I liked some stuff on the wire list okay, a lot I haven't heard though.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
Reading about Tim Hecker's process for making that album, 'tossed off' is probably about as far away from the reality as you could get.
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
Where's that whiney piece?
Nick - I subscribed to the Wire for the first time this year. Think my threshold for the kind of music they cover was really affected by Scott Walker, Laurel Halo, Neneh Cherry and Engine Kang releases from last year, but I've always liked 'new' music to an extent yet previously found Wire ' s coverage just a bit too obscure until now. So I don't know, is it a bit of both? I def have more time for' conceptual' music than I did before. It's also the Year I got into jazz.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
here you go: http://www.spin.com/articles/tim-hecker-virgins-attack-of-the-drones-interview/
gotta catch a bus or otherwise i'd excerpt some bits but it's worth a read xp
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
Re: Hecker, I mean that's it, I always hear about how much effort he puts into his compositions but they always sound so cackhanded, like he just fed a bunch of notes through a distortion pedal and pressed record.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
LOL @ "Engine Kang"
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
autocorrect, I know :)
one of the things about the Tim Hecker that I really loved was the layering of all those sounds, some of it's exquisitely detailed imo. sure it's sometimes surrounded by fog but it's all in there!
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
seen quite a few people saying they were surprised (and perhaps a little disappointed) to see so many things they were already familiar in the wire list. is this cos the wire are getting less militantly avant or cos we're all better informed or what?
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:53 PM (24 minutes ago)
Bit of both I think, though my claim that the Wire got noticeably more populist over the last several years is somewhat shot down by some of the covers from just before I started reading it. I think I started during a 'militantly avant' phase, though. We covered this in a different thread somewhere.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
Engine Kang sounds like a vintage Japanese video game.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
There's no way on earth that Glasser album is the best of the year.
― Position Position, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
With both this year's Quietus and Wire lists I felt not nearly as... alienated+frustrated by year-end round-ups as I typically am
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
(still alienated and frustrated tho that goes w/out saying, just that "wow that's a lot of records I actually love")
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
The Quietus and to a lesser extent The Wire do the only year-end round-ups that are worth shit-all
― veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Everyone else just circulates the same tedious highprofile bullshit (even if some of it isn't bullshit, the lists are invariably lazy & arbitrary)
― veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
Well my mind doesn't grade music numerically so lists are a waste of time and space as a rule, filed away next to games of "Babe or Minger", but it is nice to see "oh cool we listen to a lot of the same records"
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
well exactly
― veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
but I do feel that a lot of year-end round-ups are quite interchangeable in their breadth of listening, and while it's nice for people who've largely heard those albums to be validated over & over again, it's a little frustrating that there's so much amazing stuff out there getting next to no exposure
― veneer timber (imago), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
some of it's exquisitely detailed
This poncey nonsense is a consequence of me writing while i was rushing out the door but what i meant is i love the stratified depths of sound and the sometimes dizzying effects he creates from these. I won't lie though, mostly I love Tim Hecker cos it's gorgeous but powerful music to sit around feeling morose to, so maybe it's a temperament thing?
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
I know it's basically a christmas catalogue for tarts but I do love the end of year lists that Boomkat do, discovered so much good stuff through those.
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
so glad to see alasdair roberts on the wire list!!
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
a timely reminder that i need to listen to that one. how does in rank in the roberts oeuvre?
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.party-ideas-by-a-pro.com/image-files/alice-in-wonderland-party-jam-tarts.jpg
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
it's among the more flowery of his albums (compared to the solo/straight ahead ballad stuff) -- lots of guests, different instruments and arrangements on every song -- but there are lots of really good songs and an incest ballad that really takes the cake. it is one of those albums that creates and lives in its own little universe. this will probably make sense to anyone who likes him and not much sense to everyone else.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
made sense to me apart from the incest cake thing
― test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
but i love it!!
this is brother seed, the aforementioned balladhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVme8xe7NNo
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
i meant that it was really good! it takes the cake!
always get that confused with taking the biscuit tbh
― test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
what has this to do with the tart catalogue
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
there's a hierarchy of baked comestibles i suppose. cakes at one end, biscuits at the other. i think this is wrong, but this is how it seems. jam tarts somewhere in the middle.
― test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
still think night is advancing is best ali roberts
― =(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
i do like the chord progression on that song LL, nice overall sound too!
― test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
I liked the Alasdair Roberts, but I think Spoils is the best thing he's ever done. That album was just about perfect
― Dan S, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
The Wire Rewind 2013: Avant RockMarisa Anderson - MercuryBastard Noise / Brutal Truth - The Axiom Of Post InhumanityRichard Dawson - The Glass TrunkEx-Easter Island Head - Mallet Guitars ThreeMike Gangloff - Poplar HollowGrumbling Fur - GlynnaestraSteve Gunn - Time OffMaster Musicians Of Bukkake - Far WestPaul Metzger - TombeauxMidday Veil - The CurrentMonarch - OmensMountains - Centralia StudioCian Nugent And The Cosmos - Born With The CaulPolvo - SiberiaAlasdair Roberts And Friends - A Wonder Working Stone
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Finally some Polvo!
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
i wish drag city stuff were easier to hear but this is the way they want it, so w/ethere is a goofy song that uses the "red river valley" melody too, the whole album is unpredictable and never boring. people like different things from him -- i'm pretty much happy to listen to whatever he puts out (although i didn't love that one album with the irish lady...forget what it's called)
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
The Wire Rewind 2013: Critical Beats01. Joey Anderson - From One Mind To The Other02. Julio Bashmore versus Kowton - Mirror Song03. Beneath - Beliz/Strike A Pose04. Coki - Bedouins05. DJ Rashad - I Don't Give A Fuck06. Joe - Punters Step Out/Club Sacred07. Kromestar - Rhythm On My Mind08. letthemusicplay featuring Kate Tempest - Out Town09. Glacher Lustwerk - Tape2210. DJ Nigga Fox - O Meu Estilo11. Pangaea - Viaduct12. Theo Parrish - Day Like This13. Pev & Asusu - Surge/Remnants14. Special Request - Mindwash15. Tessala - Nancy's Pantry
The Wire Rewind 2013: Electronica01. Autechre - Exai02. Autre Ne Veut - Anxiety03. AyGeeTee - Fools04. Bass Clef - Acid Tracts05. Rashad Becker - Traditional Music Of Notional Species Vol 106. Blondes - Swisher07. Anthony Child - The Space Between People And Things08. Donaty Dozzy - Plays Bee Mask09. Mark Fell - N-Dimensional Analysis10. FKA Twigs - EP211. Laurel Halo - Chance Of Rain12. Huerco S - Colonial Patterns13. Jam City - Special Trash Offcuts Memories14. Oneothrix Point Never - R Plus Seven15. Yearning Kru - Cracked Lacquer/Vanadium
The Wire Rewind 2013: Hip-Hop01. Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap02. Chief Keef - Go to Jail03. Drake - Nothing Was the Same04. Future - SH!T05. Kevin Gates - Stranger Than Fiction06. Ka - The Night's Gambit07. Migos - Young Rich Niggas08. Quelle Chris - Ghost at the Finish Line09. Rocko feat. Future & Rick Ross - UOENO10. Starlito - Funerals & Court Dates11. Earl Sweatshirt - Doris12. Underachievers - Indigoism13. Kanye West - Yeezus14. YG - Just Re'd Up 215. Young Thug - 1017 Thug
The Wire Rewind 2013: Jazz & Improv01. Sophie Agnel / John Edwards / Steve Noble - Meteo02. John Butcher / Thomas Lehn / John Tilbury - Exta03. The Convergence Quartet - Slow And Steady04. Decoy & Joe McPhee - Spontaneous Combustion05. Klaus Filip / Toshimaru Nakamura / Andrea Neumann / Ivan Placký - Messier Objects06. Huntsville - Past Increasing Future Receding07. Sarah Hughes - Accidents Of Matter And Space08. ist - Berlin09. Graham Lambkin & Keith Rowe - Making A10. Sebastian Lexer & Grundik Kasyansky - The Fog11. Rob Mazurek Exploding Star Orchestra featuring Roscoe Mitchell - Matter Anti-Matter12. The Remote Viewers - Crimeways13. Matthieu Ruhlmann - This Star Teaches Bending14. Seaven Teares - Power Ballads15. Nate Wooley & Seymour Wright - About Trumpet And Saxophone
The Wire Rewind 2013: Modern Composition01. Elizabeth Brown - Mirage02. John Cage - The Works For Organ03. Shih-Hui Chen - Returning Sounds04. Anders Dahl & Skogen - Rows05. Hywel Davies - Descent/End Canon/Cold In The Earth06. Luc Ferrari/Brunhild Ferrari - Luc Ferrari/Brunhild Ferrari07. Michael Finnissy - History Of Photography In Sound08. Lars Petter Hagen - Orchestral Works09. Bryn Harrison - Vessels10. Klaus Lang - Organ Works Vol 111. R Murray Schafer - String Quartets 8–1212. Johannes Schöllhorn - Clouds And Sky13. Ernstalbrecht Stiebler - Ton In Ton14. Yoshi Wada - Singing In Unison15. Zwerm - Underwater Princess Waltz
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
The Ex-Easter Island Head album is nice, coming from somewhere between gamelan and Rhys Chatham.
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
Never mind the numbers in front of the Wire lists: I see now that they are ordered alphabetically.
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
alphabetizing inconsistencies in the crit beats list though tbh
― test listicles (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
Maybe 'Glacher' is Herr Lustwerk's first name? :)
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
its funny how out of place noz' lists look in wire
― flopson, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
I got my Pazz/Jop ballot earlier today.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Ex-Easter Island Head mallet guitars stuff at its best is some kind of headrush dance ecstasy. Based on minimalist composition.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
cannot fucking believe that the amazing album by The Ex & Brass Unbound is only in this thread as Quietus' #99 pick
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
The Wire Rewind 2013: Outer LimitsRobert Beatty - Sountracks For Takeshi MurataAnthony Child - The Space Between People And ThingsG*Park - SubRussell Haswekk & Yasunao Tone - Convulsive ThresholdRene Hell - Vanilla Call OptionPeter Kolovos - Black ColorsMain - AblationJar Moff - Financial GlamElse Marie Pade & Jacob Kirkegaard - SvaevningerJoe Panzner & Greg Stuart - Dystonia DuosMichael Pisaro - Closed Categories In Cartesian WorldsToshiya Tsunoda - The Temple RecordingRobert Turman - Beyond PaintingJennifer Veillerobe - LuftlöcherBilly Roisz - Walking The Monkey
The Wire Rewind 2013: GlobalAbduvali Abdurashidov - Tajikistan Classical Music And SongsLili Boniche - AnthologieLena Hughes - Queen Of The Flat Top GuitarKakujo Iwasa - Kakuryu Saito - Japan: Satsuma BiwaOrchestra Super Mazembe - Mazembe @ 45 rpm Vol 1V/A - Cameroon: Flutes Of The Mandara MountainsV/A - Classical Celtic MusicV/A - Ethnic Minority Music Of Southern ChinaV/A - 100 Moons: Hindustani Vocal Art 1930-1955V/A - Stand Up People: Gypsy Pop Songs From Tito's Yugoslavia 1964-1980
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
aw man i didn't know there was a new pisaro
― j., Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
yes, jon abbey had great things to say about it on IHM
― Dan S, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
A high proportion of releases passed the sonic Bechdel test this year (women writing their own material, talking about something other than a man).
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link