2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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marc cooper, yesterday:

McCrater
For those who have been asking why on earth Barack Obama doesn't have a ten point lead in this race it seems that the wait is finally over.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll of likely voters shows Barack Obama now leading John Mcain 53-42% nationwide.

This is a whopper, perhaps, definitive lead. Frankly, it's no surprise to me as I've been predicting this for weeks.

Hand-wringing liberals who believe only they can see through the crap can't see that others see exactly what they see: an incompetent, dishonest and disastrous Republican administration which they have NO intention of providing a third term.

The granular breakdown of this latest poll looms as no less than an electoral Waterloo for John McCain and his ridiculous running mate who has now completed her 26th day as nominee for VP without meeting with the press. At this rate, she may never get the chance.

"goole" (goole), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

so this is basically 'the dog ate my debate prep' rite

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

too many uses of the word "see"

Mohammed Butt (max), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean god forbid the president have to deal with two things at once, right.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i hope obama's move is to not say anything and then have the dems unleash a final version of dodd's proposal tomorrow or something and be all "wait what? mccain tried to suspend the campaign? sorry we were just like... fixing the economy..."

Mohammed Butt (max), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile;
So ere you find where light in darkness lies,
Your light grows dark by losing of your eyes.

xxp

"goole" (goole), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

O's gotta thread the needle here: it's plausible that Bush is gonna rep for the original bailout tonight, then McCain will come out solidly against it to differentiate himself from Bush on something Serious.

so how to play this?

the missing boy (Euler), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

ignore it, and, if pressed, scoff

Mohammed Butt (max), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

except he already came out in favor of the bailout this morning. we talked about that possibility last nite xp

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Congress isn't gonna go for Bush's original plan, no matter what. This comes down to whether or not Dubya will accept compromise and what exactly Dodd, Frank et al hammer out.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

(and frankly it looks to me like the possibility of a veto-proof majority in congress is possible, given how unpopular Dubya is)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ last line here is how 2 respond

"goole" (goole), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

obama's sure going to look bad when mccain fixes the economy though

haaaa

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8976/palinol3.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

u want some fudge hon?

////////YAY\\\\\\\\ (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

guhhaahhh i do i do want some fudge thank you sarah palin

////////YAY\\\\\\\\ (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ pix

"goole" (goole), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

(Paulson's given up opposing limits on executives golden parachutes btw)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Rug looks nice tho. Can't say I'm a fan of glass coffee tables.

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

what is that a map of? calais? the netherlands? basque country? buffalo? onion dip?

"goole" (goole), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

his prostate

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the awesome transfer of foreign policy cred from war criminal to caribou barbie would be more impressive if it wasn't happening in my grandparents living room

and what, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

No grandparents have a phone that up to date.

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

your grandparents have a lot of pictures of nixon!!

Mohammed Butt (max), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the awesome transfer of foreign policy cred from war criminal to caribou barbie would be more impressive if it wasn't happening in my grandparents living room

― and what, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haaaa

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind the table and I think I might actually like the rug but the color of the sofas shows a remarkable lack of judgment.

Michael White, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw a bit of Obama's press conference over lunch. He seemed pretty adamant that the debate(s) would still happen and somewhat at a loss to explain McCain's behavior.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind the table and I think I might actually like the rug but the color of the sofas shows a remarkable lack of judgment.

so did intervention in latin american politics!!! LOLOLOLOL

Mohammed Butt (max), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

dunk'd

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

K-Lo:

Obama is on TV right now.

Some of this is a lot of nonsense, but if I’m just getting home from work and I only pay casual attention to these debates, Obama sounds reasonable and less gimmicky than McCain.

He says that there is no reason why we can’t do more than one thing at once. Obama says it is "more important than ever" to have a debate.

Obama says he called McCain this morning and announced that he wanted to do a no-politics-as-usual joint statement about addressing the market mess. He says that McCain wanted to insist on meeting with the president and congressional leaders too. Obama says Obama said: Let’s do the statement, go from there. Obama says he thought McCain was thinking about the joint statement, working on with staff, when McCain went on TV. So now Obama is on TV.

Obama says he's told Pelosi, Reid, and Paulson that "if I can be helpful, I am prepared to be [in dc] anytime" but I don’t want to infuse presidential politics on the hill and goes on about how presidents need to be able to multitask.

Obama may win this campaign moment yet. If McCain protests, he looks petty.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

obama says mccain proposed this to him this morning, he countered by saying "let's get a joint statement of what we want in a bailout package out there first", then mccain showed up on tv declaring "suspension" while their staffs were off still trying to work out the joint statement.

akm, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost I guess that I says the same thing I just said

akm, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2007/04/kathryn-jean-lopez.jpg

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Sullivan: "He'll be there for the debate. McCain, er, blinks. It's the difference between a leader and an hysteric."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

an hysteric, or a hysteric? i dont get sullivan's accent, its like some weird hybrid

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Sullivan could skip the mildly sexist hysteric talk and just call McCain a fucking coward.

the missing boy (Euler), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

that pic is k-lo blinking btw

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Men don't get hysterical?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

have you ever seen me when my tie gets stained?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh NRO readers:

"Since Obama Seems to Want to Go On with the Debate. Many readers relay that they'd like McCain to just offer Palin step in for him."

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

[Origin: 1650–60; < L hystericus < Gk hysterikós, suffering in the womb, hysterical (reflecting the Greeks' belief that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances in the uterus)

Michael White, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

So basically grandpaw needs a week long nap so picks the most divisive issue of the decade to suspend the campaign over?

The Fjord is Full of Swans (Ed), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the term "hysterical" rubs me the wrong way because it means crazy but its root is the greek word for womb. So it reinforces the "women be crazy" idea that I loathe.

the missing boy (Euler), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh NRO readers:

"Since Obama Seems to Want to Go On with the Debate. Many readers relay that they'd like McCain to just offer Palin step in for him."

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:15 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what a beautiful gift to the nation that would be

////////YAY\\\\\\\\ (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't even figure out what that quote is trying to say

akm, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

like I said, this is McCain flaming out

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

omg:

Jonah;

I think McCain should show up for the debate looking reluctant and disheveled. He could apologize for this condition, saying he had to rush back from doing the nation’s business. He could be like Grant having to apologize to the impeccably dressed Lee at Appomattox for showing up all muddy and in an old private’s coat. There was, after all, a war that needed winning.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

akm, that Palin would debate Obama on Foreign Policy apparently.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i36.tinypic.com/s4rzhf.jpg

huffposts headlines have improved 500% in the last month

////////YAY\\\\\\\\ (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link


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