2008 Primaries Thread

hillary = unitas, obama = namath

Oh, come on. All I'm trying to say is that it really isn't reflective of the majority view if I don't like Obama's speeches.

"then i was like, do you KNOW where this finger has been??"

so just to change it up, if mccain gets it in the GE - how come nobody makes a deal out of him cheating on his 1st wife?

not that i give a fuck but i presume a lot of republicans do

Here is a quote from the article I just finished (which, I should emphasize, is an academic journal): "At long last, and despite some flickering dissent, there now seems to be near-consensus that by anything approaching elite standards most citizens think and know jaw-droppingly little about politics."

You can probably see the problems with that one.

Sebelius didn't wait - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080129/ap_on_el_pr/obama_sebelius

I guess Hillary's never gonna be majority leader, huh

so obama is top 40 and hillary is indie rock?

Don't kill my buzz.

hrc: kelly osbourne
obama: usher
edwards: beck
mccain: phil collins
romney: daughtry
huckabee: scott stapp

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080128/state-of-union-clinton-obama/images/3a71a2cc-38e8-491e-a4bd-0058c2cd418c.jpg

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I just had a small revelation. Clinton might just win February 5th based on this bullshit "Obama was mean to me at the State Of The Union" storyline. Mark my words, it might very well work. It's the same sympathy vote tactic they employed in New Hampshire, and people are getting fooled again. I feel sick...

she won't make that point herself, but she certainly won't stop the media from reading into shit like that. it's a blip on the media screen that will most likely be forced out of frame by Florida tomorrow and her continued statements that its delegates should be seated.

i sympathize with your dread but let's not get carried away.

I just had a small revelation. Clinton might just win February 5th based on this bullshit "Obama was mean to me at the State Of The Union" storyline. Mark my words, it might very well work. It's the same sympathy vote tactic they employed in New Hampshire, and people are getting fooled again. I feel sick...

Is the Democratic primary race really going to whipsaw back and forth based on who was last allegedly victimized by their opponent and/or the nat'l media? It sometimes feels like that.(n.1) That's no way to choose a nominee or to find the best person to win the GE. Ridiculous.

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(n.1) e.g., HRC was mean to everyone by acting like the presumptive nominee before Iowa; Obama and/or the nat'l media were mean to HRC before New Hampshire; the Clintons were mean to Obama before South Carolina; Obama was mean to HRC right before Florida/Super Tuesday.

What's this now?

Huge photo so I won't hotlink it here, but Obama was actually talking to Claire McCaskill:

http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/Clinton%20greets%20Kennedy%20with%20Obama%20turned.jpg

noise noise noise

amy klobuchar! u go

xp

"Obama faces other direction" is really a story now?

In some quarters, apparently.

Yes it was a big story on cable news today, and it's getting a lot of play from Hillary-loving bloggers.

both of them?

That is seriously the most middle school fucking thing I've heard in a while.

Gossip Girl wouldn't be interested in this shit.

I should go watch Gossip Girl.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8090/1184040522276lb8.jpg

"He's mean to me." "She's meaner to me." "The media is baiting me." "She's slighting me." "This is too ugly and unbecoming." "That hurts my feelings."

No way to choose a nominee.

Angry black men, runnin' amok.

Not shakin' hands.

Refusin' to smile.

SOTU thing was pretty silly. I think they're talking about it because the actual speech was so goddamn boring.

stand up sit down fite fite fite

cf comments here:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/obama-on-the-st.html

That said I bet Hillary was sorta trying to mess with him by walking right over there in a bright red suit to shake hands with Ted Kennedy.

. . . she was gonna start a fistfight until Kennedy cut her off.

NH Union Leader is PISSED at Hil:

Hillary's word: It's worth nothing

14 hours, 42 minutes ago

COURTING VOTERS in Iowa and New Hampshire, last August Sen. Hillary Clinton signed a pledge not to "campaign or participate" in the Michigan or Florida Democratic primaries. She participated in both primaries and is campaigning in Florida. Which proves, again, that Hillary Clinton is a liar.

Clinton kept her name on the Michigan ballot when others removed theirs, she campaigned this past weekend in Florida, and she is pushing to seat Michigan and Florida delegates at the Democratic National Convention. The party stripped those states of delegates as punishment for moving up their primary dates.

"I will try to persuade my delegates to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida," Clinton said last week, after the New Hampshire primaries and Iowa caucuses were safely over.

Clinton coldly and knowingly lied to New Hampshire and Iowa. Her promise was not a vague statement. It was a signed pledge with a clear and unequivocal meaning.

She signed it thinking that keeping the other candidates out of Michigan and Florida was to her advantage, but knowing she would break it if that proved beneficial later on. It did, and she did.

New Hampshire voters, you were played for suckers.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Hillary's+word:+It's+worth+nothing&articleId=0853268a-d982-4190-81e8-740ae942f510

she's got the red suit! retreat!

Glad you think it's a silly story too Daria, and I agree Clinton was probably trying to instigate something like this just by walking over there. But I mean... keeping this story alive is basically Clinton strategy today. This is their end game.

Hey you know one of the advantages of being a woman candidate is that you can wear any bright color suit you want.

Union Leader is a Republican paper AFAIK they don't even endorse a Democrat.

Hey you know one of the advantages of being a woman candidate is that you can wear any bright color suit you want.

Obama couldn't get away with wearing a red suit before Labor Day.

True, they endorsed McCain. But obviously I, for one, would like the "Hillary is a contract-breaking opportunist" to be the media narrative for a couple days.

I think the media's driving it, guess there was a lot of chatter in the press gallery (some pundit wrote that) again probably because Bush said nothing interesting whatsoever (sad - what happened to mars, bitches?)

the interpretation of who-didn't-greet-whom is fucking retarded, let's please move on

I remember lol'ing so hard @ the Mars thing.

Human-animal hybrids

can we call an ilx-wide moratorium on not jumping up and down in a pavlovian frenzy to whatever bullshit controversy the media is drumming up to sustain interest in this race between three pretty good candidates? i usually find ilx somewhat sane on things like this and i'm starting to feel like half of you of been body-snatched and replaced by youtube commenters

xpost yeah elmo!

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