2013 Fall TV Thread: Previews, Evaluations, Ridicule and Mourning

well, considering they were actively losing older female viewers in the first few weeks and ratings haven't improved, i was curious if there'd been any effort to address the conceit that's presumably alienating them.

lawyer, doctor (super republicany), new ager (super liberalish), half-his-age blonde who -doesn't- try to determine everything about his life / butt in; seems to be a sequence of over-reactions

i would rather hear about the kids, as is there's kind of a weird like dad-is-just-some-guy-who-was-married-to-mom vibe

dad seems like a dork - the two sons seem to reflect him a lot (like the dumb kid in modern family)

the whole concept sounds like it could alienate women - especially the young wife being superhot - but three of the leads are women and easily get the chunk of screen time and storylines, and they're all funny/sympathetic to some degree. i think the creator wrote it loosely inspired by her own experience as a third wife

yeah the cast is terrific but its pretty definitely going to be cancelled. it's just funny that it was created by the creator of Target: Women and all the interviews were all "well she's not REALLY a trophy wife, she's just a young woman we can all respect" and everybody missed that making the young hottie the sympathetic lead over two single moms might actually alienate the kind of people watching ABC after The Goldbergs.

Is Patton Oswalt the narrator of The Goldbergs? Trying to pinpoint what it is that makes me turn off the TV/change channels within 10 seconds whenever that show comes on.

think so yeah

wow, good for brooklyn-99 - winning golden globes on the basis of what? half a season?

yeah, they'd only aired 11 episodes when the nominations were announced

seeing chelsea peretti onstage at the golden globes was pretty cool

hell yeah

yeah tvbythenumbers has brooklyn 99 as likely cancelled but considering fox gave it the after the superbowl slot and they bought a golden globe for it i can't imagine they're going to cancel it after just one year (esp since ken tremendous shows tend to improve dramatically in their second season).

happy for them cuz I want them to get season 2 but this is my third favorite show on Fox Tuesdays and Samberg's sometimes the worst thing about it.

Jake Johnston and Chris Messina def deserve a trophy more than ol' Cute'n'Screamy

not to mention Andre Braugher

oh how i wish Andre Braugher was gay irl (also wished the same for Adam Pally re: Happy Endings)

I find it hard to believe Fox would actually pay to buy Brooklyn 99 a Golden Globe. Or any show, really, they just don't care! Look how well those awards did for Arrested Development.

That said I already love Brooklyn 99 and it's probably only going to get better

yeah I really enjoy Brooklyn 99 now -- it took a few episodes to get going but it's really come around

anyone else watching space dandy? djp?

Really liked that Broad City pilot.

^ this was a happy surprise

fyi: killer women is terrible

dnw

mr veg dvr'd it why because trisha helfer ... it's like a hallmark movie masquerading as a tv show

It was readily apparent from the commercials.

yeah, i caught one episode, because I love that Cylon. sadly... awful

has anyone else watched Helix?

the acting is kinda b-movie-level awkward/terrible but there is something about the story that I really love. or maybe I'm just fangirling for Moore, idk

lol 'maybe'

I realized it had that guy from The 4400 but wasn't sure if i should really give it a shot. looks REALLY low budget. Didn't realize RDM was involved

i'm mr meeseeks look at me rick and morty thread

i like broad city

Me too.

watched the first ep, not really my style - opening and ending of the pilot really turned me off

i like it

is 'intelligence' any good, cbs aficionados?

i keep seeing spots for it and i didn't even recognize josh holloway without his sawyer haircut (and shirt, i guess)

didn't watch, apparently it is vv dull and formulaic

i always lol when i see that it's Sawyer from Lost. he disappeared for a while, didn't he?

Yeah, for some reason Taylor Kitsch got the film career that should rightfully have been his.

who among those clowns really made out well

hurley, obv., and i'm always seeing dr. chang in bit parts now, and michael emerson has made a real strong showing

xp lol, i actually just saw X-Men Origins: Wolverine the other week and was thinking that!

most of the Losties are doing ok but none of them have really broken out the way they did on that show, sadly - even Emerson or Terry O'Quinn

those clowns!

emerson's got a big hit show on cbs. sawyer seemed the most likely for stardom and maybe still is but so far it was a tiny appearance in mi3:ghost protocol and not much else in movies. seems like somehow it's harder now for ppl to make the jump from tv to movies? maybe i'm wrong but the only ppl who have made the jump or whatever in the past ten or so years i can think of really are steve carell (whose movie stardom predates his sitcom stardom really), tina fey (same), and jason segal (where his having been on freaks and geeks clearly played a larger role in fostering his movie career than himym). there are others i'm sure who did tv and then got a nice movie career going recently but nobody that really built off their tv stardom like bruce willis or george clooney did. i mean jon hamm hasn't done it yet. anyway i would've thought 'cbs drama' would've been a perfect fit for holloway but somehow they fucked up and put him in something that looks like it should be on nbc.

burn, sucks to be nbc

yeah some of them have had steady tv work, terry o'quinn has been in something ever since lost ended, even ol aussie whasername has been on one of those fairy tale shows. and emerson is holding it down but i don't think those viewers are going to translate into anything but a solid line of tv gigs for the next ~10 years for him. (and he's even got supposed movie star jim caviezel alongside him to lend a little glow.)

a little earlier on, but jennifer garner made the switch kind of uneasily, had to put up with being in a lotta romcoms. not exactly bruce willis stardom but i can't think of many others. huh.

think you're right balls - the only ones who've made the jump recently that i can think of are disney channel-types like Zac Efron

yeah, i love Emerson but i always saw Caviezel aka Jesus as the mainstream draw for Person of Interest. kinda shocked it's been on this long, but CBS I suppose

yeah garner's a good call. she never really became a big movie star (to an extent she kinda stopped trying, seems like when she works now it's clearly something she actually wants to do and not really a career move), but her push into movies got that style of hype and industry support that willis or clooney got. her appearance in catch me if you can was somehow a big deal. bradley cooper made the jump but he was never defined by his tv work, he was a dude that happened to be on alias and then the show he actually starred in was canceled pretty quickly for better or for worse (i liked kitchen confidential). i mean think of how many movies the dudes from friends headlined and the best hollywood can come up w/ for neil patrick harris is the smurfs?

well, post-doogie wasn't his career kinda nowhere before harold and kumar reset his image? which was a while before himym, but i kind of expect him to get… something… going after it ends (as opposed to say hannigan who will maybe find another tv role, having built up a second store of viewer goodwill kind of like david boreanaz did, only he seems to have flourished more).

what about anyone from the desperate housewives / gray's anatomy side of nighttime soapish shows? i never saw any of those so i don't really follow their actors.

o fuck you're right

HEIGL

can't believe i forgot heigl

eva longoria seems to have set her sights on something bigger than movie stardom. the possibility exists that i have had a fantasy wherein i'm rich (from 'something', something 'positive', not like just wall st) and she becomes my bride and we team up and take the white house by TURNING TEXAS BLUE.

Heigl had a good run for like, three years there, huh, and her career promptly fell off a cliff after that

is that the lifespan of Hollywood careers these days

didn't she have 'trouble' with being 'opinionated' or whatever i.e. not taking typical women-in-media bullshit?

melissa mccarthy is a weird case in that you could easily argue that she's actually the biggest sure thing movie star right now (as in if there was a melissa mccarthy vehicle opening in theatres next week it would almost definitely be #1 at the box office) and yet the sitcom she currently stars in is a just a footnote to her career, it's barely a bigger factor in her success than whether she played volleyball in high school or whatever. it has got to drive cbs insane and they can promote that show w/ 'hey we got melissa mccarthy - LOOK WE GOT MELISSA MCCARTHY - SHE HAS A TV SHOW - MELISSA MCCARTHY FROM THE MOVIES HAS A TV SHOW' and most of america is still 'yeah we love melissa mccarthy, but that show looks fucking awful'.

oh yeah that's a good one. when she broke out i was wondering if she had brought any fans to the table from that show, but i figured it was just that she was running shit and the film performances by themselves did it.

heigl burnt some bridges but she also got a bad rep, esp in yr us weeklies etc, which may have hurt her w/ her audience. she also made too many shitty movies but i don't think that alone scuttled her career, it didn't do the same w/ jennifer aniston.

well, she was like one of the handful of top tv comedy actresses of the 90s, and they gave her SO many chances at vehicles. i think heigl may not have been in such a solid position?

Everyone got super sick of Heigl after a long string of increasingly shit films in which she played the same horrible character. (I know this because I watched all of them while playing drinking games with friends at the ol' video store gig.) Honestly I don't think the mini-Knocked Up beef had that much to do with her falling out of favor.