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Judge Questions Legality of N.S.A. Phone Records
By CHARLIE SAVAGE
A decision finds that keeping records of Americans' phone calls probably violates the Constitution and orders the government to stop collecting data on two plaintiffs.
Document: Federal Judge's Ruling on N.S.A. Lawsuit

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/16/nsa-surveillance-60-minutes-cbs-facts

Didn't see the 60 Minutes piece but Ackerman did, and debunks some of it

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

May as well release this bombshell late Friday during the holiday season:

Exclusive: Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

May as well release this bombshell late Friday during the holiday season:

Exclusive: Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220

Uh, shit. The moment you think it can’t get worse …

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 21 December 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

But several said that RSA also was misled by government officials, who portrayed the formula as a secure technological advance.

"They did not show their true hand," one person briefed on the deal said of the NSA, asserting that government officials did not let on that they knew how to break the encryption ...

Martin Hellman, a former Stanford researcher who led the team that first invented [public key cryptography], said NSA experts tried to talk him and others into believing that the keys did not have to be as large as they planned ...

New RSA Chief Executive Art Coviello and his team still wanted to be seen as part of the technological vanguard, former employees say, and the NSA had just the right pitch.

...so yr story is, you were a security firm with decades of experience in cryptography, and the national security agency came to you with a powerpoint about how your encryption methods were overkill and you should use their cool in-house formula, and you were like, this seems legit? how do you expect me to--

No alarms were raised, former employees said, because the deal was handled by business leaders rather than pure technologists.

o

I expect RSA will get sued out of existence.

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Saturday, 21 December 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link

rsa should sue nsa for misleading them about the purpose of the $10 million they left on the elmo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/edward-snowden-after-months-of-nsa-revelations-says-his-missions-accomplished/2013/12/23/49fc36de-6c1c-11e3-a523-fe73f0ff6b8d_story.html?hpid=z1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/todays_paper/updates/

Washington Post newsprint headline for their top of page A1 interview: Edward Snowden: 'I already won'

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:33 PM (0

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Got a nice Android tablet for xmas, first thing i did was tape over the inside camera.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 December 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

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(list is from www.attrition.org - but "sardine" really? are they known for their terrorist tendencies?)

StanM, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 10:27 (ten years ago) link

( http://attrition.org/misc/keywords.html is the link )

StanM, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link

This is probably a huge coincidence but that tablet died last night and now it won't come back on.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

Completely serious.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

D'oh. Nevermind it works again.

But still.....makes you think.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

OPINION | EDITORIAL
Edward Snowden, Whistle-Blower
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
Considering the value of his leaks and the N.S.A. abuses he has exposed, Mr. Snowden should be offered clemency or a plea bargain.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

nyt otm

creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

Good on the NYT.

Digby linked to this excellent speech given by Barton Gellman on responsible journalism in the age of terror.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/01/priorities.html

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Well, this is just precious:

That violent hostility lies just beneath the surface of the domestic debate over NSA spying is still ongoing. Some members of Congress have hailed Snowden as a whistle-blower, the New York Times has called for clemency, and pundits regularly defend his actions on Sunday talk shows. In intelligence community circles, Snowden is considered a nothing short of a traitor in wartime.

“His name is cursed every day over here,” a defense contractor told BuzzFeed, speaking from an overseas intelligence collections base. “Most everyone I talk to says he needs to be tried and hung, forget the trial and just hang him.”

One Army intelligence officer even offered BuzzFeed a chillingly detailed fantasy.

“I think if we had the chance, we would end it very quickly,” he said. “Just casually walking on the streets of Moscow, coming back from buying his groceries. Going back to his flat and he is casually poked by a passerby. He thinks nothing of it at the time starts to feel a little woozy and thinks it’s a parasite from the local water. He goes home very innocently and next thing you know he dies in the shower.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/americas-spies-want-edward-snowden-dead

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

no news there rlly

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link

“I would love to put a bullet in his head,” one Pentagon official, a former special forces officer, said bluntly. “I do not take pleasure in taking another human beings life, having to do it in uniform, but he is single-handedly the greatest traitor in American history.”

guess the civil war never happened, huh?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 17 January 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

Charles Pierce:

Balls. COINTELPRO. CISPES. The McCarran Act. The Plumbers. Mossadegh. Arbenz. The "U.S. intelligence agencies" were anchored in nothing but their own arrogance. The president should be ashamed to base his arguments in such plainly ahistorical balderdash.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/obama-nsa-speech-011714

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

no news there rlly

It is a helpful story because it makes very explicit the degree to which our intelligence agencies imagine themselves to be sovereign states, answerable to no law but their own interests. They throw a thin disguise over this attitude by speaking as if their own interests were always absolutely identical to US interests, when in reality they are the tail that thinks it ought to wag the dog.

Aimless, Friday, 17 January 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

the fuck is up with that guy

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

Willentz sounds Deeply Saddened that these two men don't believe in Democratic states.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Snowden, it seems, mostly engaged in postadolescent banter about sex and Internet gaming—and occasionally mused about firearms. “I have a Walther P22,” he wrote. “It’s my only gun, but I love it to death.” The Walther P22, a fairly standard handgun, is not especially fearsome, but Snowden’s affection for it hinted at some of his developing affinities.

when gun nuts throw shade

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link

A response:

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link

That New Republic article is just crazy. I don't give two flips what sort of ideological mess of pottage Snowden or Assange might carry around in their brains or what self-contradictory views they may hold about various leftist sacred cows. Exposing government corruption and overreach are non-ideological good deeds, unconnected to whatever beliefs motivated them.

Aimless, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link

yeah i would love to read a good greenwald takedown but man that thing is nowhere near it.

balls, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link

wilentz is pretty useless when he's not writing about 19th century history.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link

I saw Obama on Jay Leno and Obama noted in response to Leno mentioning how Daniel Ellsberg didn't flee, that yes we have whistleblower protection here in the US. Of course there was no discussion of how Obama's Justice Department has gone after whistleblowers more than any administration in history, and how Ellsberg supports what Snowden has done.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link

Wow. Must admit I have not been following the recent Ukraine govt vs protestors events

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

amazing

just (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

not amazing actually, just yikes

just (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

yurp

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

At risk of dog piling even more info into this thread, the sessions from from the recent Chaos Communication Congress are of exceedingly high quality:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CCCen

If you only watch one, watch Paglen's "Seeing The Secret State" presentation. HFS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j56s46e97Lo

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 January 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

I spent a fruitless half day getting the friend of a certain Rolling Stone writer to recant her addled definition of "traitor" as it applied to Snowden.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link

One more thing to read that I haven't read yet http://www.salon.com/2014/01/23/glenn_greenwalds_heroism_standing_up_to_our_new_orwellian_police_state/

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

got into it on twitter with cathy fitzpatrick today as she insisted that snowden, greenwald, the EFF, and anyone who wants useful encryption are secret anarchists plotting "anarchy, where anarchists are in charge"

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

that was fun

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

Uh, who is she?

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

kinda thinking someone who thinks anarchy is 'where anarchists are in charge' is prob terminally confused about what words mean in general

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

Uh, who is she?

― curmudgeon, Friday, January 24, 2014 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

historian/"human rights activist"/weirdo loved on the right for her writing about the USSR's large body count, with apparently a sideline in the technical details of encryption.

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

lol, looked her up and immediately found a horrified tweet from her about how 'there really is a magazine called JACOBIN!'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link


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