Mia Farrow's son -- Ronan Seamus Farrow -- really creeps me out!

reading the comments on Nathaniel's posts from people aghast that Farrow doesn't have the good breeding and stiff upper lip to keep things private and in the family...and N insists on wondering why on earth Farrow attacks poor Alex Baldwin and Cate Blanchett

you did just tell us that it's ok to dismiss someone you don't know as crazy but not as a potential rapist because rape is a crime

one's a bit more serious than the other is all. so it would make sense that a different level of judgment is involved.

"crazy" (apologies to mental health advocates itt btw) is a bit easier to toss around than "rapist", it does not contain the same degree of moral opprobrium, nor does it imply that someone should be arrested and put in jail.

it's like the difference between calling someone a jerk and calling them a murderer

you're also the one asking what possible outcome people could want from farrow's letter, so forgive us for telling you

this was a genuine question and I appreciated your answer fwiw

i know everyone has already torn apart that terrible blogpost morbs posted but this paragraph requires special attention i think

I was publicly attacked on twitter recently by someone I was once online-friendly-with for merely suggesting that people ought to know facts before they passed judgment. I was concerned that people were forgetting that "innocent until proven guilty" is the backbone of our whole judicial system and as much as I may feel for Dylan Farrow, I have to admit that the health of our entire nation's legal system is more important to me than her personal journey.

(because if we take a woman's claim that she was sexually assaulted even halfway seriously, THE HEALTH OF OUR ENTIRE NATION'S LEGAL SYSTEM IS AT STAKE)

He's probably gonna post that New Republic piece soon about how it's not very journalistic and ethical to not consider both sides

i hope the trauma from that public attack on twitter will eventually dissipate, i'm sorry his personal journey through life had to include such an event.

like, should you wait until woody's suffered more than having to write a "mia's crazy, i'm innocent" press release before saying OMG IS THIS A KANGAROO COURT

i've seen such heinous stuff on facebook about this (mostly friends-of-friends). one gem was "it's not blaming the victim if she's not a victim."

when the wolves descend on the Magic In The Moonlight premiere and the bag is put over Woody's head, then maybe it's time to wonder what became of jurisprudence

my eye skipped right over "personal journey". what a jackass.

hey folks who read film people, let us know when one of them does a rembert-browne-on-kelly will you? or if it's already been done.

he pulled a Hannah Horvath though!

I can't even

I think you're right Nathaniel that the lashing out at the end of Dylan's letter is a cause of confusion for many of us. What exactly is she saying Diane Keaton and Cate Blanchett and everybody else should do? Refuse to participate in Woody's films based solely on her accusations? When she says she's not going to be silent as he's rewarded, is she implying that by speaking up she expects to change the public's interactions with Woody? Is she passing moral judgment on those of us who will continue to watch his films?

It's one thing for Mia, Dylan, et al. to cut Woody out of their lives, and even urge mutual friends to do the same thing. But it seems to me like a bridge too far to ask the general public, who have no first-hand knowledge, to take sides and judge his art by his personal life. That's a rabbit hole I'm unwilling to go down.

I imagine it's common for crime victims to get a "the whole world's against me" feeling, and that's why a lot of people, who may see themselves in Dylan, are upset at people who are trying to be agnostic on the issue.

February 4, 2014 | Marsha Mason

I thought Marsha Mason was busy with bath and body products.

if we take a woman's claim that she was sexually assaulted even halfway seriously

I believe he is taking it seriously. The cynicism on display in this thread is sickmaking.

I don't have any doubt of D.F. being a victim, but I'm not going to assign percentages of likelihood to each parent because this isn't a game.

I haven't been posting here because I don't have 2 brain cells to rub together anymore and was waiting for someone to sum up my thinking so all I had to do was type "otm." Shakey got there -- thanks, man.

The worst bits I've read in the last few days have been by reporters, actually. An acquaintance a few hours ago said that "most victims of sexual abuse never would speak out against the perpetrator this way in a public forum. It's just not what happens. They might speak out against abuse in general, but they rarely voluntarily talk out in public of what happened to them. If so, the victims of Sandusky would be screaming in the headlines. Real victims of abuse don't do that." And it's infuriating because he can't understand why Woody Allen is different, and infuriating because HE knows how real victims of abuse because as reporter he hasn't met or read anyone like Dylan Farrow.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/02/woody_allen_s_biggest_defender_robert_weide_s_attack_on_mia_farrow_and_her.html

You have to allow people their emotions on this one, morbs. One of Solon's more interesting laws in ancient Athens was to make it an offense for anyone to refuse to pick a side in a civil war. Withholding judgment because the facts are not recoverable is an intellectually valid position to take in a case like this, but for a lot of people that position is not emotionally valid. Taking a position of emotional disengagement in this kind of issue gets read as monstrous inhumanity by those who are fully emotionally engaged. You can't alter that, so don't fight it.

Xpost alfred did this reporter say this in a public forum bc if so I want the fkin idiot's name...

You have to allow people their emotions on this one, morbs. One of Solon's more interesting laws in ancient Athens was to make it an offense for anyone to refuse to pick a side in a civil war. Withholding judgment because the facts are not recoverable is an intellectually valid position to take in a case like this, but for a lot of people that position is not emotionally valid. Taking a position of emotional disengagement in this kind of issue gets read as monstrous inhumanity by those who are fully emotionally engaged. You can't alter that, so don't fight it.

― Aimless, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:07 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who the FUCK do you think you are?

take that smug fucking tone and shove it up your asshole till it bleeds you worthless piece of shit

Matt, I sense your outrage.

i seriously wish rape on both you and morbs before you die your miserable deaths so maybe just once you can feel what it's like, the world would be a better place because of it

Xpost alfred did this reporter say this in a public forum bc if so I want the fkin idiot's name...

― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis)

FB.

this is one of those things that makes me glad I'm not on fb

Matt P stfu, seriously

who the fuck are you?

I am very sorry to hear you were raped, Matt.

groovemaaan wrote this on thread Stanley Kubrick: Classic or Dud? on board I Love Everything on Sep 7, 2010

barry lyndon is probably his best film

the killing is my favorite

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

long position on silver

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

i would wait a few weeks (or months) before trading stocks though, until the greece situation is sorted out

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

intraday trading is more predictable

fuck no, just look at today's dow chart

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

i guess it's probably easier to predict the next 4 weeks than the next 4 hours

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

yeah 700$ for stocks isn't much, especially for intraday trading. options have a much higher volatility

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

yeah, but if you're on your toes you'll know that the dow is starting to tank. and if you're really good you can forsee that it will tank..... it's about being up on the news

yeah but how do you explain that the dow has risen again after the release of the unemployment numbers?

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

just an example btw, but i would say that following the news isn't enough to predict the trend

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

xp what he said

groovemaaan wrote this on thread The Stock Market on board I Love Everything on Jun 2, 2011

Yesterday I predicted that Sprint stock would do well today. I was definitely right on that one;

it has risen 2% so you would've made a 14$ profit, congratulations

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Hurting??

I am very sorry to hear you were raped, Matt.

― Aimless, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1. i wasn't raped. 2. other people being raped isn't about you.

i mean really, who the fuck do you think you are.

what the hell is going on here and why is my name at the end of that strange post

i wasn't raped.

My apologies. I must have misunderstood.

o rly

might want to take a look every other post you've made while you're at it.

All 14,974?

i didn't think this thread could get more poisonous

http://i.imgur.com/KBNcZ.gif

impressive face heel turn by aimless after (imo mostly ungrounded) outburst from balls

Telling another poster "I wish you would get raped" isn't acceptable, Matt.

nope.

well this is gasoline on an open flame

I thought Matt P was just being mock-outraged, yikes

to aimless: you don't get to generalize and universalize about human nature in that omniscient tone you take so often, unless you really think you are god! is that who you think you are?

about getting raped. sexual violence happens every day, usually to the powerless and already thrown away. is it really so bad to wish it on the defenders of power, who have a choice? the only thing i take back is that the world would be a better place if that happened, only because i don't think the perspectives of people like aimless and dr. morbius will ever change.

yes, it really is so bad, you dense and hateful drama queen.

is it really so bad to wish it on the defenders of power, who have a choice?

its not particularly productive

hahahaha xp adieu