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Should I read "Sex, Drugs, Ratt & Roll: My Life in Rock" by Steven Pearcy or "Dirty Rocker Boys" by Bobbie Brown?

how's life, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

I just read "dirty rocker boys" and it was entirely competent and pretty meh. Plenty of pointless sex gossip that I won't ruin spoil unless asked.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link

The Pearcy book is pretty good.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

I saw a recommendation for this book but I haven't read it yet:

Ickes, Scott. 2013. Afro-Brazilian Culture and
Regional Identity in Bahia, Brazil. Gainesville: University Press of
Florida.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link

Just finished James Fearnley's book about the Pogues. It falls away in the second half, but the stuff set round Kings Cross and Camden in the early 80s is fantastic.
― Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:10 (1 year ago)

I've been wanting to buy this for a while now. Must order now!

Duke, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link

I'm enjoying David Byrne's How Music Works which is part musical autobiograsphy part history of recorded sound. Makes me want to listen to the Talking Heads who I've never got majorly into as well as his other projects.

Also reading a book Called This Ain't The Summer Of Love: Conflict and Crossover in Heavy Metal and Punk by Steve WAksman which is currently looking at Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper and theatricality after having spent some time looking at Nuggets and before that Grand Funk Railroad. KInd of interesting though it does keep tying everything into metal but then that is at least partially what the book is about. I picked it up partially for the title though I don't think he's going to look at the Imperial Dogs who actually came up with the phrase and partially cos it's got the Iggy crowdwalking photo on the cover * it was £4.99 which is some factor. It is pretty interesting, though main reason I went back to the shop it was in was taht I'd seen a cheap copy of the Byrds day by day book which I think is called So You Want TO Be a rock'n'roll star. Should have grabbed it when I first saw it cos it was gone when I went back but that shop which seems to be a gay erotica shop from the outside but has had some great rock finds over the years. Always seems to have some interesting stuff on a pretty large discount along with other non-gay esoterica.

Also picked up Morrissey's autobiography though I've only looked at the first chapter so far.

& got to mention that Touch & Go Complete Anthology thing my brother got me for my birthday which is very interesting.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Creating Country Music: Fabricating Authenticity, by the late Richard A. "Pete" Peterson is my new favorite book on music: masterfully organized and argued, very informative and insightful about the subject at hand and equally useful for understanding the history of the music industry in general.

Wild Mountain Armagideon Thyme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 January 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link

This looks interesting:

Sounds of the Metropolis: The 19th Century Popular Music Revolution in London, New York, Paris and Vienna by Derek B. Scott

o. nate, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Has anybody read Ben Fong-Torres' book about Top 40 radio in the US?

MaresNest, Friday, 31 January 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

I got put off the David Byrne book pretty early on, when he refers to Bath as a small town "a few hours East of London". Petty, I know, but factual errors which are easily check able always make me wonder how much of the rest of it is just made up. Once I'd got in that state, the rest of it just started to smack of "look at me, I'm cooler than you". ( Which he is, but whatevs)

At other times in the past few weeks I've read No Sleep till Saltburn (failed music journo shows just why, publishing his fevered teenage fanzine notes from the height of NWOBHM), Choosing Death (a fairly superficial skim of how the Death and Grind scenes started, but still with a couple of new pieces of info) and the KLF book (entertaining, but inconsequential).

Started Lords of Chaos the other night and have Louder Than Hell in a pile with Varg's book on Scandinavian religion(s) amongst others awaiting reading.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Has anybody read Ben Fong-Torres' book about Top 40 radio in the US?

― MaresNest, Friday, January 31, 2014 9:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, but i read his book about Little Feat and it was decent. Really a Lowell George bio, to tell you the truth.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

Looking forward to getting the new david Stubbs book Future Days on Krautrock. Hopefully going to get taht through the door over the next couple of days. Nice to see that the local chain newsagent got copies in but it was €10 more than I paid for it.

NO sign of HMV starting selling books yet, have been hoping that Bob Stanley would come in cheap.

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link

Oh & read Bathing In Lightning Colin Harper's book on John Mclaughlin up to the mid 70s which was great. Read it since the previous posting on here anyway

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

I think Byrne's How Music Works lives up to its title, in terms of his experience, from the 60s on, live and in studios, also different business models employed for creating, promoting, distributing albums, times the luck of, for instance, crashing in a schoolmate's pad almost directly across the street from CBGB's, and why that was such a good place for bands and audiences (yet pointing out that other seemingly equally likely venues somehow failed to grow or sustain a scene).
He alternates the personal experiences with historical overviews of recording technology and related biz matters, how they impacted the aesthetics, and the psychology (quotes somebody who walked into a room and encountered a friend listening to lovely recorded music *all by himself*: it was like catching somebody jerking off). Ends with a great history of the whole Music of The Spheres thing, from Ancient Greeks to Modern Geeks: he's got aome zings, but he's into it too.
He doesn't talk that much about inspiration/what a song of his is About or "Don't know where this cosmic stuff comes from, man, I just write it down,", nor does he (past the somewhat stiff first chapter) get too lecture-y or formulaic.
The ebook's got music files, but haven't heard 'em.

dow, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

(quotes somebody who walked into a room and encountered a friend listening to lovely recorded music *all by himself*: it was like catching somebody jerking off) In the early days of record (maybe cylinder?)-collecting.

dow, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

Anyone read these?

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18377990-yeah-yeah-yeah

St.-Etienne guy's epic history of pop since 1950(?)

Or Greil Marcus' new History of Rock and Roll in Ten Songs

Tempted by both but don't know if I want to pull the trigger

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 17 August 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

Read a few chapters in Bob Stanley and each one was an ace. Know next to nothing about GM book.

Mannditar Doggsitar Starrkeytar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 August 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

I read Yeah Yeah Yeah, I find the first half of the book pretty fun and informative but the closer it got to our times, the more I found it naive and dull. As a whole it's good, especially if you were hit by Napster at age 12 like me and never got to fully live the singles era, and of course it's pretty anti-rockist. Also, the unfair thing is that I haven't read the last R&B chapter, which renders my criticism null.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 17 August 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

third of the way through future days and it's excellent so far

ned's atomic raggett (electricsound), Sunday, 17 August 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

Need to get and read the Stanley book.

Nitpicks and compliments in W. Post freelancer's review I just read:

His personal taste as a dance musician is refreshingly far from the “rockist,” Led Zeppelin-worshiping tendencies of so many pop historians. Perhaps as a result, when the music gets louder, his facts occasionally get blurry, as when he dates the rise of thrash metal a bit too late, wrongly refers to Black Flag as a D.C. band (though the group’s onetime singer Henry Rollins is from the area), and uses the term “heavy metal” much as it was first used in the ’70s, with no regard for the difference between the pop-chart success of hard rockers like AC/DC and the long-term influence of metal royalty Black Sabbath. But much of this is forgivable because of the way Stanley writes, as if he were engaging the reader in conversation rather than delivering a treatise. His affable writing style is punctuated by moments of wit and insight, even when some of his stories sound apocryphal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/yeah-yeah-yeah-the-story-of-pop-music-from-bill-haley-to-beyonce-by-bob-stanley/2014/08/13/10aedd7c-2158-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 August 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2014/09/your_favorite_books_about_new.html

Fave books about New Orleans musicians with more books and stories added in the comments

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 September 2014 04:43 (nine years ago) link

Here were some of them:

Under a Hoodoo Moon," Dr. John (with Jack Rummel)
"Up from the Cradle of Jazz," Jason Berry
"I Hear You Knockin'," Jeff Hannusch
"The Brothers Neville," the Neville Brothers (with David Ritz)
"Rhythm & Blues in New Orleans," John Broven
"Triksta," Nik Cohn
"Song for my Fathers: A New Orleans Story in Black and White," Tom Sancton
"Unfinished Blues," Harold Battiste with Karen Celestan
"From Stapleguns to Thumbtacks: Flyer Art from the 1982-1995 New Orleans Punk and Hardcore Scene," Pat Roig
"Roll With It: Brass Bands in the Streets of New Orleans," Matt Sakakeeny (artwork by Willie Birch)
"Blue Monday: Fats Domino and the Lost Dawn of Rock n'Roll," Rick Coleman
"Huey 'Piano' Smith and the Rocking Pneumonia Blues," John Wirt
"Ernie K-Doe: The R&B Emperor of New Orleans," Ben Sandmel
"Groove Interrupted: Loss, Renewal & the Music of New Orleans," Keith Spera
"New Atlantis: Musicians Battle for the Survival of New Orleans," John Swenson
"The Definition of Bounce: Between Ups and Downs in New Orleans," 10th Ward Buck and Lucky Johnson with Alison Fensterstock
"Bounce: Rap Music and Local Identity in New Orleans," Matt Miller
"Creole Trombone: Kid Ory and the Early Years of Jazz," John McCusker
"Not Just Another Thursday Night: Kermit Ruffins and Vaughan's Lounge," Jay Mazza

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 September 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

I have that Creole Trombone book but haven't started it yet. Still busying reading Louis Armstrong, Master of Modernism!

Jazzbo, Friday, 19 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

I really enjoyed Sidney Bechet's yarn-spinning autobio, Treat It Gentle. Funny title, considering that he could be quite the badass, as documented by others. Anybody who want to stage a one-person show might well consider basing it on this book.

dow, Friday, 19 September 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Would like to read that Sidney Bechet book.

Came to thread to say I read the first few chapters of Please Be With Me, A Song For My Father, Duane Allman, by Galadrielle Allman, and this thing is amazing well-written so far.

Do Not POLL At Any Price (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Recent book about Brian Jones by guy who wrote Iggy and Bowie books looks interesting.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 November 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

Matos' forthcoming opus looks pretty awesome: http://www.harpercollins.com/9780062271808/the-underground-is-massive.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 22 November 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

Sounds of Two Eyes Opening, Sinecure Books fourth book, and the follow up to Houston Rap, is a narrative of Southern California chiaroscuro by master photographer Spot, the legendary hardcore producer and engineer for the Misfits, Black Flag, Hüsker Dü and Minutemen.

Edited by Sinecure's Johan Kugelberg and punk expert Ryan Richardson, Sounds of Two Eyes Opening displays shots of punks and bands and clubs in dark swatches of blacks and grays with brief illuminations of white skin. These images sit in contrast to promise of the unbroken horizon of Spots’ beach photographs: youthful beauty, toned bodies, gleaming teeth, big hair, the eternal trilogy of sun/sand/sea.

Spanning the late 1960s through the early 1980s, Sounds of Two Eyes Opening offers an amazing portrait of Southern California coastal life: surfing, bikinis, roller skating and skate boarding’s fledgling days are set in contrast to iconic shots of all the key denizens of hardcore punk rock as it is being invented; candid shots of Black Flag, The Germs, Minutemen abut everyday punk, fans, cops, clubs and now shuttered rehearsal spaces.

Sounds of Two Eyes Opening is presented as a hardbound, 272 page book,

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 November 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

has anyone looked at eric weisbard's top 40 democracy? http://www.amazon.com/dp/0226896188/

looks pretty interesting to me. this short-ish essay that he wrote caught my attn: http://lareviewofbooks.org/essay/keep-debates-pop-songs

dyl, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

Barry Blesser's 'Spaces Speak', about the history of acoustic architecture, conscious design of spaces meant for the performance of music, and how it impacted the composition of music itself. From caves to Stonehenge to Mayan temples to Churches to Radio City Music Hall etc.

http://www.blesser.net/spacesSpeak.html

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

I just finished reading Sheila E's autobio. Part of it is about music (obvs) and the other part is personal history stuff. Her writing isn't like ~spectacular~ or w/e but her voice is very strong and the things she chooses to write about are distinctive and interesting. The way she writes about her love of music really resonated with me, and the chapter(s) where she meets and becomes friends with Prince are some of the most tender words I've read about friendship in a long time. I guess I'd recommend it if you like drumming, Prince, Sheila E, or all of the above.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

I've been thumbing through Talkin' to Myself: Blues Lyrics 1921-1942: http://www.amazon.com/Talkin-Myself-Blues-Lyrics-1921-1942/dp/0415973783

which is just an enormous collection of old blues lyrics. It is wonderful.

Lorde 2Pac Beck Mashup (crüt), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Xpost I adore Sheila E and u know how I feel about prince. Onto the reading list it goes!

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link

otm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link

I saw her give a talk and reading at B&N. She said some people bugged her that there wasn't enough Prince in the book, to which her reply was "it's about my life, not Prince's." She seemed nice but I was going to give this book a pass based on that, but now I am intrigued.

Cutset Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:40 (nine years ago) link

Is there a decent book about the Cure? I kind of expect not...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link

Ten Imaginary Years is great. I don't think there's a good one that covers the subsequent 26.

the incredible string gland (sic), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

there's more than enough prince in the book! it's about her life, not his. and the way she talks about his impact on her life is really beautiful imo, even if things didn't exactly work out in the long run.

the last part is heavy on the devotion to the lord, but one of the most interesting things about her book: not a word about wanting or having children. either they are off limits entirely or she doesn't feel compelled to talk about it. either way, kudos, lady!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link

Recently finished Herbie Hancock's autobio, Possibilities. Written in a no-frills style, I think he does a good job of relating what it's like to play his music, without assuming musical training on the part of the reader. Many funny little anecdotes about Miles Davis and his working methods. One never-been-told-before sordid revelation. His sister sounds really interesting also - the passages about her untimely death and its aftermath are particularly affecting. You have to be able to stomach a lot of references to his Buddhism; this aspect I felt stopped just short of being annoying. Overall I do feel I know the man better now.

Just cracked a new Peggy Lee bio called Is That All There Is? by an guy who's previously written about Chet Baker and Lena Horne. This already feels like it's going to be overwhelmingly entertaining and fascinating.

Josefa, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I thought herbie was a sc13nt0log1s7?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

you're thinking of Chick Corea

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

No I know chick is, but I thought it was the both of them.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

i heard him talking about it in a radio interview a few weeks ago
it was pretty shocking and not related to scient0logie

La Lechera, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Barry Mazor provided a very appealing description of Eric Weisbard's Top 40 Democracy in last Saturday's Wall Street Journal. The online review isn't available now to non-subscribers, apparently (WSJ's inconsistent w that), and I don't know how Salon manages such things, but just in case this link
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/07/your_music_snobbery_is_all_wrong_how_top_40_radio_made_the_mainstream_as_interesting_as_the_margins/?utm_content=bufferff0a2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer stops working, here's an excerpt of their excerpt:

Formats let music occupy a niche in capitalism and—as with Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show, with its monologue and interviews structure and MOR appeal—connect music to other show-business realms as well. Genres are different. Ordinary people don’t proudly identify with formats, but some do identify with genres. One can have a hit song that goes “I was born country”; probably not “I was born adult contemporary.” Music formats like MOR, AC, and Top 40 were crossover spaces, with no single dominant genre. A trickier category is music, like country, with both format and genre identity, making for something more porous in definition than honky-tonk, soul, or that Bruce Springsteen fans might prefer. Black-oriented pop divided between rhythm and blues (R&B), a format, and soul or hip-hop genres. Rock, in its 1970s form, was the Uncola of formats: a lucrative format posing as a rebel genre. Music genres, more inherently ideological, chafe at formats, with their centrist, commercial disposition.

Yet the very commercial tendencies that made radio formats, and the music they implanted in our consciousness, suspect aesthetically also made them trailblazers for the sounds, artists, and listeners left out by all that genre certainty. Formats, radio, and pop music deserve a much bigger place in the history of American culture than accounts rooted in genre and isolated records have afforded them. Their homogenizing tendencies popularized and routinized each eruption from the countercultural 1960s and 1970s and MTV 1980s to the grunge, gangsta, and new country 1990s. But equally important was this center’s ability to redirect music as a social force: from “serious” fans who were often straight, white, male, and affluent to listeners less vocal and coherent but no less invested in what they heard. That tension structures this book. The safe radio pop that so many commentators have reviled for so many valid reasons opened as many doors as it closed.
I probably won't agree with all of this, but wanna read it. (Mazor said it also traces the careers of the Isley Brothers and others, adapting to their audiences' changes.)

dow, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

Don't know that country ever was a format---"countrypolitan," sure, and now the national Nash FM chain incl. Nashville Idols, basically a Gen X Hat oldies format, maybe complicated by the return of Garth, though probably not---but why does he say that country is both format and genre, but rock and R&B are not? Oh well, like I said, I'm more interested in the historical road maps, but hoping to learn something conceptual as well.

dow, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

this year has been great for music books.

That big Beatles book
Bob Stanley's 'Yeah Yeah Yeah'
Viv Albertine's book
Simon Napier Bell's one about music publishing machinations
Was that Jesus and Mary chain book this year? If so, that even if they didn't cite (or use) my old article
I almost bought the Scott walker book, and may yet. It looks good but I can't nom it until I do.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link

Anyone read Stephen Hanley's book yet?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link

Need to read Viv's and Hanley's tbh

Read/am reading:

No Wave, Marc Masters
People Funny Boy, David Katz
Fela: The Life and Times of an African Musical Icon, Michael E. Veal

wince (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link

xpost thanx brio2 for posting:

http://www.mojo4music.com/18055/viv-albertine-book-of-the-year/">Mojo interview: http://www.mojo4music.com/18055/viv-albertine-book-of-the-year/

NPR's Ken Tucker put it on his '14 Best Music Top Ten: 9 albums, this book

dow, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link


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