also lagoon that's a good point.
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
we've come a long way from thread title
or maybe not
yeah...when there's some public miscarriage of justice and someone who very likely did something terrible walks free, there's this sense, whether real or imagined, that the court of public opinion now matters, and we're all now jurors. so, it matters more if you want Woody Allen or George Zimmerman thrown in prison now that he wasn't, at least theoretically. it's difficult to quantify.
― some dude, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
it still blows my mind that there is someone who is either Woody Allen's son or Frank Sinatra's son and nobody seems totally sure. that's fucking crazy.
lol yeah
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
"Hi, I'm Arnold Nixon...or Presley. one of those."
― some dude, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
liv tyler thought warren zevon was her dad until she was like 12
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
nah todd rundgren
― da croupier, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
oh right
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
it does creep me out that mia and ronan seem to use that ambiguity to further tease/get back at allen.
"yeah, well while i was married to you i was fucking frank sinatra. your son isn't even your son!"
but again, not my family.
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
i knew zevon didnt seem quite there
― lag∞n, Monday, January 13, 2014 12:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
todd rundgren's son thought warren zevon was his dad, liv tyler thought todd rundgren was his dad, and steven tyler stared into the eyes of a cow and saw god
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
HER dad
nothing about Farrow also being less then a great person would detract from the story -- in fact the women who marry child molesters are often not such great people
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Luke Skywalker thought a young Jedi named Darth Vader betrayed and murdered his fathe!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, January 13, 2014 12:10 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't think anyone implied that ronan and mia's tweets (or generally odd behavior) had any bearing on whatever happened or didn't happen years ago.
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
i didn't know any of this tyler/zevon/rundgren stuff. it's turning me into william f. buckley.
― goole, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
hadn't heard the zevon/rundgren bit, but yeah bebe buell's daughter could be forgiven for not being sure what rock royalty line she was in
― da croupier, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
i made up the zevon/rundgren bit. it's amusing to think of this sort of rock-star-rid roundelay where rundgren raises tyler's kid, zevon raises rundgren's kid, phil lynott raises zevon's kid, etc.
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
hey don't leave out Elvis Costello from that equation
xp
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
rock-star-Kid
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
ew having sex with Elvis Costello
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
oh lol whoops
it doesn't help that i don't really like 70s rock that much
― goole, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 13, 2014 12:16 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i bet he's real clever in bed
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
his aim is true
― Mordy , Monday, 13 January 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
punch the cock
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Don't put on Ray Charles for your sex music.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
I assume ppl who are reading the 2013 vanity fair article are also reading the older vanity fair article from the early 90s, if not pls do so
In 2004, Orth wrote an article about Jackson serving alcohol to a 13 year old Japanese boy named Richard Matsuura in 1998 based on the stories of Myung Ho Lee, Jackson's former business advisor. NBC News' Mike Taibbi contacted Matsuura who said the story was completely false. Vanity Fair has since deleted all references to Matsuura from their website despite Orth's initial refusal to retract the story.
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
that's some weaksauce doubtcasting if you look at it in context of her whole journalistic career
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
someone lied to her ergo everyone lied to her case closed
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 January 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link
i guess i'm playing devil's advocate here a bit. i admit i read that vanity fair article and was sickened by some of what was recounted. and it is hard for me to imagine why this little girl would have come forward and made these accusations to anyone if something awful hadn't happened.
the fact that she's still haunted by it as an adult pretty much puts the lid on any idea that this was about 'mia wanting to get back at woody' or whatever, imo.
the 1992 VF story (which i don't recommend reading actually if you're having a nice day and don't want it ruined) also casts the soon-yi thing in a much creepier light than it's generally depicted these days.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 January 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link
holy shit @ that 1992 story. like with the r. kelly situation, i didn't have any real awareness of how grotesque his reported behavior actually was.
― reddening, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link
heres the sequel from last year http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/11/mia-farrow-frank-sinatra-ronan-farrow
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
link?
― ★feminist parties i have attended (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link
xpost
heres the 92 one http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211
― Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:28 (ten years ago) link
this vanity fair article is truly horrific
― Mordy , Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
its sure is, allen's hangers-on and his fame surely quashed all these accusations of allen and farrow's daughter, dylan
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
fuck
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link
I remember all the accusations
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link
i've seen most of woody allen's films and had literally never heard about the dylan allegations before today.
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link
yeah I only knew about the soon-yi stuff and vague ideas about him being "creepy" but I didn't know about the dylan allegations. Maybe I was just a little too young when they first came out.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
im okay w/ woody allen dying
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 03:45 (ten years ago) link
we shd murder him whos in
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
disembowling harry
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link
summary execution of known child molesters is morally justifiable
― Mordy , Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
its settled then
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
distinguished ebay seller mordy sold me
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:15 (ten years ago) link
Wow this is so disgusting, I had no idea, I only knew about the Soon Yi thing. Im no fan of Woody Allen, but now I have that fucking Whitlams song stuck in my head.
― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:31 (ten years ago) link
Ugh, I looked at the Vanity Fair thing again and it's just very hard to come up with an alternate explanation for all of the facts and evidence. "Farrow brainwashed her children" just doesn't cut it.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 04:34 (ten years ago) link