It's a cruel cruel summer: the sounds of deep tech / shuffle / cuttin shapes / upgrunt house / etc. etc. in 2014

lol

slow compared to what?

Well compared to something like Max Milan & Donae'o's "Hold On":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qDXICAqrs

Of course as per usual all this stuff gets pitched up in the mix in any event.

but it's only 2 - 3 bpm slower than that - is that, like, a huge difference in houseland? serious question.

No, it's just that listening to the first tune without pitching up gives off a slower vibe generally - e.g. normally comparing this stuff to Aeroplane wouldn't make any sense.

Is there a good mix of this stuff somewhere I should listen to?

This set remains a real keeper for me, though it only really heats up after the first few tunes:

set picked fairly at random (they're all quite even really, although the one with the shay & sinista guest mix recently that i believe you heard was a bit of a flop imo). iirc radford accidentally coins the splendid phrase "upgrunt house" here btw

[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.html

Oliver Rees - Energy
D'Vinci - Modus Operandi
NRKY - Self Destruct
Area 8 - I Am
Truce ft Kenny Knots - Take Control
Rs4 - Walking On
Nightshift - Cult Music
False Identity - Goon To A Goblin
Shay & Sinista - To You
Roger Porterfield - Candy Acid
Fluorescent Noise - Go Deep
Martin Ikin - Nothing To Fear
Fluorescent Noise - Feel The Same
Nightshift - Higher
D'Vinci - Every Weekend
Rs4 - Locked On You
Carnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The Morning
Hugo Massien - Menace
Kane Law - Free Your Mind
Rs4 - In The Dark
Rs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time Out
Hugo Massien - Untitled
Rhys Catania - One Life

― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thx

so djs generally speed these tracks up in sets, but they didn't speed up Aeroplane?

Not generally - Aeroplane tracks were designed to play at a disco tempo.

But not particularly much turns on this issue IMO - the difference between this scene and Aeroplane is not founded in tempo primarily.

bookmarked btw, only mentioning this as a counter to the negs

If you can't feel it, you're not close enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8iursOmImo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOesMUtmB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PriKWfE-sic

I spent an hour looking at #cuttingshapes youtubes the other day after a Youtube commenter mentioned the movement in the Jaded video

I approve of this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdwud89AJk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wyzn0UvA6I

the thread-starting track is AMAZING

the word "upgrunt" is emphatically not amazing

also this track is too good, i don't want to hear it sped up

That rtc post is not really about this stuff strictly, though it's all related - this is more on a cold populist tech-house with burbling basslines and occasional vocals tip, and really is in that Pascalian "you have to start praying before you will believe" camp.

― Tim F, lunes 27 de enero de 2014 21:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would be the relevant rtc quote

i mean everyone sorta knows the deal with shuffle by now, like what it's supposed to be - the narcotic introversion, stalking industrial bleak anomie, shade of bleep hardcore submarine sonorities and/or leather jacket geezer 8bar like jon e cash or w/e (also heard radford remark on one tune as "like a metalheadz version of house"), portentous digital boogie, some of it hot creations tongue-in-cheek, verging but rarely tipping into a jagged dexplicit/ballroom mania - one soundcloud tag had it as "3d house" which i quite like - these kinda revolving schematic polygonal mesh wireframe vertices and such, "cutting shapes" after all. 3d house also works best like 3d from massive attack who perhaps better exemplify the moody vox sample matrix than s&m, although there are some dubwise capers at play i feel

"Upgrunt" was a Freudian slip by DJ Mark radford that I included in the title because I was very drunk last night and making all sorts of poor life decisions.

Glad you like the opening tune lex!

Fab quote from rtc there, I almost want to be a musician just so I can commission him for liner notes.

Oh great, people LMFAO-dance to this shit?

Funnily enough, this form of dancing was the default form of dancing to house / techno in Melbourne throughout the 90s and early 00s, to the point that in Australia it's called the "Melbourne Shuffle".

Tim you know this one yeah? It's been around for ages but feels like the sort of thing you'd like (could be wrong of course):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPNtoS3GUrw

This one too:

https://soundcloud.com/nrky/nrky-feat-iviee-mercutio

Generally I'm enjoying dipping a toe into shuffle/deeptech but I suspect if I get too into it then me & paolo will have a musical falling-out :p

Glad there's a thread on this stuff.

what is the track with wu tang sample at 3 minutes into gotshapes #5?

it is an acceptable track.

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=443065059072623

been into this one for a while now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YsNO3qo1l0

Andy I adore "When The Night Falls"! I think generally these tunes with overlapping/interweaving basslines and metallic synth riffs are my favourite.

Speaking of which, still obsessed with "Locked On You" also:

https://soundcloud.com/rs4house/soulstar-locked-on-you-rs4

THIS:

https://soundcloud.com/carnao-beats-1/listen-to-me

omg that one is amazing

is that soundcloud an edit? i feel like it couple be double/triple the length

I expect so - "Gone In The Morning" (his previous one with Donae'o) stretched on for eight lugubrious minutes and this feels like a sequel.

can you explain how this and "circles" don't belong on the uk pop-house thread? these two songs are prob two of my favourite of 2014 but i don't hear what makes them different...

Well nothing really - at the vocal-pop end of the scene the only distinguishing factor is those burbling metallic basslines. But (as always with this kind of scene) the fun thing about deep tech is the interwoven tracky/crossover vibe, so for myself I like not to keep them in the one place mentally - they probably warrant cross-posting though!

This is my favourite trackier-but-still-anthemic deep tech tune of the past few months:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtHMKyJiL8

1 hour deep tech mix i just did

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/deep-blue/

1. Ligne Onze - Crackboy & Jean Nipon
2. When the Night falls - Storm & Lance Morgan
3. OKAY - Shiba San
4. Turn it up (Tchami remix) - Mercer
5. Sicker than your average - Playtime Productions
6. Duality - J Beatz
7. You & Me (No Artificial colours remix) - Rob Made
8. Gotham - Ten walls
9. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo
10. Nothing to fear - Martin Ikin
11. Hungry for the power (Jamie Baggotts Remix) - Azari & III
12. Heading My Way ft. Tamara - Playtime Productions
13. With U - Mark Radford
14. FlyLOVE (Friend Within remix) - Chris Turner
15. Squared - No Artificial Colours
16. Down - Scottie D
17. Valley of the shadows (Will Clarke, Steve Westover & Some Bloke called John Re-Rub) - Origin Unknown
18. Gunman (Jamie Baggotts remix) - 187 Lockdown
19. Inevitable - Playtime Productions
20. Video Games (Reset Safari's 'Lost in 94' remix) - Lana Del Ray
21. Gunman (slight return)

Crazy, some of my fave music at the moment.

How great is Shiba San - Okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1txVyyLkb6g

So great. There seems to be a lot of scope for a jackin/deep tech convergence, to my ears at any rate.

Benny, any chance of a download link if I ask super nicely?

will do tim

The transition into Gotham is sweet.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/00r2te

Excellent!

8. Gotham - Ten walls
9. Super Shady - Tom Garnett & Chris Lorenzo
10. Nothing to fear - Martin Ikin

<3 this section

I guess this thread has never quite gotten a full head of steam going. Rev was asking ages ago about favorite mixes; there's been a handful of sets that I've been finding particularly vibesy and have been coming back to over and over, so thought I'd share them, partly in the hope that some of you could help fill in the gaps in my track listings.

First couple -

Majesty at Frequency December 2013
https://soundcloud.com/djlancemorgan/majesty-live-frequency-2nd?in=djlancemorgan/sets/frequency-2nd-anniversary-live
0.00 - Tazer - Wet Dollars
4.00 - ??? ('All I wanna do is make the whole crowd bounce')
7.20 - Tainted Souls - The Way
10.30 - ??? (lots of warpy noises and build-ups)
13.00 – Decimal – Party Non Stop (Jedi mix)
15.45 - Richie Ahmed ft Kevin Knapp - The Drums
19.30 - ??? (wordless vocals)
23.35 – Majesty – I Can Tell (Luke Larrell remix)
25.55 - Carnao Beats - Just Say Nothing (remix/VIP-type version)
29.10 - ??? (melancholy synths)
33.00 - ??? ('higher baby'. headstrong vibes)
37.15 – WhoMadeWho – Every Minute Alone (Tale Of Us remix)
41.10 - Kurtz & Bomber - Such A Rush
43.30 - Playtime Productions - Our Kind (unreleased VIP-type mix?)
47.45 - ??? (big bass stabs, off-key synth)
51.45 - Carnao Beats - Know My Name (Amine Edge & Dance remix)
54.30 - Dennis Ferrer- Mind Your Step
58.30 - ??? (slow builder)
62.35 - ??? (‘shake and pop’)

Truce b2b Supa D at Hidden January 2014:
https://soundcloud.com/djsupad/dj-supa-d-b2b-dj-truce-breeze
0.00 – Burnski – Lost In the Zoo (Martinez Bros remix)
2.50 - ??? (Set-builder with perky pianos)
6.10 – Carnao Beats – Know My Name (Amine Edge & Dance remix)
8.25 – Nobody Knows – Breakdown (Kreature remix)
11.45 - Truce ft Kenny Knots – Take Control
16.25 - Dennis Ferrer – Mind Your Step
19.40 - SOS Band – Just Be Good To Me (Truce remix)
23.00 – X5 Dubs – I Just Can’t Understand
26.05 - Bobby Womack – Love Is Gonna Lift You Up (Julio Basmore remix)
28.20 - ??? (Very ominous and very ‘Euro’ sounding – would LOVE an ID on this one, suspect it could have been around for ages and ages)
31.05 - ??? (‘Jack your body’ samples)
33.45 - ??? (‘She ain’t got nothing on me’ – this one popped up in loads of sets I was hearing late last year)
35.45 - MK – Always
38.35 - Nick Holder – Erotic Illusions (Steve Bug & Martin Landsky remix)
43.30 - ??? (female monologue, ‘into the black night’)
45.20 - ??? (big repetitive bassline)
47.25 - ??? (sounds like a remix of Gorillaz – Clint Eastwood, could easily be by Truce. Big!)

And a couple more -

Carnao Beats at Home February 2014
https://soundcloud.com/homeldn/home-sundays-live-002-carnao
0.20 - ???
3.00 - ??? (pitched-down male vocals)
7.05 - ??? (acid stabs)
9.25 - Luke Larrell – Secrets
11.10 - Carnao Beats – Just Say Nothing
14.45 - Fluorescent Noise – Go Deep
17.15 - Carnao Beats ft Donaeo – Gone In The Morning
19.50 - Carnao Beats – H.O.U.S.E
21.55 - Tchami – Promesses
24.30 - Nightshift – Made You Look (Hugo Massien remix)
28.00 - ??? (high-pitched vocal, ‘All you got to do’)
30.05 - Dusky – Esperanto Juggler
33.15 - ??? (weirdly seems to sample the vocal from Kariya – Let Me Love You For Tonight, NEED TO KNOW THIS ONE)
36.00 -??? (Big monologue thing, ‘Stop for a minute and think how much we have together’, etc etc, NEED TO KNOW THIS ONE EVEN MORE)
38.00 - Carnao Beats – Know My Name
40.20 - ??? (wheezy synths & bass stabs)
42.40 - ??? (stripped down dark thing)
43.55 - ??? (vocal & piano thing, ‘My love and my touch’)
47.00 - ???
48.30 – Archie B - On & On
52.20 - Playtime Productions – Heading My Way (Alize remix)
54.55 - ??? (‘He’s going to tell the newspapers’)
59.25 - ??? (Mournful bleepy thing)
61.10 - ??? (‘Hammertime’ samples)
63.46 – Carnao Beats – Lose It

Lee B3 Edwards – Be Free promo mix March 2014
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/befree1
0.00 – Trixz Aka Nano – Keep It Minimal
4.10 - Sia – Little Man (RS4 remix)
8.40 - ??? (‘Don’t you know what goes around?’)
12.05 - ??? (hip-hop samples, sounds like ‘hand on the pug/I’m in the coup cruising’ though I’m guessing that first line can’t be quite right)
16.05 – SOS Band – Just Be Good To Me (Truce remix)
20.00 - Fluorescent Noise – Go Deep
23.55 - ??? (sounds like it’s remixing/sampling from Fatboy Slim – Praise You)
27.30 - ??? (‘you’re a breath of fresh air to me’)
30.30 - Nightshift – Made You Look (Hugo Massien remix)
33.50 - ??? (think this might be by Arun Verone, has some of the same sounds as his tune Tell Me II)
37.25 - ??? (more hip-hop samples, pummelling bass)
41.05 - ??? (samples the ‘move to the vibe and know that you are blessed’ acapella)
45.20 – A2H – Effin Cockneys
48.50 - ??? (‘here I am, inside my little box’)
53.00 – Creative Mind – The Five Senses
57.25 – Arun Verone – Hater Shades
61.00 – Creative Mind - Higher
65.00 - ??? (‘the way you’re making me feel’)

nice one andy, will give these a listen when i get the chance, definitely needs to be more discussion of it here. the scene seems to be in a hyper-productive phase right now and i´m just not on top of things like i used to be unfortunately.

for now the only thing i can help you with is this from the carnao set:
43.55 - ??? (vocal & piano thing, ‘My love and my touch’

haven´t listened to the set but its likely to be the andme & bastian remix of route 94´s My love, right?

^^Thanks Benny - had a listen and it is that tune but not the AM & B mix, think it might actually be the original mix but just pitched up a bit.

Typically I've now managed to find the answers to a few of my own questions -
19.30 on the Majesty set is Majesty - Endless Words
47.45 on the Majesty set is Majesty & Luke Larrell - They Want You (Matt Fear remix)
33.45 on the Truce/Supa D set is Telepopmusik - Try Me Anyway (Dirty Channels remix)
48.50 on the B3 set is Fluorescent Noise - Here I Am

majesty set
33.00 - ??? ('higher baby'. headstrong vibes)

is amine edge & dance remix of Destructo - Higher

thanks!

good cooly g track

Oh wow this Jay Power set

As with other his earlier sets discussed above he has this real knack of making each track sound like a step up from whatever it's emerging out of, though I'm pretty sure this is an illusion.

A little late, but "From Above" is really great! Only liking a pretty small percentage of this music overall.

This cutting shapes stuff is not how I would have imagined moving to it, but I guess that's pretty moot considering how unlikely it is I will be out dancing to this in clubs any time soon.

wait . . . did anyone know that Luke Larrell who did Serious People a k a the first Audio Rehab release a k a the first deep tech release was previously Flukes from Crazy Cousinz?? Just stumbled on this fact by accident here https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151919639114477&id=43921789476 and hadn't seen any mention of it

latest in k.flint's for promotional use only series https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-3

if anyone's still out there . . . Cooly G makes the Thump tracks of the year list . . . https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/the-50-best-tracks-of-2015

Self-promotion but I think my review (brutally shortened though it may have been) did a decent job of explaining the vibe of the release:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16809-this-aint-chicago-the-underground-sound-of-uk-house-and-acid-1987-1991/

― Tim F, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:38 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm reckoning if you sub the ecstasy blear there for kanye style modern anomie & grime refugee aggro influence and then inject that into a confluence of the shuffling/shapes urban mnml scene and ejeca/waze & odyssey acid warehouse revival u might possibly have the ldn flavour to come

just saying like

― r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 23:03 Bookmark

https://soundcloud.com/skreamizm/sets/techno-eski-ideas

i'm not srsly rating myself for that before anyone gets funny :)

hopefully it may at least still come to pass that strange static/vybe/kg3 aren't making simultaneously the most crucial yet most irrelevant music ever though. recent stuff is mind-blowing and there just doesnt seem any place for it

Eski techno = A+ hypothetical genre would bang all that shit.

tbh the wishful hypothetical thing i'd most be taken with is some sort of amniotic melange biz drawing from the strange jazzy abstraction of that uk house and acid comp plus the more uncommon bits of that woebot 89-93 uk techno mix on the other thread. lil silva became larry heard so could arun verone become kirk degiorgio etc

basically the thought of if factmag will turn everything into idm then why not have that add up to something more not less idk

lol everyone i can dimly remember from the deeptech scene who began to make sort of interesting experimental guff like that (like imagemk, karlton phillips) has now deleted them off their soundclouds and went all linear zzz again

whats the good non afrobeats non grime non factnerd uk dance music this year. is there a 2016 thread equiv i missed

death by a thousand cuttin shapes

I for one have no clue.

all these dead links make for one depressing thread!!

But “one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas” really made me lol.

oh yah lots of good discourse ... just wish the mixes & tracks werent like , vanished