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WHAT HAPPENED TO ENGLAND SHAKING

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

haa

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

haha, that is a cute picture.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Let England Curtsey

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Let One of England's Monarchs Pin Something On My Blazer

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

5'4" Queenie.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

goddamn right!

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

"I wouldn't do this for Mick Jagger, you know?"

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Never really found her cute, before this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahLfsTQ18_o

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

God I was there, first time I've seen footage
(One and only acid trip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8mqk9pIaHo

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link

cool story bro

maura, Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

way to reduce one of rock's most interesting artists of the past three decades to her effect on your boner. well done. thanks a lot.

maura, Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link

i just hope that he can eventually find a way to find the cuteness in other musicians too, before it's too late

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link

Wow, all that just because he/she mentions PJ Harvey looks cute in yellow?

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

- revive a thread after nine months
- never mention her music or anything but attractiveness
- ah now she is worth discussing because i finally found her cute

so, yes

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link

That's assuming her cuteness was the entire point of sharing. Could have just as well been a side note. Second video had no mention of cuteness.

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link

Ship's computer: lock brain, please.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link

evan it's nice that you want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but maybe giving the artist the benefit of thinking that she, you know, exists outside of what men think of her would be helpful too

maura, Thursday, 18 September 2014 04:50 (nine years ago) link

i don't understand why 'don't be a sexist jerk' is such a hard thing for men to comprehend

maura, Thursday, 18 September 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link

Maybe we can talk about this (the music, that is), probably my favourite PJH youtube clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCruBKDt5Ys

This cuts to the bone and gives me chills every time I watch it. I love the crowd response in the last fifteen seconds of the song, they know they've seen something epic.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 18 September 2014 08:23 (nine years ago) link

oh god enablers like evan are as bad as sexists like outdoorfish, what is wrong with you

lex pretend, Thursday, 18 September 2014 08:29 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, obviously I hate the music. I am also a fan of simpletons.

OutdoorFish, Thursday, 18 September 2014 08:30 (nine years ago) link

Enabler, facilitator or apologist?

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:09 (nine years ago) link

enablers like me are just as bad as sexists, who we are totally 100% positive are sexists based on half sentences. how about let's not be horribly negative people and at least try to get a little tiny bit more information before we call everyone a fucking full blown sexist AND say that everyone who says "whoa, hold on a second" just as bad??

I get it, you really WANT to believe outdoorfish isn't a fan at all, but now he stumbles upon a clip of pj harvey in a yellow dress and checks his dick to see whether he should give her a chance.

maybe, this is crazy because I know his blood test came back sexist, but maybe he is just a fan of her music already and wanted to share a clip and add "she's particularly cute in this clip" and just chose poor wording. Is that possible? because it's worth getting a little more info before you call someone a sexist over admitting they hadn't found someone cute before. Plus, the next clip wasn't all "check out her titties in this one" it was "I was at this show!" I'm pretty sure that's enough to assume the entire reason for sharing was most likely not to talk about how attractive she is and how much more important that is than her great music

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link

maybe he is just a fan of her music already and wanted to share a clip and add "she's particularly cute in this clip" and just chose poor wording

Uh...your putative alternate isn't much better?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

You can't mention you find someone cute in any way?

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link

No, we live in a world of unbridled hypocrisy.

OutdoorFish, Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:54 (nine years ago) link

You can't mention you find someone cute in any way?

― Evan,

- revive a thread after nine months
- never mention her music or anything but attractiveness
- ah now she is worth discussing because i finally found her cute

so, yes

― mookieproof,

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link

No, we live in a world of unbridled hypocrisy and sheep-like behaviour.

OutdoorFish, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:14 (nine years ago) link

- never mention her music or anything but attractiveness
- ah now she is worth discussing because i finally found her cute

Are we sure these two are exactly the case?

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:16 (nine years ago) link

Such bold truths being told.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link

Exhibit A:
Kessler is hot and probably doesn't have the clap so there's that!

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link

Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt, that's all. I don't like to assume the worst in people without a certain amount of information.

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link

behind everyone doing something sexist or racist or homophobic will always be some clichéd idiot saying "WAIT DON'T JUDGE THEM"

lex pretend, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link

PJ's general appearance/demeanor isn't "cute". I'd describe her stage presence as compelling, commanding, mysterious. At least every time I've seen her. In this video, she looks cute. She's having fun, smiling. Like a young Linda Ronstadt almost.

God, I want that Firebird.

how's life, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link

behind everyone doing something sexist or racist or homophobic will always be some clichéd idiot saying "WAIT DON'T JUDGE THEM"

― lex pretend, Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:32 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm an idiot? You're right, I should judge people when I have sufficient information. Let me try. You're an asshole.

Fun!

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:53 (nine years ago) link

Behind every witch-hunt there's always some cliched idiot who rushed to condemn without sufficient evidence

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

Who is that Macklemore-looking dude playing bass and what's with that gold knob on the horn?

how's life, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

now that's a lead.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

good fucking god, saying "judging a woman on whether she gives you a boner or not" is sexist does not amount to a bloody witch hunt, get over yourselves

lex pretend, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

Who is that Macklemore-looking dude playing bass

Simon 'Dingo' Archer; AFAIK she borrowed him from The Fall for the 2004 tour.

mthrn, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link

Cool! Thanks.

how's life, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

I miss her power trio.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

Me too. I was at this show, right up in front; when this song kicked in, the crowd surged forward, and those of us up against the stage obviously had nowhere to go. I had bruises on my stomach for weeks afterward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cEw8nMfzI8

It was a good show, but at the time the band members seemed remote from one another. I later read that they'd decided to break up earlier in the tour, but stayed together to finish out the dates.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

Bruises?! That's nuts!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it was pretty scary, actually. After this song, a bunch of us in the front retreated to the back of the crowd and exchanged "Are you OK?"s. Lots of crowd-surfing at this show, too, which was really annoying.

Almost forgot to mention, Scrawl was one of the openers! They killed, but the crowd wasn't that into them for some reason.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

Man, Scrawl ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

this thread is a fine example of What It Feels Like For A Woman Who Talks About Music Online, so thanks for that dudes

maura, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

All I wanted to do was have you consider that outdoorfish was perhaps not evaluating PJ Harvey entirely on her looks based on that comment alone. I wasn't defending the general act of evaluating someone entirely on their looks, or based on what men think, or whatever else.

Evan, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

Jfc

kinder, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link


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