Mia Farrow's son -- Ronan Seamus Farrow -- really creeps me out!

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Unless Weide is understating his current relationship with WA, tho, he seems fairly open about that stake he has.

also croup, he seems to directly disprove things stated as fact in this thread, e.g. none of Mia's other kids have spoken against her.

they implictly require you to believe that Mia Farrow somehow brainwashed a child into believing that Woody Allen molested her, and was so successful at this that she still believes as much as an adult. This is a non-impossible but highly far-fetched scenario.

With the testimony of the Farrow domestic employee implying that she saw and heard things that suggest that possibility.

I don't know, Weide doesn't know, you don't know.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link

If anyone is creeped out by the notion of a 55-year old man becoming involved with his girlfriend’s 19-year old adopted daughter, I understand. That makes perfect sense.

it does! that's a pretty fucked-up power dynamic.

mh, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

"disprove" is a strong word for what the unsourced references to moses farrow in the piece does.

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

also, as i'm not part of the jury in the non-existence case against allen, I don't need to "know" anything, aside from the fact that his children have accused him of abuse, both sexual and - in ronan's case - violent. All the Farrows have asked us to do is let that inform how we treat Allen has a public figure, and I think that's fair.

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

it's not like allen's just been thrown in jail without a trial or had blood thrown on him in public - this is an article saying "Not So Fast!" to people debating whether we should have had a big Hooray For Cinema's Greatest Feminist Woody Allen celebration on network TV.

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

there shouldn't be any televised awards shows.

problem solved.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link

that article by Weide is even more useless and unnecessary than that boring doc he did.

Ludo, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

there shouldn't be any televised awards shows.

problem solved.

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, January 28, 2014

no need to get sniffy about Steve Tyler singing "You Really Got a Hold on Me" to Smokey

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

it does kinda :/ me that these allegations and their associated evidence went unchanged for twenty years during which woody allen was nominated for a million awards and won several and now we're all suddenly having an important discussion about the appropriateness of honoring him because the victim's brother tweeted a bunch about it during the lead-up to his debut as a cable television personality; if every word the farrows say is true this still speaks badly for Us

altho maybe it's just that nobody had thought about woody allen in decades until late-period masterpiece midnight in paris catapulted him back into the public eye

(i read the vanity fair article but i feel like ronan's funny tweets are a bigger cultural force)

Ronan's tweets end to end are funnier than MIP.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

it does kinda :/ me that these allegations and their associated evidence went unchanged for twenty years during which woody allen was nominated for a million awards and won several and now we're all suddenly having an important discussion about the appropriateness of honoring him because the victim's brother tweeted a bunch about it during the lead-up to his debut as a cable television personality; if every word the farrows say is true this still speaks badly for Us

― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, I think it's not exactly like that -- I think it was that dylan herself had never spoken publicly about it, or at least not as an adult, and then came forward late last year and spoke to Vanity Fair about it herself. So they were kind of lying dormant for much of that twenty year period and then very recently she reawakened them.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link

these allegations and their associated evidence went unchanged for twenty years

why did you expect something to change over that period? idgi

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

I dunno if you were around in the 90s but this stuff was definitely all aired the first time around and there was a LOT of coverage of it

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

no yeah that's fair, and i'd never say there's an inappropriate time to talk abt this or that malone isn't right to speak about it, it's just my toxic information-age cynicism makes it impossible to stop feeling that responding to the highlighting by her much more public family members makes me complicit in somebody's promo cycle xxp

I do kind of wonder whether the timing of Dylan coming forward was with knowledge of the lifetime achievement award forthcoming. At the same time, that doesn't necessarily make it less credible.

As for the "promo cycle" -- I think "my sister was molested" is kind of an awkward way to build buzz for your show.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ixvSqC3fL.jpg

and idk i think meting out quippy justice on the internet is a decent way to prepare for doing it on tv

shouldn't act like this is the primary issue here, just thread title kinda otm is all i mean to say

I'm not sure how much advance publicity GG lifetime achievement awards get, esp if they're going to someone who never goes to award shows

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link

If anyone is creeped out by the notion of a 55-year old man becoming involved with his girlfriend’s 19-year old adopted daughter, I understand. That makes perfect sense.

it does! that's a pretty fucked-up power dynamic.

― mh, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Especially when "becoming involved" = took pornographic photos of said woman that 'Woody would later say publicly... had been taken because Soon-Yi was interested in modeling.'

Walter Galt, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 09:50 (ten years ago) link

so....I just got this press release:

Presents
FADING GIGOLO

Written & Directed By
John Turturro

Starring
John Turturro, Woody Allen, Vanessa Paradis, Liev Schreiber,
Sharon Stone, Sofia Vergara & Bob Balaban

Opens April 18th in Theaters

FADING GIGOLO is a funny and moving film about people’s endless and never fully satisfying quest to find happiness through sex and love. Featuring an all-star cast, including a rare acting performance by Woody Allen, FADING GIGOLO marks John Turturro’s fifth film as writer & director.
When best friends Fioravante (John Turturro) and Murray (Woody Allen) scheme to get out of debt by entering into the world’s oldest profession, neither is fully prepared for what awaits them. With Murray acting as pimp, he quickly secures a job for his friend. Murray’s beautiful dermatologist Dr. Parker (Sharon Stone) and her equally gorgeous friend Selima (Sofia Vergara) confess they’d like to experience a ménage à trois – Fioravante is hired, after a few “try out” meetings. Before long, Murray is successfully arranging several more clients for Fioravante. But, when Murray introduces him to Avigal (Vanessa Paradis), the widow of a revered Chasidic Rabbi, complications arise. Leaving her cloistered world for chaste visits with Fioravante, their tender meetings stir up feelings both has never felt before, eventually drawing suspicion – and jealousy – from Dovi (Liev Schreiber), a Chasidic man who has pined for Avigal for years. Soon, it is Murray who must resolve this love triangle…discovering the hard way that it’s not so easy to be a pimp!

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

lol wat

Mordy , Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link

i was like you have to be fucking kidding me but it's this agency that's real and sends me stuff all the time, mostly movie stuff but i got on their list somehow....

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

read about that months ago

Bullets over Broadway is an imminent Broadway musical -- u know, the one where the Mia stand-in gets iced by gangsters

(can't imagine they got someone as trying as Jennifer Tilly to play it)

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Pimpin ain't easy

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

http://www.i-italy.org/files/1image/0%20liberalizzazioni/john-turturro-e-woody-allen.jpg

"Anything goes when it come to hoes!"

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Fading Gigolo, Hidden Pedo

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

i mean this is just so pathetic it makes me sad:

"urray’s beautiful dermatologist Dr. Parker (Sharon Stone) and her equally gorgeous friend Selima (Sofia Vergara) confess they’d like to experience a ménage à trois – Fioravante is hired, after a few “try out” meetings."

Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

Sofia Vergara and Sharon Stone want to experience a threesome but don't know how to get it together so they call Woody Allen and he brings them John Turturro.

I'm not shocked this was written and directed by John Turturro.

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

I believe WA is now the same age as Groucho was when he did Skidoo

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

the trailer for the turturro movie looked funny, but also icky

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link

i think there have been more movies made using the premise of male gigolos than actual male gigolos

if you stan for nothing you'll fall for everything (symsymsym), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

where's the movie about Clark Gable's gigolo days, that's what I wanna know

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link

Sofia Vergara and Sharon Stone want to experience a threesome but don't know how to get it together so they call Woody Allen and he brings them John Turturro.

this sentence is killin me

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

and i say that as a john turturro doppelganger

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

man, you must've changed in recent years!

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

oh my resemblance to j-turt is long established

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

that plot point (overqualified beauties stiffly discussing "experiences") is v late woody, hope there are scenes where sharon stone says of sofia vergara "she's always been the sexually experimental one. men are fascinated by her. she has a dangerous allure."

"you're a beautiful dermatologist! why this sudden fixation with unconventional lovemaking?"

turturro i love you but smh

goole, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link

conversations anbout dangerous allure while looking at Monets hanging in bayside San Francisco loft.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

"Anything goes when it come to hoes!"

u kno

(D1CK$) (sic), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link

Dylan Farrow wrote an open letter: http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Murgatroid, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link

yikesies

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link

hoo boy

polyphonic, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

http://i.minus.com/ibwgSngC0kRa4D.gif

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Jesus

avant gardener (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Yikes, indeed...

Frederik B, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

fuck

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link


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