it is interesting how myopic these people are, like they act like they're the only person in the universe capable of critical thought or discernment.
xpost to DL
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
xpost to DL, shame cos it's a great album.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
it surprises me a little how narrow-minded Guardian music readers are, considering the paper's supposed progressive stance and the general remit of its editorial.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
Liberals tend to as bad if not worse than conservatives about this sort of thing, i.e. "Why do you listen to such corporate crap, man? It's bought and sold to you and you accept it!"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
In my experience, I progressive world view doesn't extend to a broad appreciation of music genres.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
*I=A
i guess there is that.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
Also, Alfred otm
it's just that most of the time only bored and/or angry people with an axe to grind bother to get involve. same in most places online.
xposts
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
of course it's not like that here
tbh this is a stance that's been drummed into the public by decades of rockist music journalism. we're not that many years removed from those attitudes coming from the critics themselves
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
xposts but also it's like, FFS grow up and realise that everything's bought and sold to you.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
it's a relief to be different from them
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
Finally giving the Fantasia album a spin at present, and it's wholly satisfying!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
AV Club
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
If I was A Bird off that Fantasia album is one of my fave tracks this year.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
tbh this is a stance that's been drummed into the public by decades of rockist music journalism
It's a perennial attitude, it precedes rock journalism AND rock music. Precedes jazz even.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
left liberalism is riddled with concerns about authenticity tbh
― Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
false consciousness etc
I have been playing "Without Me" incessantly
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
fantasia album is good but i like k. michelle's more
― mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
has anyone heard the john legend album? i think one of his singles is going to be #1 in australia this week.
I love them both and would give them big hugs if those albums were real people
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
fantasia more likely to hug you back, k michelle more likely to punch you in the face
(which is why both are great)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think it just gathers a bunch of bad-tempered torch wavers and rap-more-like-crap dullards in one place by virtue of being one of the more visible, swiftly turned over outlets for music writing that also has a comment box. rarely get the impression that ppl posting under music articles are esp invested in the 'image' of the Guardian, in the same way that commenters on say food articles might be
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
I feel like people regard Fantasia as something of a joke when she's (IMO) one of the best singers to appear on the scene in the past decade.
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
but also yeah if Guardian readers had been able to comment at will in the 1950s it would probably be full of junior Ewan McColls decrying the idea of singing over instruments
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
I feel like people regard Fantasia as something of a joke
It's possible that's true. To me, she'll always be that last really interesting winner of American Idol (no offense Carrie Underwood).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna play the Fantasia album brb
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
all the offense in the world to Carrie Underwood, tbh
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
disclosure's US PR must be incredibly strong
lex, can you elaborate? Do you think "White Noise" (which is mostly what I'm seeing on these lists) is that unworthy, or is it more a matter of the mainstream U.S. music press not normally including things along the lines of Disclosure in year end lists?
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
"white noise" is a great song, the US music press usually doesn't really care about UK dance though, the idea that disclosure are being used to represent UK dance is lol for many reasons
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
why have guardian writers failed to convince their readership - or commentship - of the uselessness of the rockist position?
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
why bother?
― Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
the idea that disclosure are being used to represent UK dance is lol for many reasons
Since I have fallen in love with UK dance this year (at least for now), I agree that there's plenty more going on that's equally good or better. (I don't know too much about how Disclosure fits in with the larger scenes involved.)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
Magnet Magazine - Best Of 2013: Indie Rootshttp://www.magnetmagazine.com/2013/12/05/best-of-2013-indie-roots/
MAGNET’s Devon Leger picks the best indie-roots releases of the year.
1 Sam Amidon - Bright Sunny South (Nonesuch)2 Anais Mitchell & Jefferson Hamer - Child Ballads (Wilderland)3 Luke Winslow-King - The Coming Tide (Bloodshot)4 Various Artists - Inside Llewyn Davis (Nonesuch)5 Valerie June - Pushin’ Against A Stone (Concord)6 Blind Boys Of Alabama - I’ll Find A Way (Sony Masterworks)7 Wes Tirey - I Stood Among Trees (self-released)8 Blackbird Raum - False Weavers (Silver Sprocket)9 Vikesh Kapoor - The Ballad Of Willy Robbins (Mama Bird)10 Square Peg Rounders - Galax, NYC (self-released)
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
wtf is indie roots?
faux-Americana with a sheen of crusty punk? at least in the case of Blackbird Raum, who I have sen live and liked OK
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
It's "folk," but with a marketable name.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
haha yes
elite folk
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:15 PM (4 minutes ago)
^^^
Though may I add - HOLY JESUS WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS?
― emil.y, Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
best hand-crafted artisanal mp3s
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Sam Amidon is married to Beth Orton, I believe. They must be indie-roots royalty.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
They're Johnny Cash and June Carter to Marcus Mumford's Woody Guthrie
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
the blind boys of alabama/bon iver record should have been the whole list
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 5 December 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
Yes. Although I am curious about this one song on that Coen Brothers Inside Llewyn Davis movie soundtrack
Please Mr. Kennedy – Justin Timberlake, Oscar Isaac, Adam Driver (Ed Rush, George Cromarty, T Bone Burnett, Justin Timberlake, Joel Coen, Ethan Coen)
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 December 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
inside llewyn davis soundtrack is gonna be all indie roots crap. saw a trailer last week and it was just dreadful
― flopson, Thursday, 5 December 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
I like Sam Amidon, but Bright Sunny South seemed kind of slight compared to his previous two releases. The good Tim McGraw cover at least makes up for the half-assed, ponderous Mariah Carey cover.
― Noblesse J. Blige (jaymc), Thursday, 5 December 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
xpost to DL … If everyone who complained about the lack of Swans last year had bought the Swans album, they'd be headlining the O2.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 5 December 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link