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when cozen is not at the cinema you will be barred from entry of course

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

Just piping in... Stalker presented as architectural film is quite spot on, as it is "about" moving in the space of the Zone, searching for the hidden room, moving along oblique routes.

― Janne (Janne), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

ok. you know I go to the cinema too much tho, right?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

I know. I won't feel the pressure to match you, film-for-film.

they are presenting 'alphaville' as an architectural film, here, too. they say it is a reorganisation of the city [paris] and its component parts. they also said something about strewn and 'like a situationist map'!!!! I've seen it.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

"alpha-VILLE, alpha-VILLE, it's only a deri-VÉ!"

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's going to be another long summer.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha, I can't wait.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 13:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Whatever you do, don't try and smoke pot while watching Stalker, you'll go into a trance and loose track. See it in a theater.

― J2Dancer, Wednesday, 3 March 2004 23:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

I can't wait.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 23:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Nothing to do with Stalker but I just watched Andrei Rublev tonight. That's quite some film.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 06:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

...and then some?

Huh, I now recall the peculiar circumstances (the very early 80s, Moscow of all places) of watching Rublev myself...

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 10:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah that chapter about the bell is madness. i like the end bit most i think.

stalker, funnily enough, was the film i had least patience. like, ive seen most of his films but that was the first time i got a bit fidgety. but i really wanted to fall asleep.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

what about the shot where he follows the horses' hooves and then pans down to the battle below? yow

― !!!! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 11:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think the part in the bell chapter where they are waiting to see if it will ring is one of the most suspenseful moments in all of film.

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was about to say, that was incredibly well-handled, and even better, I had no idea whether it would in fact ring or not -- it could have easily gone either way.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

or the part with the geese flying by?

― !!!! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 22:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

soooooooooooooo booooooooooooooorrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 19:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

and i enjoyed "solaris"!

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 19:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

this is like "mindwalk" with a pedigree.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 19:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

the zone is sweet!

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 29 May 2006 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

i really like this film! i somehow watched it in one sitting.

― gear (gear), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes the zone is sweet. i would have just as happily have watched a documentary on decaying abandoned soviet factories. still, i didn't need like TWENTY MINUTES of rusting guns underwater when FIVE would have done just as well.

it just seems like lots of things in this movie were absurdly stretched out for minimal payoffs. how many times do i have to watch stalker take a nap??

exceptions: the trolley ride into the zone was great, the part where they are taking a nap in the creek is great, too, where we see all the different bits of detritus in the stream.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

actually, this was sort of like solaris - 1st half totally watchable, 2nd half same shit as the 1st half happens over and over again w/ minimal development until the last 10 minutes when some big sci-fi revelation happens.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

is it true that they all died from cancers they picked up while filming in that place?? i can't imagine how wading neck-deep in sewer water in an abandoned hydroelectric plant could have seemed like a good idea ... didn't they have an actor's union?

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

it must be the best film I ever seen. the subject, the concentrated dramatic intensity, and something else about the image and time, that was cinema yet advancing in another territory, I don't know. I haven't thought much about it but I think I'll get a copy for myself.

― S. (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

it could be a good film for Bun-O-Vision parody.

― S. (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have never seen this movie

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

This is still the only Tarkovsky I've watched. Loved it then, but sort of feel resistant towards the idea of watching any more, diminishing returns, et al.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 29 May 2006 23:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

One of my favourite films. Indeed the last couple scenes are among the most beautiful film I would imagine.

Maybe I will go rent Rublev tonight!

― The Boy Who Cried YSI? (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

i would have just as happily have watched a documentary on decaying abandoned soviet factories.

how about a 9-hour documentary on decaying abandoned chinese factories??

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

Stalker is my favorite movie. I've watched it about ten times, once in
slow motion, and I designed my own edition of Roadside Picnic (google for
Roadside Picnic - pick the first PDF result).
I general hate all theists, but I actually like the Christian symbolism
in Stalker. Mostly because it isn't preachy - Tarkovsky fills his movies
with religious questions, not answers. And it isn't the simplistic "Christ
Cliff Notes" retelling on the core mythos that's so common in religious art.
Aside from Stalker... Nostalghia and Rublyov are brilliant, Ivan & Mirror
are very good, Solaris is good, Sacrifice sucks. Steamroller & Violin is
of historic interest only.

― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just thinking about this movie makes me want to pull on my hair and roll around on the floor and throw a temper tantrum - anything to prevent anouther twelve hours of watching dudes wallow around in puddles. ANYTHING.

I liked Andrei Rublev, though.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

What is the purpose of watching it in slow motion?

(genuinely curious, not be snarky)

― erklie (erklie), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

More time to appreciate the photography.

― shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's not twelve hours. less than three, i think.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl

― ☪, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

this movie is also at fantasia film fest... everyone seems to say it's worth checking so i may do so! i amde a thread for the fest, as well.

― Will M., Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

this is one of the best films ever!

and it's not boring!

― poortheatre, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

I should've gone.

― RJG, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

it better be not boring! I am going to see it, and if I fall asleep like i did in solaris...

― Will M., Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Probably the most beautiful movie I've ever seen that looks like it was filmed in a vat of toxic sewage (in other words, this film has got to be the Russian equivalent of "The Conqueror", no?)

― Joe, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 01:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

i saw this with a group of friends the other night and loved it. it's really beautiful, although it kind of killed everyone's desire to go out drinking afterward.

it brought to mind lots of things that were made later...cube, house of leaves, lots of video games (half-life 2, fallout 3, uh, super mario bros).

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2009 14:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't get why people hate this one so much, i think it's great

― harbl, Monday, 14 September 2009 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Actual Stalker videogame would be 1000x awes.

― Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 September 2009 15:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

uh, see the previous revive!

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2009 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

!!!

― Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 September 2009 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this is like "mindwalk" with a pedigree.
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, May 29, 2006 7:42 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

i just watched this and i liked it a lot, but it did make me think of "mindwalk" once or twice. but even when the script droned on a little, there was still the gorgeous, ominous look and feel of the film. i think its ideas resonate much more in its non-verbal realms than in its dialogue.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 November 2009 06:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

restraining orders were really hard to get in russia back then

― tectonic p (latebloomer), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

minor point of curiosity: why is it split into part 1 and part 2, with a separate credit and everything? was it originally made for tv or something?

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 November 2009 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

it was something to do with soviet bureaucracy. Tarkovsky had already used his whole budget shooting the bulk of the film but the film stock was ruined and the footage was unusable. in order to get funding to reshoot it T had to imply to the authorities that the film was always conceived as two parts and he needed additional funding to shoot part two. i think he actually used the funding for part two to reshoot the whole thing.

― jed_, Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

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i have an english PDF of roadside picnic ... one of the fort thunder guys had it downloadable on his website, i believe it was m4t br1nkm4n ... maybe it was even the fort thunder website itself?

seems to have been taken down now but i can share if anybody would like.

― the late great, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

kind of a bummer because it was where i'd go to read all of the teratoid heights comics

― the late great, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

RIP providence

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

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