I could see from the group photos her cleavage was no worse than other girls, it's just she has a bigger chest than anyone her age.

i don't think schools really think about better ways to handle this kind of stuff. especially waiting for her to arrive at the ball with all of her friends and then have her get sent home like some pariah on what is supposed to be a lovely night

I get sending kids home for being drunk or high but ... idk

the puritanism of it is really fucked up

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

completely fucked up

marcos, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's downright sick imo. where is that?

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

So fucked up! Did they just frog-march her or was there a 'discussion'?

baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

I read this thread from the bottom up and thought the last three were about Jill Abramson.

That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

idk exactly how it went down. I haven't talked to her in person to find out what happened...didn't want to press her for details at the time since I figured she'd be pretty upset and embarrassed.

this was in one of Sac's northern suburbs. Known for being kinda conservative but still. I never knew they would take it that far.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 May 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

lol @ eazy

balls, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

that totally fucking sucks, VG. what a stupid awful humiliating thing to do to a teenage girl at her prom :/

just1n3, Thursday, 15 May 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

I would be so pissed off if that was my kid.

how's life, Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

Srsly I would be chewing the head off of the principal right now

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

how horrible for your poor niece, vg. it seemed completely absurd and anachronistic when the elderly nuns at my school carried on like this and that was years ago, and they were elderly nuns. (nuns who said among many other things that girls have always to set the sexual standards because boys cannot control themselves in the slightest, and you can only get raped if you allow your muscles to relax sufficiently to enable penetration at which point you are sinning because you obviously must want it to happen otherwise you'd stay chastely clamped up and god is vigilantly monitoring your muscles so even if you claim to be a victim you won't get away with it in the long run.)

estela, Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

jfc

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link


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