Is this anti-semitism?

sometimes a set of sunglasses is just etc etc

i'm pretty sure 'jews = money' predates the rothschild banking empire

i'm not familiar w/ the jew wearing a top hat stereotype

― Mordy , Monday, November 25, 2013 9:10 PM (2 hours ago)

The hats worn by religious Jewish men have changed over time & the top hat has definitely been associated with Jews in the past, though this could be more through the idea of Jews being seen to be very keen on hats in general at times when the most common hats happened to be top hats.

But even today (like, actually today, when I'm trying to research this), people often make the mistake of calling those wide-brimmed Orthodox hats top hats. It seems plausible that in the crude visual language of cold war propaganda the top hat could symbolise the Jew, though it seems equally plausible that the image just represents a melange of signifiers of the mean-spirited capitalist, with any Jewish elements included only because they are there in the larger stereotype. The scarf is the biggest mystery to me, but maybe it's just chilly in the West.

are you a russian major?

top hats just shorthand for power elements such as 'international finance' back in the day, when a lot of people wore hats and top hats looked different to the shorter, wider brimmed hats hasidic jews tend to wear

http://nordoniahillsbranch.akronlibrary.org/files/2013/01/monopolyman.jpg

are you a russian major?

Nah, just putting together a thing about cold war propaganda, including this poster and others. It is a curious image.

Some leads on the top hat in Judaism:

The custom of wearing a top hat, or tzylinder in the Yiddish language, originated in 19th century England, replacing the wig and tricorn hat. The custom became widespread in Europe until The Holocaust.

Prominent Jews dressed in top hats attend the dedication of the synagogue in Rastenburg, East Prussia.

As hat styles changed, the synagogal top hat was seen less and less, and in England was maintained only by the honorary officers and, in some places, the shammas. But on great occasions like Kol Nidrei night and Yom Kippur there were still some congregants who, even in recent decades, wore top hats.

The Great Synagogue, Raymond Apple, p.144: Some critics dismiss the top hats as 'goyish' (gentile) and assimilatory, even though supposedly Jewish styles like the streimel and kapote are also imitations and survivals of the usages of the non-Jewish gentry in the Eastern Europe of a past age.

Front page of http://www.goldersgreenshul.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/The_GGS_Journal_Elul_5772.pdf

Not connecting these to the Soviet poster necessarily, but it's interesting.

Had no idea the ethnic politics of hats were so complicated.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/154767/why-netanyahu-gave-pope-francis-his-fathers-history-of-the-spanish-inquisition

In other words, Ben Zion Netanyahu’s argument shifted the root blame for the Inquisition from religion to ingrained racial animus–from the spiritual to the secular. If one was going to give the pope a book about the Inquisition, then, this would be the one. Moreover, not only does the book’s revisionist reckoning partially absolve Christianity for Spanish persecution of the Jews, it offers a contemporary message of pressing relevance. At a time when Christian anti-Semitism has receded–evidenced not least by the friendly relations between the Vatican and the state of Israel–secular and racial forms of anti-Semitism have been on the rise, particularly in Europe, where a nearly a quarter of Jews say they are afraid to publicly identify as Jewish. The anti-Semitism diagnosed by Ben Zion Netanyahu is alive and well.

The elder Netanyahu’s account of the Inquisition then, whatever its merits as a reconstruction of the past, serves as a powerful warning about the dangers lurking in the present–one that his son doubtless intended to convey.

god, what a dick

his boycott is the least offensive part of the interview. also a stupid tactic, voice your dissent where it most needs to be heard.

he looks like Richard Gere

FB: Yes, the brainwashing works!

What's Blumenthal's Goliath book like?

From The Jewish Daily Foward: Lest anyone miss the point, many of his chapters have titles like “The Concentration Camp,” “The Night of Broken Glass,” “This Belongs to the White Man” and “How to Kill Goyim and Influence People.”

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/16/roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/157379/american-studies-association-members-defend-israel-boycott-by-citing-anti-semitic-911-truther

That's interesting, but what implication is it really trying to create, that the entire ASA is actually anti-semitic?

or bds proponents within org

lol Roger Waters has really saddled himself atop the Do What You Gotta Do To Get Press horse eh

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Nicolas Anelka could face a Football Association charge for his controversial goal celebration during Saturday's 3-3 draw with West Ham.

Anelka confirmed to Downing that he did perform a quenelle, described by some as a "reverse Nazi salute", after his 40th-minute strike at Upton Park but as far as the West Brom hierarchy are concerned, it was done as a tribute to the French comedian Dieudonné, a friend of Anelka.

"This gesture was just a special dedication to my comedian friend Dieudonné," Anelka tweeted in both French and English on his official account.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/from-dieudonn-to-nicolas-anelka-hands-signal-new-french-race-row-9028420.html

Seems complicated. I doubt most neo-nazis have the dexterity for it.

It's like the nazi salute version of patting your head and rubbing your belly at the same time.

There is a fairly big debate in France regarding the sign being anti-semitic. I've seen some people in Montréal use it.

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

Ok where dyou want to do that

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

― turkey & stfuing (Noodle Vague), Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:07 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The extremely dubious claim is that the jewish establishment (media, politicians) has turned the symbol into an anti-semitic one to isolate Dieudonné and pro-palestinian groups.

In response to Dieudonne's numerous antisemitic statements, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls stated that Dieudonne was "no longer a comedian" but was rather an "anti-Semite and racist" and that he would seek to ban all Dieudonne's public gatherings as they amounted to a public safety risk. He can not be an anti-semite, the system is trying to make him an anti semite. How come a show man that had spent his life fighting rasism can be treated of this sort. The quennelle sign is a sign against the system and not an anti-semite sign.[3]

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-semitism-seen-driving-massive-rise-in-french-aliyah/

france giving hungary a run for its money!

where is the best place to be a jew in europe right now, in the sense of least likely to encounter anti-semitism

re quenelle: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/world/europe/concern-over-quenelle-gesture-grows-in-france.html

So I reported a facebook page for having a few guys doing la quenelle as their cover photo, it's for some kind of anti-sionist, pro-quebec separation, anti-capitalist TV show, all huge Dieudonné fans. Facebook took down the photo.

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist

french jews are crazy racist tho

I want you to explain that comment.

When I think of french jews I think of the last time I was in Tel Aviv, when I was on the beach with H and K and this older french couple started talking to us. I guess I looked a little bit swaggy because i had my tortoise shell ray-bans and was kind of in shape, and the old guy was like "What kind of work - finance? finance?" And the way he pronounced it twice "fee-NAHNCE? fee-NAHNCE?" always rings out in my head.

He also told me I speak English "like an Englishman"

also my downstairs neighbor is apparently an older french jewish lady who smokes a lot and I can smell her damned cigarettes in my daughter's room, which is fucking gross. So I hate that lady.

From personal experience (family, living there), a lot of french people are crazy racists.

Yesterday I got into a Twitter argument with someone who insisted that anti-semitism didn't mean anti-Jew because not all semitic peoples are Jews. When I pointed out that "anti-semitism" was coined with that specific meaning, one that is widely understood and cited by all dictionaries and encyclopaedias, he responded that it was "confirmation bias" and most people were mindless sheep who didn't understand the true meaning of words. Predictably, it turned out that he was a raving anti-semite, in the popular sense of the word. Bigots love arguing about semantics.

"phobia means 'fear' but i'm not frightened of gays" etc

lol they're not anti-semantic that's for sur

Can't be anti-semitic if yr cool with Akkadians iirc

i'd Hittite

no wait they were Aryan sorry

lol

xp OTM re: homophobia. Also related to people who like to say the Nazis were National SOCIALISTS, ignoring the admittedly counterintuitive early 20C concept of anti-Marxist socialism.

considering anti-semitism was designed (by an anti-semite!) to be a more scientific term for jew-hatred, maybe we should just agree w/ these semantic assholes that they're not anti-semites and just go back to judenhass for the favored expression.