Year-End Critics' Polls 2013

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despite me effing with Robert Hood in general the Floorplan album disappeared into a void of technoish CD promos. I've fished it out bc of the enthusiasm upthread. IT'S ON (literally)

screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

Erik Rohman isunkes • 2 hours ago −
Agreed. Any list omiting these two projects raises some doubt in my mind as to any common tastes with the writer of the article. Everyone has an opinion for sure, but for someone to sell this as an eclectic list and leave off both Reflector and Trouble Will Find Me is a bit confusing.

flopson, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

loooooooooooooooooooooooool

i mean, come on

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

oh I just got that, smh

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

"How can you claim to be "eclectic" and ignore these boring-ass white people bands?"

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

even the prose is a set of terrible Berninger lyrics.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

I can't get a read on Pitchfork's indie debt to its readership anymore, but I hope neither of those albums land in their to 20.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Arcade Fire will be top ten for sure (I mean, it got 9.2 come on), the other one I have no idea.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

Pro tip for metal bands: If you want critical love, clean vocals, melodies, and memorable choruses are right fucking out.

you guys sound like a cross between johnny fever & geir (no offence to jf intended)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

lol, when I get paired with Geir there is offense, intended or not.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

the trilogy (Daft Punk, National, Arcade Fire) will be in PFM's top fifteen.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

I just meant you do state that kinda thing about metal a lot and its why you went off it years ago

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

Kinda why im doing a rock/metal tracks poll for the 1st time. To prove it does still encompass that and it doesnt have to be just the Revolver type um 'mainstream' metal that does it.

Clean vox and singing have come back into the underground the past few years and got critical love. Uncle Acid/Ghost/In Solitude/Cauldron/The Devils Blood/Blood Ceremony and so on. Even Electric Wizard and Moss do it now! (and are still sounding great)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

if anyones interested here's a playlist http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/5h0uxOzYvaafpBbe6Sve2J

Plenty there non-metal fans would like I think.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

give it a go jf and do let us know what you think (on the poll thread so not to annoy people here)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

Texan-British Brooklyn transplant Devonté Hynes hasn't made the richest sounding R&B album of the year working under his new moniker Blood Orange — that accolade might go to the multi-million dollar, sonically-intimidating Random Access Memories by Daft Punk.

i am curious #yolo (wins), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

hahaha what

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

Clean vox and singing have come back into the underground the past few years and got critical love.

My own list has quite a bit of that, fwiw (culled from albums actually streamable on Rhapsody; I just posted a list on the metal thread of non-Rhapsodyable albums that would've also been in the running):

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/post/top-25-metal-of-2013

xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

xp you heard it here first!

i am curious #yolo (wins), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

hey chuck please nominate that stuff on the eoy metal poll!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

and um what? re daft punk

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

Stupid end of year accolade comments make me want to cry, but I would prefer if it was over the dead bodies of all these idiots.

Tim F, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

Texan-British Brooklyn transplant Devonté Hynes hasn't made the richest sounding R&B album of the year working under his new moniker Blood Orange

if the sentence had ended there it would've been ok

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

metal and emo people who refer to singing-not-screaming as "clean vocals" are the funniest thing in the world to me. there are some screamo bands that put "unclean vocals" in the liner notes.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

the ka album is extremely admirable, extremely well-crafted and smart etc, i think if you were into that kind of rap you'd adore it but it's mostly "admire" for me, and i can see why some would get bored

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

That a former member of Test Icicles is almost inevitably going to end up on one genuine A-List pop star's next album, despite being manifestly untalented, is one of the more unbelievable musical trajectories I've ever seen.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link

Man I'm not a big fan at all of Dev Hynes, but I feel like "manifestly untalented" is a little bit incorrect.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, he has a "thing" he does and it's an identifiable thing and some people like it and some people (very much) don't like it, but that doesn't mean he's manifestly untalented.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

metal and emo people who refer to singing-not-screaming as "clean vocals" are the funniest thing in the world to me. there are some screamo bands that put "unclean vocals" in the liner notes.

― some dude,

havent seen any of the latter re 'unclean vocals'(mainly as i dont listen to metalcore) but I do not remember when this 'clean vocals' thing started to get used. Is it a recent as in past 10 years thing? I dont remember it being used in the 90s.

Considering half of the bands who do 'clean vox' to sell more records CANNOT ACTUALLY SING maybe its a better term than just 'singing'

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

lex so good on floorplan upthread -

the music's like a suit and you have to move in certain ways to put it on

this is one of the most pleasingly accurate & memorable descriptions of dancing i can recall

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link

xp I think Hynes' songwriting is lazy verging on inert - everything's on one level - but he has a distinctive production style and he's rebooted the careers of two singers who were stuck in major-label limbo so that's talent of sorts.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

his production style is basically romanticisation of inertia and torpor as well, barf

whose careers has he rebooted? mutya keisha siobhan didn't exactly do well out of him, solange was less commercially successful than before and has now split with him (YAY maybe she can be great again), sky ferreira admittedly finally broke through with his song but her album abandons both him and his style completely...?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

and when i say sky ferreira broke through obv none of that involved selling records

lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Dude, Revolver has A Pale Horse Named Death, ASG, Black Sabbath, Volbeat, and STONE SOUR

Not too shabby. Decibel's list has surprising range this year too.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

havent seen any of the latter re 'unclean vocals'(mainly as i dont listen to metalcore) but I do not remember when this 'clean vocals' thing started to get used. Is it a recent as in past 10 years thing? I dont remember it being used in the 90s.

Considering half of the bands who do 'clean vox' to sell more records CANNOT ACTUALLY SING maybe its a better term than just 'singing'

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly i'm not sure -- i feel like i've seen it more and more online the last few years, but i should be able to remember anecdotally if i've heard it (i played drums in a band circa 1999 with guys who were super into screamo and the frontman alternated singing and screaming) but i really don't remember if that terminology was thrown around back then.

some dude, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

A Pale Horse Named Death

you would never know dude was in type o negative
lol

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

i do remember that the sellout paranoia was so strong with guys like that that anything too overtly melodic was often described as "poppy" in a mildly disgusted tone. also reminds me of the Brian Posehn metal parody, "THIS IS THE GAY PART WITH MELODY!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zySOKr9wqMw

xp

some dude, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link

A lot of kids definitely demand faster louder more extreme just like the thrash kids before them but the small rise in popularity of doom was sortve against that then everyone started trying to sound like Khanate for a few years but more trad/psych/stoner stuff has got popular again notto mention the whole shoegaze black/postmetal thing. Alcest are not even remotely metal now.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

he's rebooted the careers of two singers

i think his work w/ solange and sky ferreira did far more for his own career than it did for theirs (saying this as a huge fan of "everything is embarrassing" who is well aware that that song opened up a whole new (skeptical) audience to her)

dyl, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link

i dunno solange got her own label at sony off that EP

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

i mean solange co-wrote and co-produced the entire thing (and is a dynamic live performer imo) so let's not give dev too much credit but that EP did finally solidify her image as indie rock's beyonce, which has been a boon to her career from what i can tell

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link

33. Maurice Deebank – Inner Thought Zone (1972 Records)

^ this from the FACT list is sounding really cool.. instrumental guitar, sort of durutti column-ish or ducktails-ish.

☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

FACT reissue list, i mean.

☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Surprised there has been no mention of Wildewoman on ILM while she already ranked on two major (perhaps not?) EOY lists, Paste and NPR.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link

Ah yes, there is some stuff in the Rolling Indie 2013.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

Here is that PopMatters Albums list:

75. Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin
74. The Uncluded - Hokey Fight
73. Chelsea Wolfe - Pain is Beauty
72. Boards of Canada - Tomorrow's Harvest
71. Josh Ritter - The Beast in Its Tracks
70. The Flaming Lips - The Terror
69. Jagwar Ma - Howlin'
68. John Grant - Pale Green Ghosts
67. Washed Out - Paracosm
66. Superchunk - I Hate Music
65. The Icarus Line - Slave Vows
64. Studio Killers - Studio Killers
63. Lorde - Pure Heroine
62. The Haxan Cloak - Excavation
61. Justin Timberlake - The 20/20 Experience (Part 1)
60. Icona Pop - This Is . . . Icona Pop
59. In Solitude - Sister
58. Paramore - Paramore
57. Suede - Bloodsports
56. Popstrangers - Antipodes
55. London Grammar - If You Wait
54. Russian Circles - Memorial
53. Baths - Obsidian
52. Caitlin Rose - The Stand-In
51. Mount Moriah - Miracle Temple
50. SubRosa - More Constant Than the Gods
49. Los Campesinos! - No Blues
48. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP2
47. David Bowie - The Next Day
46. King Krule - 6 Feet Beneath the Moon
45. Speedy Ortis - Major Arcana
44. James Blake - Overgrown
43. Run the Jewels (Killer Mike and El-P) - Run the Jewels
42. Julia Holter - Loud City Song
41. Alice Smith - She
40. Waxahatchee - Cerulean Salt
39. Deafheaven - Sunbather
38. Rhye - Woman
37. Jon Hopkins - Immunity
36. Mikal Cronin - MCII
35. The Head and the Heart - Let's Be Still
34. Pusha T - My Name is My Name
33. The Lone Bellow - The Lone Bellow
32. Laura Marling - Once I Was An Eagle
31. Eleanor Friedberger - Personal Record
30. The Devil Makes Three - I'm a Stranger Here
29. OMD - English Electric
28. Arctic Monkeys - AM
27. Queens of the Stone Age - Like Clockwork
26. Ashley Monroe - Like a Rose
25. Palma Violets - 180
24. Tegan and Sara - Heartthrob
23. Bastille - Bad Blood
22. Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap
21. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Push the Sky Away
20. Okkervil River - The Silver Gymnasium
19. Arcade Fire - Reflektor
18. Phosphorescent - Muchacho
17. Autre Ne Veut - Anxiety
16. Savages - Silence Yourself
15. John Wizards - John Wizards
14. Tim Hecker - Virgins
13. Kacey Musgraves - Same Trailer, Different Park
12. The National - Trouble Will Find Me
11. Janelle Monae - The Electric Lady
10. My Bloody Valentine - MBV
9. Haim - Days Are Gone
8. Chvrches - The Bones of What You Believe
7. Daft Punk - Random Access Memories
6. Kanye West - Yeezus
5. Jason Isbell - Southeastern
4. Disclosure - Settle
3. The Knife - Shaking the Habitual
2. Neko Case - The Worse Thing Get, The Harder I Fight, The Harder I Fight, The More I Love You
1. Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City

Bee OK, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link

33. Maurice Deebank – Inner Thought Zone (1972 Records)

^ this from the FACT list is sounding really cool.. instrumental guitar, sort of durutti column-ish or ducktails-ish.

"Dance Of Deliverance" appeared on the Felt greatest hits comp "Absolute Classic Masterpieces", it's a great track, good album!

fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 06:54 (ten years ago) link

I usually roll my eyes at The Quietus but that Grumbling Fur album they voted at #1 is really good. Kinda like if Delia & Gavin made a psychedelic rock album.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:58 AM (Yesterday)

Whoa, would not have taken the time if not for that description, Matt; cheers.

etc, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link

xp Yeah, I don't want to take anything away from Solange there. It's more down to her than Hynes but he facilitated her repositioning. Seems obtsue to deny that Losing You and Everything Is Embarrassing helped those singers find a new audience and confidence after years of label bullshit. Personally I've heard enough from him but that's not the point.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:07 (ten years ago) link

solange was already positioned as Indie Knowles well before her work with hynes (like, to the extent that it's been her nickname on pop messageboards for years). that was the entire narrative around her previous album (regardless of it not being that accurate w/r/t the music) and since then she'd been cultivating her indie-friendliness assiduously. their brands aligned rather than he did anything to redefine hers.

"everything is embarrassing" was the first sky ferreira song that clicked with anyone but it wasn't exactly a big hit, and now just seems like a superior example of the years of pissing-around-on-a-major-label-budget she did before actually finding her voice/confidence with the new album.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link


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