Mia Farrow's son -- Ronan Seamus Farrow -- really creeps me out!

that's some weaksauce doubtcasting if you look at it in context of her whole journalistic career

someone lied to her ergo everyone lied to her case closed

i guess i'm playing devil's advocate here a bit. i admit i read that vanity fair article and was sickened by some of what was recounted. and it is hard for me to imagine why this little girl would have come forward and made these accusations to anyone if something awful hadn't happened.

the fact that she's still haunted by it as an adult pretty much puts the lid on any idea that this was about 'mia wanting to get back at woody' or whatever, imo.

the 1992 VF story (which i don't recommend reading actually if you're having a nice day and don't want it ruined) also casts the soon-yi thing in a much creepier light than it's generally depicted these days.

holy shit @ that 1992 story. like with the r. kelly situation, i didn't have any real awareness of how grotesque his reported behavior actually was.

heres the sequel from last year http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/11/mia-farrow-frank-sinatra-ronan-farrow

link?

xpost

heres the 92 one http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

this vanity fair article is truly horrific

its sure is, allen's hangers-on and his fame surely quashed all these accusations of allen and farrow's daughter, dylan

fuck

I remember all the accusations

i've seen most of woody allen's films and had literally never heard about the dylan allegations before today.

yeah I only knew about the soon-yi stuff and vague ideas about him being "creepy" but I didn't know about the dylan allegations. Maybe I was just a little too young when they first came out.

im okay w/ woody allen dying

we shd murder him whos in

disembowling harry

summary execution of known child molesters is morally justifiable

its settled then

distinguished ebay seller mordy sold me

Wow this is so disgusting, I had no idea, I only knew about the Soon Yi thing. Im no fan of Woody Allen, but now I have that fucking Whitlams song stuck in my head.

Ugh, I looked at the Vanity Fair thing again and it's just very hard to come up with an alternate explanation for all of the facts and evidence. "Farrow brainwashed her children" just doesn't cut it.

i've never focused on this story, but seeing that picture above of woody allen with that child on his lap at a baseball game, knowing that child grew up to become allen's wife, is horribly gross.

Guys, he made some funny movies tho

D0ug H3nw00d approvingly reposted this and I nearly flew into apoplectic rage:

Regarding that Ronan Farrow tweet about his father Woody Allen: It's interesting how much of the Allen-bashing is actually missing the point, that there are more murky issues hidden behind the powerful obfuscation engaged in by both mother and son. As a friend and colleague of mine put it (not using their name without their permission), what happened between Allen and the adopted daughter of his partner is actually fairly typical in transnational adoptions where adopted children are frequently not actually considered children/blood, and hence are subject to being sexualised differently.

This is neither excusing nor defending Allen: it's simply pointing out that the easy "feminist" ire at Allen is grasping at the most readily available object of derision. Yet Farrow, as this quote below demonstrates, is in fact someone who has obsessively gone around collecting children as if they were prizes to take home, even when she has not had the financial resources to actually take care of them. In contrast, as Dorothy Roberts shows us so brilliantly, Black women with children are constantly policed, surveilled, and demonised, and their connections to their children are constantly being broken and cast aside in the interest of a foster care system which privileges white women like Farrow and, indeed, serves to funnel Black children towards women like her. Farrow has also gone about shifting laws to enable her to do what she has wanted, and her life story is more a story about the brute force of power and lineage than that of a woman done wrong.

This is not to engage in the reverse, of simply slamming Farrow, but to point out that to simply exult in the words of Ronan Farrow (a young man who, despite his youth, is incredibly sophisticated and knows how to play both the media and is scarily positioned to become a voice in "international relations") is to ignore the murky, messy underbelly of Farrow's family history, and by that I mean the way she has gone about defining the meaning of family in ways that actually demonstrate so many of the issues around adoptions, particularly transnational and trans-racial ones, all the while persuading liberal and progressive feminists in particular to praise her as some sort of Madonna. If we're going to talk about Farrow and Allen, let's talk about ALL of it, not just one side.

And, by the way, that Vanity Fair article on her (linked below) is a hot mess, meandering and seemingly positioned more as a way to bolster Farrow's case than provide an interesting profile.

If you'd like to hear more about transnational adoptions, tune in to my podcast NEXT week, where I talk with Joy Messinger.
To hear more about feminism and its affective framings today, tune in THIS week, to hear me talk with Liza Featherstone.

This quote is from "Flexible Production: International Adoption, Race, Whiteness," by Anthony Shiu (with many thanks to the friend who sent it along), published in the journal Jouvert, special double issue, "Growing Up Elsewhere," Volume 6, Issues 1 - 2 (Fall 2001)

"But not all is easy for Farrow, and her eventual adoption of Soon-Yi Previn in 1977 was met by legal restrictions; federal law prohibited more than two visas per family for the purposes of international adoption. "We had our quota," Farrow writes:
"Forget it, the agency told us: to change the law would require an act of Congress. But we already had been sent a blurry black-and-white two-by-two-inch head shot of a child. . . . This was my daughter. . . . My old friends, Bill and Rose Styron, sought the help of Massachusetts Congressman Michael Harrington, and he agreed to sponsor the bill that was necessary. . . . Finally, in 1977, Congress passed the bill. Soon-Yi could come home." (179-80)[5]
And though the reach of her powers of influence may seem extreme in relation to "average" Americans, this excerpt dovetails nicely with the next section on the reformulation of international and transracial adoption law. Changing the law and having the connections to do so point to the relative ease with which Farrow can utilize her "connections" and take advantage of her standing in order to participate in the systems of universalist emotive love that she has constructed. These are amazing powers, yet not atypical; the recent history of (international) adoption law is also the recent history of arguments by whites against "reverse discrimination," all to allow the adoption of racialized children into homes that, while financially solvent, are oftentimes wholly unaware of how racialization will affect their children and unwilling to even acknowledge that international adoption is, in a sense, a will to power."

"grasping at the most readily available object of derision" you know the child molester, easy target

"a hot mess"

I KNOW!!! AAARGHHH!!!

"But the situation is more complicated. You see, Farrow WHAT LLALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HERE YOU LALALALA"

guys really who's the real monster - the person who molests a child or the person who adopts one?

s in fact someone who has obsessively gone around collecting children

in fact

wtf would inspire someone to write something like my god

wait wait wait

woody allen might be kind of a creepy guy?!?

"kind of a creepy guy"

Allen obsessives are mostly scum ime who don't treat people very nice(ly)

Jeeeeez, that '92 article is hard reading.

sarcasm xxp

I mean, just like the r kelly reaction 20 years later, it's like *slaps forehead* wtf

wtf would inspire someone to write something like my god

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:04 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

next level challops plus left cred-seeking plus secret blind WA love is my guess

btw I do love several Woody Allen films, like at one time I really deeply loved them. He was sort of a deity in my family. It's actually really depressing and painful to realize just how bad the evidence against him looks, and even though I partly "got over him" at some point, I still find it painful. Like I used to think "I'll watch Woody Allen movies with my kids one day" and I'm starting to feel like maybe I won't.

To hear more about feminism and its affective framings today, tune in THIS week, to hear me talk with Liza Featherstone.

I would, but I have to wash my hair.

IRL lols

to ignore the murky, messy underbelly of Farrow's family history, and by that I mean the way she has gone about defining the meaning of family in ways that actually demonstrate so many of the issues around adoptions, particularly transnational and trans-racial ones, all the while persuading liberal and progressive feminists in particular to praise her as some sort of Madonna. If we're going to talk about Farrow and Allen, let's talk about ALL of it, not just one side.

this shit makes me want to weep in fury and revulsion.

oh it's Y4sm1n N41r fwiw, didn't realize there was no credit on that.

As a friend and colleague of mine put it (not using their name without their permission), what happened between Allen and the adopted daughter of his partner is actually fairly typical in transnational adoptions where adopted children are frequently not actually considered children/blood, and hence are subject to being sexualised differently.

Imma need to see some stats that define this "fairly typical" thing.

yyyyeeeeah

i usually like henwood but yeesh at him approving of that

what on earth does "sexualized differently" mean

srsly get angrier the more i think about this:

And, by the way, that Vanity Fair article on her (linked below) is a hot mess, meandering and seemingly positioned more as a way to bolster Farrow's case than provide an interesting profile.

yeah a really boring meandering PR-y hot mess, complete with a horrifying account of child abuse as told by an adult woman with detailed memories of it, yawn, let's get back to discussing things that really matter like my podcast next week

man that article, or whatever it is. i have to wash my hands after reading it.