lists w/ explanations &c. infinitely preferable to polls
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
obviously there's room for both & its good to hear from ppl who feel happier voting in polls & get a senae of the lay of ilxland, but the all-time poll is so byzantine it feels like an absurdist critique of ilx poll culture
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
yep
― sleeve, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
"so byzantine" is a fair criticism. but just from scanning the spreadsheet of nominations, i've already preliminarily explored, and added to my itunes "wish list," half-a-dozen albums. that type of discovery is all i'm hoping for through this exercise.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
LJ's idea of a v restricted ballot appealed to me tho. Wld enjoy seeing ilxors making a case for ten favs or something in any format
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
A shame he would need to wait 3 years then
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
Anyway Im bored of arguing about this so no more on this from me. Polls already off anyway. Classic rock poll is starting soon so invest your energies in that instead of arguing over rules and other shit.
― ۩, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
someone w/ coding skills cld create a permanent, fluid ilx top 100/500/1k albums which users cld submit/edit ballots towards to give you an ever-changing manifestation of ilx's collective tastes, tho it wld lack the declarative finality of a roll-out & wld be trickier to feel proprietorial about
― ogmor, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
this is a good idea ^^^^^^^^^, with something to allow those who've already voted to swap albums in-and-out, but not cast multiple votes.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 16 February 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that actually feels like an interesting idea
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
ILX's very own RYM account.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 16 February 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
there's this magazine called sight & sound, right, and every 10 years they do a list of the best films OF ALL TIME, it's silly and useful and interesting and pointless and whatever, but they manage to do it despite such an exercise being impossibly "byzantine". Although I'm sure every time it almost gets derailed by some critics going "but we're already doing a feature on the top 10 italian horror movies this year wtf".
Anyway I don't see why this couldn't be something like that, it would be crazy and fun and I'd enjoy reading lists of people's favourite records ever and why they love them. I wouldn't be devastated if it didn't happen, but I hope it does and it does seem like a different kind of thing to the narrower-focus polls. That is my important opinion.
― Internet Alas (wins), Sunday, 16 February 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
idgif tbh. if it had kicked off parallel to an artist poll it probably would have been nbd but the "classic rock" poll has been coming for a long time and has a similar gonzo hodgepodge vibe (at least in theory).
anyway I'm looking forward to the opportunity to vote for head east and duke jupiter in something
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 16 February 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
basically Doctor Casino otm on all points. "all albums ever" and "all classic rock hits ever" are too big (and in that sense similar) to run at the same time. a few months between them is reasonable. so, is the classic rock poll happening? (sorry if I missed something)
― g simmel, Monday, 17 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
yeah it is
― Waluigi Weingarten (some dude), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/57/57edc1349db42b32d2baf3642ea8f050930186de9387b0a118caa92567ac678d.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
lol VG
― lewd, pulsating rhythm 4 lyfe (WilliamC), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
idgi ._.
― eeeLectrelane (Leee), Monday, 17 February 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link
bill magill's gonna freak
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 February 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
there was no devo poll?
― ۩, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link
I honestly thought viceroy had done one. Mustve been a standard ilx poll
― ۩, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
POLLing and turning, how can I sleep?: The Roxy Music & Bryan Ferry Results Thread
― charlie h, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:59 (ten years ago) link
can i get a spot at the end of the line for a misfits/samhain/danzig poll? or would nobody care about that..?
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Grady, can I go out and poll tonight?
― how's life, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Gonna post a new full list with 107/They Might Be Giants/Johnny Fever and gr8080's request, but first I want to check -- Sarahell, were you officially putting yourself on the list for No Wave or just gauging interest? And Van Horn Street, ditto for DFA.
― needs more garlic → (WilliamC), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
i will volunteer to run DFA instead of danzig if VHS doesn't want to
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
paging sarahell, also paging some dude (or paging Elvis Telecom if you're too busy)
Actually, if Classic Rock is going to have a lengthy nominations period before voting, Floyd could run concurrently.
― Taking Devil's Tower (by mashed potatoes) (WilliamC), Friday, 21 February 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
I will run the DFA poll.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 21 February 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
put me down for misfits/samhain/danzig then!
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 21 February 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
YES
― sleeve, Friday, 21 February 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
and you have to title it
is there any way that Floyd could possibly *not* run concurrently with classic rock?
personal request, idk if anyone else feels the same way but the thought of participating in both at the same time is daunting to say the least
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link
I'm totally cool with there not being a poll in process for a few days until Classic Rock gets off the ground. Go outside. Smell a flower. Kick a ball.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 February 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
a flower? on feb 21? not here.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
smell a melting pile of slush in a corner of the parking lot
― how's life, Friday, 21 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
smell a freshly roiling floe of dog urine
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
i'm constantly, like, a day away from being caught up enough w/ my professional writing obligations that i don't feel terribly irresponsible spending some time getting the Classic Rock poll setup, so i mean, it'll happen when it happens. maybe even tomorrow (no, really!). if Elvis Telecom wants to coordinate w/ me so we're not running stuff at the same time, that's fine by me, i can wait or i can get mine done before his.
― MISTERSNRUB (some dude), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
i don't really care, i'm just pissy because there are no flowers to smell around here for a good long while and i heard "dust in the wind" on the radio yesterday.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 21 February 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
yeah, I will run a No Wave poll
― sarahell, Friday, 21 February 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
OK! That gives us this:
A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished) B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)42. Stax - seandalai (finished)43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers (finished)46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (COMING SOON)47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom50. Steely Dan - Bee OK51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain53. Outkast - The Reverend54. Autechre - Leee55. Brian Eno - WmC56. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom58. Radiohead - nate woolls59. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza60. P-Funk - Shakey Mo Collier61. Stooges/Iggy Pop - flopson62. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier64. Italo - daavid65. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy66. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt67. “Epics” (non-classical division) - Leee68. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life69. Extreme Metal - Viceroy70. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe71. Pixies - Johnny Fever72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains73. Spoon - Bee OK74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods76. Queen - charlie h77. Dinosaur Jr. - Z S78. Tom Petty - rogermexico79. Ramones - tipsy mothra 80. Jimi Hendrix - WmC81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings82. John Coltrane - Tarfumes the Escape Goat83. Stereolab - Moka84. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK85. Genesis + solo - NickB86. The Smiths - nate woolls87. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl88. The Burt Bacharach songbook - WilliamC89. Dead C - Raymond Cummings90. Royal Trux + side projects - Drugs A. Money91. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?92. Rush - Matt #293. Oasis - darraghmac94. George Michael - Ismael Klata95. Talking Heads - Bee OK96. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan97. Van Halen - Johnny Fever98. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino99. Low - aldo100. Nine Inch Nails - chap101. REM - rogermexico.102. Bjork - Eric H.103. Wu-Tang Clan - ― Spottie104. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs)105. Covers - kornrulez6969106. New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee107. They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever108. No Wave - sarahell109. DFA - Van Horn Street110. Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
― Taking Devil's Tower (by mashed potatoes) (WilliamC), Friday, 21 February 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
can I turn my Extreme Metal poll into a Black Metal poll?
― Viceroy, Friday, 21 February 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
no prob
― Taking Devil's Tower (by mashed potatoes) (WilliamC), Friday, 21 February 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link
you can, but you must first murder one (1) bandmember and drink their blood
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 February 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Would there be interest in a Gainsbourg poll?
― Legendary Zing! Alum (seandalai), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
I'd be interested, but seeing as I pretty much always fail to vote in artist-specific polls maybe that doesn't mean much.
― emil.y, Friday, 21 February 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link
l'Histoire de Emil.y Pollshun
A French pop poll would be great! Or a non-English language European one!
― night boat to mega therion (NickB), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
I don't know what I'm so excited about btw!
― night boat to mega therion (NickB), Friday, 21 February 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
A larger French language poll would interest me, but a concentration on Gainsbourg alone would be out of my depth.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 February 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
Of course, now that I think about it, my ballot in a broader French language poll would still be fairly small.
French pop/French language/non-Anglophone poll would be right up my alley.
― emil.y, Saturday, 22 February 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link