Year-End Critics' Polls 2013

Bill Meyer's list, totally trustworthy guy as far as music recommendations go ime.

If you are going to express casual misogyny, you have to have good beats to go along with it.

Haven't heard these from RS list:

37. The So So Glows - Blowout
36. Waxahatchee - Cerulean Salt
29. Bombino - Nomad

― Fastnbulbous, Monday, December 2, 2013 12:24 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Waxahatchee is Top 20 for me. Recommended if you think Kathleen Edwards might sound good doing Exile-era Liz Phair.

Waxahatchee + Bombino both great imo.

I don't know who Alexa Chung even is, but that didn't come across to me as misogynistic as it did a personalized Alexa Chung burn.

No, Alexa Chung is an annoying celebrity who is famous for being famous, it's still VERY CLEARLY sexist.

"a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman" "a real woman"

that's all i saw too
i don't even know who she is but if she is a female human being, she is probably a "real woman"
it's disappointing to read shit like that

I can't believe people would even put themselves out there defending that statement from allegations from sexism until I remember that last month we had a poster defending the position that the dick-dressed-up-in-blackface picture Lily Allen tweeted at Azealia Banks wasn't actually in blackface

agree with emil.y and LL here

and Dan

Depressing that such basic shit still requires explaining

Nah, I wasn't really putting myself out there defending it. I was just sharing how it struck me the first time I read it. I agree there's no reason to bring up her womanhood qualifications.

Also, now I know who Alexa Chung is.

But really, thanks for the dogpile everybody!

i'm not dogpiling on anyone
i'm just disappointed that someone would use that kind of "real woman" language and i also wondered what on earth makes her less than real and who is an example of a "real woman"? just a lot of questions, as usual.

I guess you'd have to ask Fastnbulbous. I've carelessly gone overboard when trying to land a burn on someone before, so I just assumed that's what he'd done. I'd like to think he knows all women are real women.

I don't really want to talk about it, those were just the questions running through my mind. I would rather talk about Year-End Critics' polls 2013 tbh! That's why it came as a surprise disappointment.

Fair.

Is anyone publishing singles/tracks lists yet? Albums are boring.

crazy that a manically obsessive cataloger of rock music said something sexist

When is Fastnbulbous gonna post his list of his 200 favorite real women?

Is anyone publishing singles/tracks lists yet? Albums are boring.

Someone linked to the Popmatters tracks list upthread.

And check some dude 's list of R&B singles.

xp Yeah, most "tracks" and "singles" lists I've seen so far are pretty boring. Need more.

More better ones I mean.

the songs i actually know/like aren't written up v well on the popmatters list. like come on, as if any of the things mentioned in the "merry go round" writeup is what makes the song good.

slow down, something wasn't written well on popmatters?

And check some dude 's list of R&B singles.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 2, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really enjoying this. I even kinda like the two Chris Brown things!

Good grief, I came back from the dentist, had no idea I'd caused such outrage. Apologies if you think that's sexist, that was not my intention. I should have worded it more neutrally, like "more mature person of substance." I watch FUSE News, perhaps out of nostalgia for the old days of music-related MTV news, but Alexa Chung just seems horrible. She's almost always grating, with her attempts at snark and sarcasm making her sound like she's all of 16 years old. Not to say all ex-fashion models don't have something to offer as TV hosts/broadcast journalists. Liz Walaszczyk and Matte Babel are also pretty faces who may also be ex-models for all I know, but are less annoying in the context of the show. Maybe Chung is a lovely person off camera and will grow into her role on the show. Jack Osbourne has become quite charming and likable on the show too.

Jack Osbourne has a job? I clearly never see Fuse.

i don't even know what fuse is or what show you're talking about!
generally speaking, i wish people would say "mature person of substance." instead of using easily misinterpreted shorthand like "real ______"
i also don't think it's worthwhile to make generalizations about anyone, so i'm glad you cleared that up fnb.

Thanks. Ironically, it's my wife who really hates Chung to the point where I'm not allowed to watch FUSE news when she's in the room! Speaking of generalizations, J0rdan "manically obsessive cataloger of rock music" S. can f-off.

crazy that a manically obsessive cataloger of gucci mane lyrics said something dickish

Did someone say there aren't enough lists here?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/12/the_best_noise_tracks_2013.php

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2013/11/30/best-of-2013-noise/

DL: these series of tweets are relevant re: why I love "I'm In It"

https://twitter.com/taint_chakra/status/389125518374612992
https://twitter.com/rmxbb/status/401852509842448384
https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/403274998237761536
https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/403281541695946752

besides its menacing grind just being immensely satisfying

x-post - more Magnet lists here including hiphop and world...http://www.magnetmagazine.com/category/best-of-2013/

Eminem #1 on their hiphop list. Uh, nevermind.

good stufff raymond

raymond i salute yr everlasting sightings love

Haha thanks guys

These lists are honestly my favorite part of the music crit year. What sucks is that right after they're published I learn about doper noise that dropped the same year.

Jeez, I have really not been keeping up with the albums this year...only familiar with the last three on your list there. So much noise, so little time.

fuck it http://www.complex.com/music/2013/12/best-songs-of-2013/

xp Thanks Rev

http://www.spin.com/articles/best-albums-2013/

That Bill Callahan CD doesn't appear to be on any streaming service. Was going to give it a spin.

Has anyone else popped in to point out how confused they are that KoRn is showing up on more than one of these lists? No? Okay, consider it done.

Drag City, right? They don't play ball with streaming.

Pleased to see these in a list:

35 Mark Kozelek & Jimmy Lavalle - Perils From The Sea
36 Mark Kozelek & Desertshore.

That said, I'm hoping to see a list that echoes what I've been listening to with a few curve-balls that make me think "I need to hear that".