the bbc sherlock series by the dr who 'bloke' and starring tim from the office

xps

true, it does just push the problem back to case selection… I think it's more of a problem for the guardsman one (because that's almost an arbitrary pick from the inbox iirc), less so for the dating-a-ghost one because… it crosses her mind to visit Sherlock *because* she's seen the invitation, maybe? Which means the investigation is secretly triggered by the wedding, as is the ghost date. And he accepts because he's drunk, because it's the stag, so… that's ok enough for me.

All the people I've met who whip their coats on like Sherlock tend to be complete prats.

sherlock is a complete prat, QED

So it felt a bit odd he would unjustly and immorally murder another innocent person to achieve this.

Loads of people don't think he's innocent (hence the death threats he receives), so I'm just going out on a limb here to say that photog probably doesn't think soldier is innocent.

Er, I was talking about the Royal Guard dude that the photographer almost murders, as a "rehearsal"... Of course he thinks Major Sholto is guilty, that's why he tries to kill him. But the Royal Guard guy has nothing to do with his revenge on Sholto, he just picks him because he happens to be wearing a similar belt.

tuomas is it really too much of a stretch to think that a person capable of plotting and carrying out the murder of a retired army major based on nothing more than grief and speculation is also capable of justifying the murder of someone else?

Perhaps Finnish psychopaths have intact moral centers and empathy?

"Probably a monomaniac" was the phrase used IIRC.

Also, soz for misreading! xp

I'm with Tuomas on this. While I think that a murderer wouldn't have much difficulty in justifying extra murders, he was planning the murder of a specific person for a specific reason - I see no reason why he would choose a method which required practise on someone who would therefore become to all intents and purposes just an innocent victim like his brother whose death he was avenging.

I'm with Ailsa in being with Tuomas, but it doesn't pay to analyse it too deeply

This was fairly disappointing. I wouldn't have minded it, but to make one of three episodes after a two year wait an extended slapstick-y sitcom seems a waste.

can't believe this sitcom about two mismatched bros sharing a flat and office had an episode that was like a sitcom

the mustache!

"Research" isn't a magic wand, though. If the Major was living in a secret location, and if all his employees signed an agreement of confidentiality, how was he able to locate not one but five them among millions of Britons, and on top of that find their dating profiles? (The Major didn't seem like he was exorbitantly rich, so those five women must've represented quite a large proportion of the number of single women working for him.)

it sort of is a magic wand, though. he had the persistent assiduousness of a murderer hell-bent on revenge. it doesn't matter exactly how he found them. the women each have a different story about how they met him, suggesting a diversity of methods. you can fill in the blanks yourself if you'd like but it's not a "plot hole".

egg
chair?
sitty thingy?

he's clueing for looks

drunk clueing was the best part of the episode

No this was the best part of the episode:
http://s.mlkshk.com/r/WL81

Or at least 2nd best...

http://s.mlkshk.com/r/WL9A

sitty thing????

?deaded?

Enjoyed this a lot, until what happened at the end. I really don't get the obsession with someone who is, to those that have read the books, such a minor character.

the fancy house is on the outskirts of my countryside idyll.

its a very (in)famous house round here.

i know the man who made the spiral staircase that was featured a few times.

'sherlock is actually a girl's name'

moriarty.gif was also a nice touch.

Looks like bobbins to me...

Watched this with my dad, who is head of hearing, so we had the subtitles on - it was like the show was GIFing itself as it went along

Could have done without the voiceover saying "remember to keep watching after the adverts.

Thought the MAJOR spoiler from halfway through was very, very well done and I'd like to see exactly where it's been flagged before other than what they mention.

AMERICANS - AVOID THIS SPOILER AT ALL COSTS

'Adverts', I meant 'end credits'.

I'm not sure whether the mention of the Sussex Downs and beekeeping means he ends up with Janine after all.

Yes. But I like 'head of hearing' anyway...

The only way to get out of that typo was to write "no I meant my dad is hard", but then I thought, no.

Anyway, that was fun, but the end to the Magnus stuff was a bit disappointing.

Bottom bit of that spiral staircase looked like Dougal from Magic Roundabout

man ilx does not care about this episode

A little difficult to discuss without spoilers, I think.

Yeah, I think that's the problem - spoiler #1 pretty much ruins the series for anyone and spoiler #2 would upset some people.

ruins the series for anyone

idk what this spoiler is yet but lol

Spoiler 1 was a bit obvious and Spoiler 2 was kind of "ah well, okay I guess"

What I mean is the spoiler is REALLY a BFD and affects both episodes from this series in a huge way.

Like if you knew Darth Vader was Luke's father before you saw Star Wars (or A New Hope if you're that way inclined) for the first time. <homerleavesthecinema.gif>

This episode almost made up for the previous two, for me.

still sad that the reveal wasn't that Magnuson was a terminator. the mind palace visualization stuff was a little too obvious after they spent time with Sherlock going through his own.

Was it suggesting that if an individual employed by the police and/or the state was to shoot another individual (albeit one who was a bit creepy and who was blackmailing others), this might be sanctioned by the UK government?

Daily Mail was upset about the programme's left-wing bias, in today's paper.

Is that thing about magnetic swipe cards and smartphones true IRL? Cos I keep them together like that basically.

So the end credits thing: not some swashbuckling Renaissance-period action thing??

http://members.questline.com/Article.aspx?articleID=17783&accountID=1285&nl=10213

this says no to the mag strip thing

Regarding the end spoiler: it was just animated gif, right? (Unless you count the post-credit scene, but I take that was more of a meta gag, not something diegetic.) So it could be anyone behind it, not necessarily the person in the gif? Of course the Rules of Drama would require for it to be him, but OTOH Sherlock has occasionally managed to bend those rules in an interesting way, so I hope they're doing it with this reveal too. (Or at least I'm hoping that, if it really is him, the explanation won't revert to some "identical brother" or "he just faked it" silliness.)

Also, while I mostly enjoyed this episode, I thought the way they defeated Magnussen felt a bit too easy, since the writers' and the actor had done a nice job in making him a memorably icky villain. For a supposed mastermind, he was pretty stupid in revealing the secret of his secret vaults to Sherlock and Watson, right? I mean, after that he was fair game for anyone who wanted him dead; even if he was sure Sherlock and Watson wouldn't kill him, they could've simply tipåed off someone who would be willing to do it, and based on what Magnussen's actions, there probably wouldn't have been a shortage of candidates.

In fact, I was pretty sure the twist at the end was gonna be that Mycroft's men were actually gonna shoot Magnussen, since it seemed Sherlock wanted to make it clear Mycroft would learn his secret by shouting it out loud. But now I don't quite get it: what was the point of Sherlock shouting it, if it wasn't for Mycroft's benefit?

"tipåed" = "tipped"

just watched. enjoyed.

Elliot Gould's Marlowe.

Just sayin...