VITA

so is soul sacrifice worth playing? i plugged it in on PS+ but not sure if i wanna waste the gigabytes yet, v v cursory internet searches didn't tell me much aside form inafune and EMOOOO

current amazong pricing is 250 for the walking dead bundle + a 32 gig card.
i am kinda doomed to get one of these after the holidays i think

http://www.amazon.com/Borderlands-2-Limited-PlayStation-Vita-Bundle/dp/B00HLT0YT0/
new edition slim vita is $170 + 32 gig card is $66 = $240
and even with probably 30+ games already dl'd from ps+, i simply can't handle that price until it hits $200. Another year i guess.

I'd still very much recommend a used first gen vita to the slim update, the difference in screen quality is vast.

i should really be posting on this thread more.

i have been playing this thing a bunch! aside from being a pretty dope device on which to play PS classics (started my MGS replay on PS3; moved the save and the game to my vita to continue) and a never-ending stream of free PS plus games (started fez again, loving it on here. also: gravity rush, uncharted, dragon's crown, spelunky, luftrausers, rogue legacy, olliolli2 all in various stages of backburner and/or mid-play), I've also been getting into these Spike Chunsoft visual novel things. Specifically, Danganronpa and Danganronpa 2 (although I bought Zero Escape so that's probably next).

I think I was already pretty effusive about DGR1 in the year-end poll but i'll say it again -- get on this if you have a vita! it's insane! the second one is so far a tiny bit of a letdown imo, but still good (and if you like the first as much as I did, it's a foregone conclusion, you'll play 2 anyway).

also last night i stared at my screen mouth agape because i unlocked a trophy called "Is it medicine or social skill?". The game is already full of twisty turny plot stuff which i was already like "wtffffffff" before the trophy, and then it popped up and i was like NOW YOU'RE QUOTING THE KNIFE? GET OUT OF MY BRAIN.

AC Liberty and the vita Killzone were both something like 60% off last month so I picked those up. Haven't touched Killzone yet. AC is something I've never played before so I don't know how this sits relative to others in the series but it so far feels hugely linear and gameplay light, I'm pretty much just walking from cutscene to cutscene with the option of collecting stuff here and there on the way if I can convince myself its worthwhile. Maybe that's normal for AC.

I hit a wall with Little Big Planet because I mostly play vita on the train, and I got to a level where it wanted me to start tilting the console around. I ain't doing that in public. But I feel like I'm pretty close now to having played every AAA vita game to ever come out so i guess that's something to aim for (does DGR count as one of those? You've convinced me to try it either way).

I doubt it counts as "AAA Vita". It's way too niche. Persona 4 minus the RPG, plus light Phoenix Wright-ing. I think the world collectively yawns and shrugs when you say "visual novel..." (I do too, though, so this game is more exception than rule.)

Glad you'll play it too! I really hope this console gets more love in the future... I really like it, and I love weird Japanese handheld games, but it seems like I maybe picked the wrong horse this time around. Looking at Atlus's releases on 3DS vs. Vita is painful. They get SMT4, countless Etrian Odysseys, Devil Summoner, and we get a dancing game?!

(well... and Persona 4, which is why I bought this thing in the first place... I guess I can't complain.)

the remote play element is making me consider doing a PS4/bloodborne/vita/64gigcard bourgiefuckhead amazon order of catastrophic proportions.

so persona 4, a vita bundle, a 64 gig card, a ps4 with last of us/infamous/shootshootkillfps, an extra joystick, bloodborne and the strategy guide and a 2 TB drive for the PS4 is a shade over 1k
next gen, you are so special

Persona 4 minus the RPG

Haha I can't tell you how appealing to me this is, given that I recently gave up on persona 4, 60 hours in, after one to many "long tedious crawl through a zero challenge dungeon only to reach a boss I had no chance against" situations. Loved everything else about it but I'm too old for that kind of jrpg grind.

The shine is coming off remote play a little for me. I'm getting connection drops around once every 15 minutes, ps4 is on ethernet, vita is literally 2 feet from my wireless router. Tried swapping out the router for a completely different one and it had no effect, so it can only be down to Sony hardware one way or another, leaves me without any other troubleshooting options really. And that's same-building LAN play, I've still not managed a playable experience over an Internet connection.

yeah, i only used remote play once, and i went through a few menus, and i was like "...i don't know about this."

olliolli 2 on the vita on the other hand i think i like more than the ps4 version. might be the controls or the lack of input lag or something but it is great!

and i need to take back what i said about danganronpa 2 being inferior... the end is some all-time mindfuck japanese video games shit. love it.

Yeah Olliolli definitely fits vita better, I think there's too much travel on the full sized dualshock analogue stick.

opting in here as well; splurged and got a Borderlands 2 edition, 64gig card and persona 4 gold
it was the goddamn ps+ that won me over; before I even get the system, I already have Soul Sacrifice, FF V, Gravity Rush, Uncharted, WIpeout 2048, Binding of Isaac, Metrico, Woah Dave!, Terraria, OlliOlli2, God's Eater Burst, Disgaea 3, Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, Dragon's Crown, Muramasa Rebirth, Limbo, Joe Danger, Rayman Origins, Sine Mora, Jet Set Radio, Darkstalkers Chronicle, SoundShapes, Castlevania Secret of the Night and two dozen more waiting for me
DAMN YOU SONY

AC Liberty and the vita Killzone were both something like 60% off last month so I picked those up. Haven't touched Killzone yet.

Gah, still haven't touched it...and now it's free with April's PS+.

i'm half-ish way through Zero Escape, good escape the room type game with some interesting wrinkles added on top

and the wrinkles are not as immediately apparent as i thought, it is a nice surprise when you get abt halfway thru

forks you need to get Spelunky and Rogue Legacy and La Mulana in that order

also Frozen Synapse

ps does anyone know when Axiom Verge comes out for the Vita

still waiting on that one. also waiting on the Vita versions of Super Mega Baseball (PLEASE), Towerfall: Ascension (PLEASE BUT NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS SUPER MEGA BASEBALL), Bastion, Papers Please, Hyper Light Drifter, Project Phoenix, Super Time Force Ultra, River City Ransom Underground, the second Trails In The Sky (seriously ugh @ that acronym), and Cosmic Star Heroine. but ugh "there are no good games coming out for Vita because it's a dead system" or something. I feel like the Vita has (or could have) a perfect place alongside Steam - a place where indie titles can break out in a strictly-regulated hardware environment, allowing them to make a definitive version of their game (although you can certainly do that on your own these days). but it's just such a great little handheld jukebox for indie thoroughbreds and weird little games which, when done right, totally justify things like buttons and d-pads. the Vita could absolutely be a console for the ages steering into its reputation being Steam's opportunistic little stepbrother brother.

also I feel like I mentioned this in some other thread, but if you're looking for a grip to make your Vita more ergonomic I really can't say enough good things about the PDP Trigger Grip (although I have an original Vita so idk what folks who use later models should use). they used to be cheap (I actually ended up buying two bc I broke my first after stepping on it like a living anti-drinking poster) but then I guess prices have started creeping upwards ever since stock started running low. regardless, Amazon still seems to have some:

http://www.amazon.com/PSVita-Trigger-Grips-Sony-PS-Vita/dp/B0072A4JVW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437718250&sr=8-2&keywords=pdp+trigger+grip+vita

they are stupid comfortable and have really good trigger buttons built in so if you are thinking about spending money to make your vita more comfortable when using it around the house (unless you have some giant bag, it's gonna make your Vita too big for any case), consider saving up for one of these or stalking eBay or something.

and I bought Virtue's Last Reward for some reason too

the lesson, as always: make sure to cop every PS Plus game for every platform on the basis of "just in case down the line," as it was given away for free like three years ago.

one of these days I feel like I should take a searching and fearless moral inventory of the effect of PS+ on my willingness to spend for games; there are a number of titles I'm holding back on buying because I"m sure that they'll be on PS+ at some point. on the other hand I do impulse-buy more random shit that goes on sale so on a practical level it may average out in the end.

and I continue to mourn like the Woman in Black for the continued absence of Pac-Man C.E. and/or DX; it's just too perfect. there's even a mini of C.E. already and of course it's one of like five minis that's not available on the Vita or PS4's PSNs.

of course over on the 3DS side they need to do a whole new round of Pac-Man Vs with Wii U and a bunch of 3DSeseseses (and Nintendo deviously forces you to keep your old model around when you upgrade rather than trade it in for credit, so anyone more than one generation deep on the 3DS has another one probably laying around somewhere so people probably have more of these than they think), so there are basically a lot of Pac-Man related threads that need to get picked up in general imo

so i got one of the PS TV's free with my ps4... anyone help with a few questions?

1. Can I use a third party PS3 dual shock with this thing? Seems like the cheapest option given PS4 dualshock are still £40 :-(
2. How big on average are the games? Trying to judge what size memory card (ugh) to buy

2. retail games are roughly between 1-3GB, indies 100MB-1GB. check that the games you want can be played on the PS TV as some are blacklisted - sometimes for good reasons (e.g. game uses Vita touchscreen) and sometimes for no good reason (Danganronpa in EU, some PS1 and PSP games)

not sure if it's too late now (did they close ps mobile yet?) but if you have the chance buy Oh Deer Alpha NOW, it is an amazing outrun style game for 49 cents

I got one for Christmas. With just the stock 8GB card, so my experience has been limited thus far, but I dig it. Almost everything peripheral to the actual game playing seems like junk (countless errors trying to connect to and download from the PS Store, remote access to music and video on my PC doesn't work at all, lots of browser errors and time-outs) but I've come to expect that from my PS3 so I'm dealing. The ease of stopping and starting a game (either via navigating between windows/apps or just turning the Vita off) is perfect, as I'd been thinking that the inconvenience of finding a save point in a game would be incompatible with my need to, like, get off the train and go to work.

I've been slowly accruing a collection (through PS+ and deep discount sales) and also intentionally sidelining most of the crossplay games I've bought with the intention of eventually snagging a Vita, so I have easily 100+ Vita-compatible games to dig into now. I'm totally spoiled for choice and a little paralyzed. So naturally I've been spending most of this week playing the decades-old FF1 (transferring my saved game from the PS3 was pretty painless) and Chrono Trigger. Oh, and Touch My Katamari. Having a good, portable Katamari game just about makes this thing worthwhile all on its lonesome.

Okay, an extended Katamari jag this morning was my first physical experience of overplaying a game. Headache, blurred vision, nausea, all the stuff they warn you about but that I've always scoffed at. And I've played a lot of games for way too long before with no ill effects. Don't know if it was just that game specifically or staring at the Vita screen for too long but that's something I'll need to be mindful of.

we might just get double-digit ILX Vita owners before Sony gives up on this thing entirely

Sony technically has, yeah? I thought I'd read that only third-party developers were making Vita games at this point.

I'm way into it. It's nice to be able to play games on the train and it's nice that a lot of the games seem geared towards shorter playtimes. Beyond the Vita-specific games, there are a ton of PS1 and PSP classics I haven't gotten around to. PS3 cross play and cross save has been pretty painless on the games that support it. Remote play (even leaving aside the fact that only like seven PS3 games support it) is pretty much a laggy bust, unfortunately.

I can't even imagine what magic lies ahead once I can afford to buy a memory card larger than the perfunctory 8gb one that came with the system.

agreed, the Vita library is super stacked; you are in for a good time. I would have guessed that Sony would have wanted to keep memory cards cheap in order to incentivize people into buying more stuff on PSN, but maybe proprietary memory cards are the harsh truth of being the company that runs an Amazon Prime-level awesome deal like PS+

proprietary memory cards are the harsh reality of a company with a history of shitty proprietary formats, from DAT tapes to minidisc to ATRAC to MemorySticks. The prices they charge for their Vita memory cards can be 8 times the equivalent microSD card, fuck supporting that bullshit.

yeah but that screen

A lot of Sony's practices which seem like unfair cash grabs are ultimately and counterintuitively geared towards disincentivizing the consumer from giving Sony even more of their money. Like, for instance, if the PS3 could support more than a 1TB drive or if I could save all of my downloaded PSN games to an external hard drive for later retrieval and installation, I would buy literal shitloads of games. But I'm pretty much limited to buying a more sensible amount of whatever will actually fit on my console. If 64GB Vita cards weren't so expensive, I'd buy several of them and happily fill them up. So because Sony wants to charge $100+ for their proprietary nonsense, they've potentially lost out on hundreds of dollars more in game sales. And I'm just one Vita owner.

I really need to upgrade my memory card. So many games to try but I can only park a handful on my system at a time.

Zero search results for Orgarhythm! Haven't played too much yet but it's kinda great. A real-time strategy/rhythm game with a dancing god and his dancing troops taking down enemies on the beat.

if I could save all of my downloaded PSN games to an external hard drive for later retrieval and installation

pretty sure that the online content is redownloadable forever, including the PS+ content

which is odd and irritating because, even if not gaming, it's worth going in and clicking on each game to add it to your library... even if you don't own that platform, because if you later own it, all those clicks become useful

holy shit - 2k apparently released a port of Enemy Unknown a few days ago! apparently it's pretty buggy but this + Earthbound showing up just in time for my trip to Knoxville for Big Ears is delightful news

and now it looks like the GOTY edition of Civ Rev 2 is coming out on Tuesday, lord have mercy

FYI, y'all, I've taken to combing through the Vita listings in the PSN store every week because I always seem to find sale items that aren't listed on, y'know, the weekly sale page. That seriously has to be the most inept corporate website I've ever encountered.

Seconded, only i now have too much back inventory to even check anymore

For instance, Earth Defense Force 2 and the new Corpse Party are both currently on sale and neither is listed as such.

I inherited one of these; is there anything I need to be playing?

EDF 2 and Persona 4 Golden

There are two Zero Escape games available... Virtue's Last Reward and and Zero Time Dilemma. The first one, 999, may also be, I can't remember. Tbh I've only played ZE2, but it is surprisingly fantastic.

Big, big, big second on Persona 4 Golden. Pretty much one of the only JRPGs I've had the patience to complete in the past ~5 years (this, and Tactics Ogre PSP, and Persona 3 Portable, pretty much).

Danganronpa 1 and 2 are fantastic as well.

A bunch of stuff you may have played on other consoles, are very good on the Vita... Spelunky, Everyday Shooter, Telltale stuff (Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us), Fez, Hotline Miami, Dragon's Crown... if I think of any more I'll post but that's almost 20 games, should keep you busy (esp. with the length of Persona 4).

And then there's the PSP library you can play too...

I honestly don't think I've played all that many Vita exclusives, tbh. I have a bunch but I still haven't upgraded past the 8 GB memory card so that limits my options. I use it mainly for PS1 classics/old stuff in general and anything cross-platform. It's a pretty great portable RPG machine, if that's your bag. I've been playing a lot of XCOM and Dragon's Crown lately.

I can imagine that people might pooh-pooh the Vita out of hand for its dearth of impressive exclusives, but it's pretty cool to be able to play a lot of those non-exclusive games on a handheld platform, imo. RPGs, f'rinstance, that I'd likely never get through at home but that I can easily chip away at an hour at a time on the train.

i have been playing the first persona game. it is not a very good game. it's interesting the ways it seems to have been retrofit in light of the success of the latter iterations tho