Israel to World: "Suck It."

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One of the major players in the worldwide drug industry is Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, Ltd., an Israeli company. According to its website, Teva fills 1 out of every 6 generic prescriptions in the US and Canada. Generic drugs, in 2012, made up 84% of all prescriptions filled in the US. So in the US, 14% of all prescriptions were filled by an Israeli company. If you live in the US and you bought 7 prescription drugs over the course of the year, chances are that one of them was made by Teva.

Mordy , Friday, 21 February 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Israel to World: "Swallow It."

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 21 February 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

On the mess that is currently going on at my school, which has now escalated to companies bullying institutions of higher learning. *sigh*

(note: as I am both an employee of the university as well as a student, I didn't get to vote in this)

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2014/03/12/engineering-firm-threatens-to-cut-ties-to-u-of-w-over-isreal-divestment-issue/

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link

That referendum was passed when 758 undergraduates voted in favor of the boycott, 585 voted against it and 10 voted “none of the above” out of a student population of 14,000.

Hmm

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

Engineering firm's response is outrageous, obviously

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

Well he would say that wouldn't he?

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 13 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

so unfair that universities can't boycott other countries universities without consequences.

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link

“I am reasonably certain that the majority … of this small percentage of the student body are of the Muslim faith, which promotes violence and hatred toward the Jews in the Middle East.”

I'd like to think they'd feel obliged to cut ties after this anyway

ogmor, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

So unfair that countries can't illegally build settlements in occupied territories without consequences.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

If BDS's platform was exclusively about the settlements id agree w your analogy

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link

I don't even support BDS and I think the university needs to set a minimum turnout if its referenda are to mean anything but (a) it's false and predictable for Netanyahu to call it plain anti-semitism and (b) it's obnoxious for a corporation to describe muslims in those terms while trying to bully a university into overruling a student vote.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

x-post: Yeah, I don't agree with BDS either. Followed a few links in the new articles, the leaders definitely say some worrying stuff. But the main reason BDS is in the spotlight in a country like Denmark is because of the settlements.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link

I agree w/ Bibi that 1. BDS is committed to the dissolution of Israel as the Jewish State, and that 2. Trying to destroy the Jewish State of Israel counts as an antisemitic act. I think there's room to disagree w/ those two points without being antisemitic, but I don't think it's 'false' (tho probably 'predictable') for Netanyahu to call it anti-semitism.

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

"Some supporters of the movement see it as a way to put pressure on Israel to end illegal settlements in the territories occupied in the 1967 war;

But opposing settlements alone, does not make one an anti-semite (as was discussed above)

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

Of course, I agree that you can oppose settlements without being an anti-semite. I think someone could even support BDS without hating Jews (and indeed, there has always been Jewish resistance to the state of Israel even pre-1948). But I do believe the BDS movement is an anti-semitic movement and that anti-semitism primarily motivates the majority of its participants. That's my impression from listening to BDS proponents, reading pro-BDS blogs (and their readerships), etc.

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:32 (ten years ago) link

In one of those articles in the Guardian, a BDS-leader talks about a one-state solution that is 'secular' and 'democratic'. Which seems obvious dogwhistle-stuff to me. A one-state with elections would quickly become an islamic state, I think.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link

However, the response from the engineering firm is obviously islamophobic, openly islamophobic.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link

You can have nothing against Jewishness and not think there should be a Jewish state. Plenty of Jews feel the same way.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

and indeed, there has always been Jewish resistance to the state of Israel even pre-1948

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

I know antisemitism can be hard to detect but "anti-semitism primarily motivates the majority of its participants" is v far from my experience & when ppl state the possibility of supporting boycotts w/out being antisemitic like it's a concession or debatable I'm always a little doubtful of their judgement

ogmor, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

tho i wouldn't call it "plenty." the vast majority of jews support israel as a jewish state and even 99% of oppositional charedim fell in line after 1948 (neuturi karta being the only exception). xp

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

ogmor, I wonder if you read Electronic Intifada and Mondoweiss?

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

I have never read either

ogmor, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

I think those are probably the two most visible pro-BDS communities at least in the anglosphere and both engage regularly in horrific anti-semitism particularly re conspiracies (look at Mondoweiss recent discussions of how Israel and the Jews are orchestrating the situation in Ukraine to get a real sense of BDS psychosis).

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Jews should take advantage of the tumult to claim a second Jewish state in the Crimea. It's not fair that we can only have one Jewish state.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

It goes without saying that the Arabic press is stunningly anti-semitic as well, which goes without saying. Cartoons published in the UK pan-Arabic Al Quds al Arabi recently include:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ogAZvPTZMtA/Uxxl5AWhLYI/AAAAAAAAcqw/Rrp_T2_Suh0/s1600/quds1.jpg

and

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YwkDM_3RAUs/Uxxl56I7XGI/AAAAAAAAcrA/PagWiodVuTs/s1600/quds4.jpg

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

if it really went without saying obvs i wouldn't have to repeat it so much lol

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

By "plenty" I didn't mean a large percentage, just that there have been prominent anti-zionist Jewish voices. I'm thinking more of secular Jews like Tony Judt, who advocated a one-state solution. xps

o. nate, Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.mrdrybones.com/blog/D14223_3.gif

Mordy , Thursday, 13 March 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

There are enough anti-semities in the BDS movement to make me deeply uncomfortable about it but not enough to tar the whole movement as such. Which I know sounds like watery liberal equivocation but there you go. I think critics of Israeli policy need to be a hell of a lot firmer about distancing themselves from the bigots. The fact that Gilad Atzmon is still cited as one of the good guys makes me think that's not going to happen for a long time.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I don't doubt that anti-semitism gives the BDS movement a bit of extra sizzle. It seems to attract a following out of proportion to other human-rights based boycott campaigns.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

xp mordy
I don't doubt it. obv anything on Israel will attract these people, the boycott movement being focused & punitive especially, but people I've met who are involved have all also been involved w/ other political/humanitarian/human rights causes. it seems like it's obviously the audience BDS is courting.

ogmor, Thursday, 13 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

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ⓢⓗⓘⓣ (am0n), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Rolling MENA 2014

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Oh man, Bibi is SO aspie.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Want to make a Morbius joke, but the best I can get is "how fast could i KO this chickenshit hillbibi?"

how's life, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

YOU'RE A LIIIIIAR

The Obama administration on Wednesday accused the Israeli government of misleading the public over the Iran nuclear negotiations, using unusually blunt and terse language that once again highlighted the rift between the two sides.

In briefings with reporters, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki and White House spokesman Josh Earnest suggested Israeli officials were not being truthful about how the United States is handling the secretive talks.

“I think it is safe to say not everything you are hearing from the Israeli government is an accurate reflection of the details of the talks,” said Psaki, who acknowledged that the State Department is withholding some details from the Israelis out of concern they will share them more broadly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-officials-in-blunt-language-say-israel-is-distorting-reality-of-iran-talks/2015/02/18/94556d5e-b7a7-11e4-a200-c008a01a6692_story.html

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

suddenly you believe what the white house says? convenient.

Mordy, Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awY1MRlMKMc

how's life, Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

oh they're only upset about dishonesty bcz it involves theit realpolitik stratagems; dead kids are still fine though

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

obv they're upset bc they are afraid of the negotiations failing. it doesn't matter anyway, presumably they're referring to the report from israel that EU participants claimed the current offer was lifting sanctions and no limitations on centrifuges in exchange for iranian participation in "regional stability." we'll know soon enough (by the end of March) whether that's true or not. i assume obama cannot sell any deal (to P5+1 or the american public) that doesn't contain iranian concessions. i'm guessing... some level of sanctions regime? it would have to deal w/ Arak, Parchin, etc.

Mordy, Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

meh, Iran and US always be shoutin at the table, shakin hands under it

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

in case you ever wondered, "that netanyahu, is he really a piece of shit?":

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/world/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-elections-arabs.html

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

not really.. was always pretty sure about it

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

well, yeah. but the blatant racism of his latest comments peel off whatever was left of the mask.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

wtf is wrong with israelis?

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:31 (nine years ago) link

i suppose this is how my european friends felt when the US reelected bush.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link

Well, there are very few European countries, where the leaders haven't won an election through islamophobia recently. So we know the drill from ourselves.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 07:24 (nine years ago) link


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