was gonna post a floyd gif to back up my point but, uh, I think it's too early to go there
― Euler, Friday, 28 February 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link
how did I forget how awesome Saucerful of Secrets is
RULES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
So is it just gonna be a judgment call when it comes to voting for those "of a piece" songs?
I'm leaning towards "Brain Damage/Eclipse" as one song, after reading these arguments.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
VG otm. "Saucerful" and "Set The Controls" definitely on my ballot.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Grady, were you asking about "zabriskie sessions" for the track votes or for the bootleg album votes? cuz if the former, I think Elvis gave you the wrong answer.
official tracks:
Crumbling LandCome In Number 51, Your Time Is Up,Heart Beat, Pig Meat
bootleg album tracks:
http://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-A-Total-Zabriskie-Point-Of-View-The-Complete-Collection/release/3225898
if I understand correctly, any of these individual songs could also be voted for in a tracks ballot, as per Elvis' ruling on unreleased songs
this is good because I might vote for "Rain in The Country"
sorry for pedantry
― sleeve, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
ah, thank you! yeah i am more concerened with specific tracks, that seemed like a strange answer
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
345-way Tie
(1.) ALL OF THEM - 164 votes, 164 first-place votes
THEY ALL RULE
― pplains, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
I'm not sure that all of Ummagumma, which I'm currently listening to, does in fact rule.
― silverfish, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
pplains otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 February 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
the live part rules xp
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
Live Ummagumma disc is tremendous.
Also, Pompeii "Echoes" rules supremely over the studio version, which is fine, but doesn't bring the funk in the midsection.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 February 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah, the live disc definitely rules
the studio disc has its moments (David Gilmore's songs aren't bad and I've always enjoyed Several Species of Small Furry etc.), but overall I think there is a good reason why today was the first time I listened to it in probably 10+ years.
― silverfish, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link
if I understand correctly, any of these individual songs could also be voted for in a tracks ballot, as per Elvis' ruling on unreleased songsthis is good because I might vote for "Rain in The Country"
I realize I wasn't clear enough... Yes, the unreleased tracks are fair game.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link
Is anyone planning on voting for "Brain Damage" and "Eclipse" as two separate and distinctly tabulated tracks? If not, let's treat them as one.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link
Three ballots in so far.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link
Never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw4sYDQesAg&feature=kp
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 February 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
would it count as trolling this poll if I voted for "One Slip"? because ~I might~
― Euler, Friday, 28 February 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link
xp pvmic
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 February 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
def voting for "On The Turning Away"
― Euler, Friday, 28 February 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
Townshend's demo is slightly less bombastic:http://youtu.be/oZGI7JdZBck(and apparently Gilmour only used the lyrics, and set them to his own music)
xxp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 February 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
the studio disc has its moments
Grantchester Meadows will be high on my ballot.
― KCB (Kent Burt), Saturday, 1 March 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link
My best friend pimps for "One Slip." He exploits my love for Roxy Music.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 March 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link
One Slip has Tony Levin on bass
the fretless throughout the album is tasty: eg the little nudges in "On the Turning Away"
"On the Turning Away" isn't miles from "Hey You" (fretless again?) but no weird Waters vocal interlude is a plus
― Euler, Saturday, 1 March 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link
'momentary lapse' was terribly calculated (ugh the cover), but as a 14yo it was pretty much what i wanted -- glacial synths, big comfortably numb solos, no waters awkwardly muttering about anzio. i'm not too likely to vote for it, but i shan't disown it
happy to say i have never heard anything from the division bell tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
iirc, Gilmour only revived "Pink Floyd" because his solo sales were disappointing, and he (correctly) reasoned that he'd sell a lot more under the Floyd name. It's not like he had a burning desire to work with Mason or Wright -- not that he worked with them on Momentary Lapse for more than 10 minutes anyway.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link
I feel like Division Bell is a bridge too far for me.
Yeah I'm kind in the same boat as mookie w/r/t Momentary Lapse, 'Learning to Fly' was the first Pink Floyd song I knew and the boy I had a crush on at the time made ma copy of the album on cassette <3 lol. Doubtful I'd vote for it, lot of much better stuff to fill the 20 slots
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link
*me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:20 (ten years ago) link
glacial synths, big comfortably numb solos[
I think of this as a genre---Queensyrche, Mike and the Mechanics, eg---about which i am, shall we say, ambivalent
― Euler, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
presumably you are not 14 years old?
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link
I've also never listened to The Division Bell but I'm gonna give it a try. I like High Hopes
― Euler, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:37 (ten years ago) link
"High Hopes" may just squeak in on my 20.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:43 (ten years ago) link
i sort of shudder at the thought of giving momentary lapse a fresh listen before voting but i suppose i should.
iirc i did like "one slip" at the time (though it would be a couple years before manzanera meant anything to me) and also the guitar on "sorrow" but i hated "learning to fly" then and don't expect to like it now.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:11 (ten years ago) link
oh jesus this is terrible. might be better without lyrics.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:15 (ten years ago) link
okay "on the turning away" has some nice playing but the lyrics are balls and it's just "comfortably numb" lite. weird to me that there are thousands of guitar dudes out there chasing this tone.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link
i kinda like that one too :/
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:27 (ten years ago) link
fwiw i can live with "sorrow" though again please stop singing words
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link
coincidentally heard Learning to Fly on the radio yesterday. actually sounded... bearable. i'll have to listen through MLOR just for old time's sake. absolutely none of the songs will make my ballot though.
― charlie h, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link
hey i can liveblog the division bell too if you guys want
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link
there but for the grace of god etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link
i got plenty of time for the DB actually.
― charlie h, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:34 (ten years ago) link
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2014/02/16/17-truedetective2.o.jpg/a_560x375.jpg
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:55 (ten years ago) link
it's just "comfortably numb" lite. weird to me that there are thousands of guitar dudes out there chasing this tone.
it's like i don't even know you
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:00 (ten years ago) link
It's really hard to think of most of the Dark Side of the Moon as being separate tracks, as the instrumental pieces are so well orchestrated in how they segue from one piece to the next.
Speak to Me/Breathe/On the RunTime/Great Gig in the SkyMoneyUs & Them/Any Color You like Brain Damage/Eclipse
And really Us & Them to Eclipse to me runs as one big piece really well.
Time you got the clocks which breaks up things. You flip the side on the LP and/or the cash register kind of breaks it up at Money, but man the rest just goes.
― earlnash, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:19 (ten years ago) link
u forgot breathe (reprise)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:20 (ten years ago) link
also you are generally rong, no offense
Division Bell has some great space-rock production (I love the first minute of "Keep Talking," for example), but the songwriting and those ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ATROCIOUS vocals sink it. Their worst album.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:32 (ten years ago) link
i don't know, i was really drunk at the time
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:49 (ten years ago) link
btw i'm gonna name my next cat 'dick parry'
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:54 (ten years ago) link
weird to me that there are thousands of guitar dudes out there chasing this tone.
During the recording of About Face, Gilmour swapped out his Floyd-era effects and amps for a "modernized" chain of Boss effects and those 80s-era Fender amps and (gack) Mesa Boogies. The same rig continued into AMLOR where the main guitar was one of those headless Steinbergers.
Gilmour has mentioned that he'd like to do a new mix of AMLOR with "the 80s mixed out of it." Maybe some distant reissue...
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:56 (ten years ago) link
per the (amazing) propeller heads at gilmourish it was fenders and a solid-state gallien-krueger for the recording. the mesas didn't come out until he toured on it (so you can hear them on A Delicate Sound of Thunder). he never gave up the strat/muff/hiwatt thing tho.
btw tbqh i'm totally coming around on Boss pedals lately. simple, cheap, easily replaceable, no screwdriver required if you run batteries and they sound plenty good enough for any room I'd ever play. I'm tired of playing the boutique game maaaaan.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 March 2014 06:18 (ten years ago) link