Nah, I wasn't really putting myself out there defending it. I was just sharing how it struck me the first time I read it. I agree there's no reason to bring up her womanhood qualifications.
Also, now I know who Alexa Chung is.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
But really, thanks for the dogpile everybody!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
i'm not dogpiling on anyonei'm just disappointed that someone would use that kind of "real woman" language and i also wondered what on earth makes her less than real and who is an example of a "real woman"? just a lot of questions, as usual.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
I guess you'd have to ask Fastnbulbous. I've carelessly gone overboard when trying to land a burn on someone before, so I just assumed that's what he'd done. I'd like to think he knows all women are real women.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
I don't really want to talk about it, those were just the questions running through my mind. I would rather talk about Year-End Critics' polls 2013 tbh! That's why it came as a surprise disappointment.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
Fair.
Is anyone publishing singles/tracks lists yet? Albums are boring.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
crazy that a manically obsessive cataloger of rock music said something sexist
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
When is Fastnbulbous gonna post his list of his 200 favorite real women?
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Someone linked to the Popmatters tracks list upthread.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
And check some dude 's list of R&B singles.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
xp Yeah, most "tracks" and "singles" lists I've seen so far are pretty boring. Need more.
― billstevejim, Monday, 2 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
More better ones I mean.
the songs i actually know/like aren't written up v well on the popmatters list. like come on, as if any of the things mentioned in the "merry go round" writeup is what makes the song good.
― dyl, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
slow down, something wasn't written well on popmatters?
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 December 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 2, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really enjoying this. I even kinda like the two Chris Brown things!
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Monday, 2 December 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Good grief, I came back from the dentist, had no idea I'd caused such outrage. Apologies if you think that's sexist, that was not my intention. I should have worded it more neutrally, like "more mature person of substance." I watch FUSE News, perhaps out of nostalgia for the old days of music-related MTV news, but Alexa Chung just seems horrible. She's almost always grating, with her attempts at snark and sarcasm making her sound like she's all of 16 years old. Not to say all ex-fashion models don't have something to offer as TV hosts/broadcast journalists. Liz Walaszczyk and Matte Babel are also pretty faces who may also be ex-models for all I know, but are less annoying in the context of the show. Maybe Chung is a lovely person off camera and will grow into her role on the show. Jack Osbourne has become quite charming and likable on the show too.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Jack Osbourne has a job? I clearly never see Fuse.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 December 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
i don't even know what fuse is or what show you're talking about!generally speaking, i wish people would say "mature person of substance." instead of using easily misinterpreted shorthand like "real ______" i also don't think it's worthwhile to make generalizations about anyone, so i'm glad you cleared that up fnb.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
Thanks. Ironically, it's my wife who really hates Chung to the point where I'm not allowed to watch FUSE news when she's in the room! Speaking of generalizations, J0rdan "manically obsessive cataloger of rock music" S. can f-off.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 2 December 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
crazy that a manically obsessive cataloger of gucci mane lyrics said something dickish
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Did someone say there aren't enough lists here?
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/12/the_best_noise_tracks_2013.php
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2013/11/30/best-of-2013-noise/
DL: these series of tweets are relevant re: why I love "I'm In It"
https://twitter.com/taint_chakra/status/389125518374612992https://twitter.com/rmxbb/status/401852509842448384https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/403274998237761536https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/403281541695946752
― when a real whiney hold you down, you sposed to drown (The Reverend), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
besides its menacing grind just being immensely satisfying
― when a real whiney hold you down, you sposed to drown (The Reverend), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
x-post - more Magnet lists here including hiphop and world...http://www.magnetmagazine.com/category/best-of-2013/
Eminem #1 on their hiphop list. Uh, nevermind.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
good stufff raymond
― flopson, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
raymond i salute yr everlasting sightings love
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
Haha thanks guys
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
These lists are honestly my favorite part of the music crit year. What sucks is that right after they're published I learn about doper noise that dropped the same year.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
Jeez, I have really not been keeping up with the albums this year...only familiar with the last three on your list there. So much noise, so little time.
― scottishfinn, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
fuck it http://www.complex.com/music/2013/12/best-songs-of-2013/
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
xp Thanks Rev
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/best-albums-2013/
― afroslack, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
That Bill Callahan CD doesn't appear to be on any streaming service. Was going to give it a spin.
― jetfan, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link
Has anyone else popped in to point out how confused they are that KoRn is showing up on more than one of these lists? No? Okay, consider it done.
― Rock You like a Hamstercane (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:36 (ten years ago) link
Drag City, right? They don't play ball with streaming.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 06:21 (ten years ago) link
Pleased to see these in a list:
35 Mark Kozelek & Jimmy Lavalle - Perils From The Sea36 Mark Kozelek & Desertshore.
― djh, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:35 (ten years ago) link
That said, I'm hoping to see a list that echoes what I've been listening to with a few curve-balls that make me think "I need to hear that".
― djh, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link
So I finally got round to listening to Yeezus and after four tracks I was all "why on earth didn't I listen to this before" and by the end of the album I was more "ah, that's why".
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link
Quietus Albums Of The Year 2013http://thequietus.com/articles/13960-albums-of-the-year-2013
1. Grumbling Fur - Glynnaestra (Thrill Jockey)2. These New Puritans - Field Of Reeds (Infectious)3. David Bowie - The Next Day (EMI)4. Factory Floor - Factory Floor (DFA)5. Fat White Family - Champagne Holocaust (Trash Mouth)6. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Push The Sky Away (Bad Seed Ltd.)7. Daniel Avery - Drone Logic (Phantasy)8. Frisk Frugt - Dansktoppen Møder Burkina Faso I Det Himmelblå Rum Hvor Solen Bor, Suite (Exotic Pylon)9. Foals - Holy Fire (Transgressive)10. RP Boo - Legacy (Planet Mu)
11. Savages - Silence Yourself (Matador)12. Stara Rzeka - Cień Chmury Nad Ukrytym Polem (Instant Classic)13. Kanye West - Yeezus (Virgin Records)14. The Haxan Cloak - Excavation (Tri Angle)15. Rashad Becker - Traditional Music Of Notional Species Vol. 1 (PAN)16. Blixa Bargeld & Teho Teardo - Still Smiling (Spècula)17. Jon Hopkins - Immunity (Domino)18. Oneohtrix Point Never - R Plus Seven (Warp)19. Pinkunoizu - The Drop (Full Time Hobby)20. Logos - Cold Mission (Keysound)
21. Laurel Halo - Chance Of Rain (Hyperdub)22. The Knife - Shaking The Habitual (Rabid Records)23. Kelela - Cut 4 Me (Fade To Mind)24. Fire! Orchestra - Exit! (Rune Grammofon)25. Teeth Of The Sea - Master (Rocket)26. Pet Shop Boys - Electric (x2)27. Floorplan - Paradise (M-Plant)28. Vatican Shadow - Remember Your Black Day (Hospital)29. Matmos - The Marriage Of True Minds (Thrill Jockey)30. A$AP Rocky - Long.Live.A$AP (RCA)
31. A$AP Ferg - Trap Lord (Columbia)32. Heatsick - Re-Engineering (PAN)33. British Sea Power - Machineries Of Joy (Rough Trade)34. Wire - Change Becomes Us (Pink Flag)35. Dean Blunt - The Redeemer (Hippos In Tanks/World Music)36. (Ensemble Pearl) - (Ensemble Pearl) (Drag City)37. Le1f - Fly Zone (self released)38. A Hawk And A Hacksaw - You Have Already Gone To The Other World (LM Dupli-Cation)39. Don Christian - The Wayfarer (self-released)40. L.Pierre - The Island Come True (Melodic)
41. WANDA GROUP - Piss Fell Out Like Sunlight (Opal Tapes)42. Suede - Bloodsports (Warner)43. Charles Cohen - The Middle Distance (Morphine)44. Satelliti - Transister (Cuckundoo)45. Rabih Beaini - Albidaya (Annihaya)46. Moonface - Julia With Blue Jeans On (Jagjaguwar)47. John Foxx And The Maths - Evidence (Metamatic)48. NYPC - NYPC (The Numbers)49. Matt Berry - Kill The Wolf (Acid Jazz)50. Katie Gately - Katie Gately (Public Information)
51. Tamikrest - Chatma (Glitterbeat)52. Wolf Eyes - No Answer: Lower Floors (De Stijl)53. Oranssi Pazuzu - Valonielu (SVART)54. Prurient - Through The Window (Blackest Ever Black)55. Emptyset - Recur (Raster Noton)56. Gary Numan - Splinter (Cooking Vinyl/Mortal)57. Heterotic - Love & Devotion (Planet Mu)58. The Stranger - Watching Dead Empires In Decay (Modern Love)59. Sons Of Kemet - Burn (Naim)60. Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter Two: Mississippi Moonchile (Constellation)
61. Miracle - Mercury (Planet Mu)62. English Heretic - “Anti-Heroes” (self-released)63. Derek Piotr - Raj (self-released)64. Kerridge - A Fallen Empire (Downwards)65. My Bloody Valentine - m b v (Pickpocket Records)66. The Botanist - IV: Mandragora (Flenser)67. Janelle Monáe - The Electric Lady (Atlantic)68. Tal National - Kaani (Fat Cat)69. Young Echo - Nexus (Ramp)70. Jenny Hval - Innocence Is Kinky (Rune Grammofon)
71. Dawn Richard - GoldenHeart (101 Distribution)72. Årabrot - Årabrot (Fysisk Format)73. Endless Boogie - Long Island (Drag City)74. Body/Head - Coming Apart (Matador)75. TVO/Covered In Sand - Red Night Variations (Broken20)76. Earl Sweatshirt - Doris (Columbia)77. Dethscalator - Racial Golf Course No Bitches (Riot Season)78. The Body - Christs, Redeemers (Thrill Jockey)79. James Holden - The Inheritors (Border Community)80. Pusha T - My Name Is My Name (Good/Def Jam)
81. DJ Rashad - Double Cup (Hyperdub)82. *AR - Fragments (Sustain Release)83. Wölfbait - Wölfbait (Art For The Blind)84. Barn Owl - V (Thrill Jockey)85. Hey Colossus - Cuckoo Live Life Like Cuckoo (MIE)86. oVo - Abisso (Supernatural Cat)87. Carcass - Surgical Steel (Nuclear Blast)88. Lescop - Lescop (Pop Noire)89. Laura Mvula - Sing To The Moon (RCA)90. Grouper - The Man Who Died In His Boat (Kranky)
91. Palehorse - Harm Starts Here (Candlelight)92. Uncle Acid And The Deadbeats - Mind Control (Rise Above)93. Comanechi - You Owe Me Nothing But Love (Tiger Trap)94. Cathedral - The Final Spire (Rise Above)95. White Hills - So You Are So You’ll Be (Thrill Jockey)96. Chrome Hoof - Chrome Black Gold (Cuneiform)97. Omar Souleyman - Wenu Wenu (Domino)98. ÄÄNIPÄÄ - Through A Pre-Memory (Editions Mego)99. The Ex And Brass Unbound - Enormous Door (Ex)100. Shitfucker - Sucks Cocks In Hell (Hells Headbangers)
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link
Lots of stuff I really want to hear in there - Katie Gately, Derek Piotr, the Botanist, Ensemble Pearl
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:11 (ten years ago) link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/13960/matt_berry_kill_the_wolf_1371821632_crop_300x300_1385244053_crop_300x300.jpg
^ as a fan of dark folk music i did try and listen to this but um
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:12 (ten years ago) link
The "I've Only Got So Much Time On This Planet" list there.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link
100. Shitfucker - Sucks Cocks In Hell (Hells Headbangers)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link
Quietus in a nutshell there.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link
Dansktoppen Møder Burkina Faso I Det Himmelblå Rum Hvor Solen Bor, Suite
The fuck?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link
No Melt Yourself Down = sadface.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link
That record's pretty good actually if you like the thought of ramshackle scandinavian folk music meets fake west african-style congotronicsy thumb piano stuff.
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:32 (ten years ago) link
Honestly that sounds like the most insufferable thing imaginable but I like the sound of the Grumbling Fur record at #1.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link
that doesn't sound too bad, does it? i mean... how?
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link