Rolling Boxing Thread / Anticipating Manny vs. Mayweather

though i guess they can never take "first dude to get fired by his trainer via twitter" away from him now

man I was very saddened by that fight and the way people reacted to it was for the most part also depressing

didnt see rios-pac but im glad pac won decisively - he needed to. my fantasy is he walks through bradley, jmm and floyd in that order and then retires

that would be so rad but he is very much not the Pac of old. he boxed more than I've ever seen really and he didn't turn on the FINISH HIM style really hardly at all. it was really something watching him continually moving to the right - Rios didn't know how to deal with it because both of them are usually stand-and-swing dudes but it's clear Roach has retooled Pac's style. think Floyd's been successful in his "at all costs, find a way to put Pac off til he's older" strategy

does he have a graph with his anticipated decline curve offset against manny's and is waiting for the biggest gap

do any americans give a shit about fights like groves froch? i didn't watch any of this weekend's fights

lol at this thread being nearly 8 yrs old

or wait was the subtitle added later even so

Marcos Maidana beat the hell out of Adrian Broner last night. Knocked him down twice and delivered the most dramatic intentional headbutt I've seen in a while - which Broner earned, imo, he was holding Maidana's arms tight to buy time. On the undercard Soto-Karass couldn't put it together at all against Keith Thurman but Thurman is a truly outstanding fighter in my opinion, there's not a lot of people who'll look like much against him. He hasn't faced anybody of note yet but he's gone through everybody they put in front of him and I think he'd beat Robert Guerrero decisively. However he's the mandatory challenger for Maidana now and I really don't think he's ready for that, Maidana's got a huge arsenal of tools - last night he came in charging, boxed going forward, boxed on the ropes, just looked great. Broner's record isn't exactly littered with big names but I think he's better than his detractors say - still, Maidana exposed that B can't really think under real pressure. Honestly I think after he got knocked down in the second round he never fully recovered, fighters with a "never been knocked down" badge are setting themselves up for failure when the day comes

http://i.imgur.com/1gJ6nzK.gif

Mike Tyson @ 15

yea broner got hit w everything maidana through, i agree he never recovered from being hurt early. also his flop-acting in reaction to the headbutt was p lame

threw not through

also wtf is w the fake humping move

it's a jorge paez move from way back. paez was an entertaining fighter for sure but he's on nobody's list of greats. when paez did it it was to say "you're clinching too much" though - w/broner it seemed much more in keeping with his pretty dull machismo (leaking of vine of himself having a threesome earlier this week, etc)

broner's young and has a hell of a skill set no doubt but I think tasting the canvas was traumatic for him and having to hear the decision was possibly worse - he wants to be Floyd, but Floyd is dead serious about boxing - most of his hammy shit is just to drive numbers imo. I don't think Broner gets that and I think it'll be a minute before he gets another title shot.

also in this fight some very shitty ref'ing which was why Maidana did the headbutt in the first place - in that situation, where your arms are being held and the ref isn't calling it, the headbutt was exactly the right move. take the point deduction to let the other guy know that if the ref isn't going to make you pay for this I will and I don't give a shit. broner should have had a point docked at least once, pretty questionable ringwork by the ref

Laurence Cole is pretty much the worst ref in America who works big fights

so, Chavez Jr vs. Brian Vera was a pretty good fight - Jr. showed up ready to go, fought really well, landed amazing punches. Vera's game and never went down but can't hit hard enough to take out the Jr who showed up last night. Round 12 was annoying showboating that was wholly unnecessary but 1-11 were nice

terrible reffing again and one pretty questionable scorecard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYeSXpC244

good fight card on HBO right now. the Mayfield-Delorme press conference was pretty OTT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj1-GrRIcAEvFJ6.jpg

i dunno if it's just bradley's demeanor or what, but between rounds he looks totally unresponsive and it's starting to freak me out a little

I didn't buy this fight. just didn't figure it'd be worth the scratch and it sounds like it wasn't. Always glad to hear Pac won, but honestly I think it's time for him to go out on a winning note.

Justin Bieber is singing for Floyd tonight so all the twitter links to the umm unofficial stream are from Beliebers

lol

115-113 Maidana for me. Very close, drawish fight. 117-111 for Floyd is a poor card.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> george groves fans

froch ✓

thought that was a shit fight, cracking shot to finish it

idk i thought it was alright in a scrappy, uncertain, tactical way, ko was so good because despite having been mostly outclassed, for the last round or so groves was irritating him and then suddenly that happens

that amir khan interview was strange, possible case of dementia pugilistica outside of the ring maybe

too tactical for my liking - felt they were both too worried about getting hurt/making a mistake

I didn't see the Khan bit

he said groves was controlling it, sky interviewer tried to correct him 'you mean froch?' but amir insisted he meant groves

think it was after round 4 or 5

bit annoyed i missed this

I agreed with Jim Watt that Froch won 4 or the first 5 but much of twitter was calling Watt punchy and saying Groves won 4 rounds idk wtf people were seeing that I missed

4 of*

someone gif the final punch at least

https://vine.co/v/MpaHu13IP3U

vine link

amazing ko. it'd be interesting to see how the judges scored it - pretty hard fight to score imo.

fuck every doubting cunt Froch is REAL

in the 24/7 prep show for this second maidana fight, floyd goes to do a pilates/hot yoga class -- he puts down a matt and lays out a perimeter of $100 bills around him. then at some pt during the class a dude in his crew pops in with the mcdonalds floyd asked for, floyd goes into the hallway and eats 2 big macs, fries, and soda, and returns to the yoga class

maidana was kinda flailing but floyd was poss tired/hurt or took rd 3 off

maidana takes a page out of luis suarez' playbook

I don't think Hopkins should retire for his health, I think he should retire because if he actually fought Stevenson or Kovalev he'd get embarrassed.

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, October 27, 2013 1:53 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think hes gonna lose but idk embarrassed

foreman is soo pro-bhop when hes not won a rd yet and looks p bad

idk how hopkins stayed standing

fair 2 say embarassed imo. good call

I'm not sure i've been aware of Hopkins, ever? The NY Times Mag profile of him the week before this fight was pretty impressive tho.

So, armed only with native smarts and a jailhouse G.E.D., Hopkins set out to turn a weakness into strength. “I started asking questions, trying to figure out how everybody else was making more than me, and I’m taking the punches,” he said. “I had to learn the business — international rights, marketing, license fees, the gate, concessions, merchandising, sponsors.” He did it on the sly at first. “I didn’t want to let people know I was trying to learn, or they would have tried to stop me, so I would ask questions about other fighters who set an example for me not to do.”

By 1995 he felt ready to take over his own boxing affairs, and he has managed himself ever since, employing lawyers and other “soldiers who do the legal mumbo jumbo” to help negotiate deals that allow him to take home a much greater share of the money he makes in the ring. “I started getting mines late in the game, once I realized I should know this before I became another [expletive]-up fighter,” he said. “If you don’t know your own value, somebody will tell you your value, and it’ll be less than you’re worth.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/magazine/bernard-hopkins-boxings-oldest-and-most-cunning-champion.html

he should probably hang up his gloves now, he hung in 12 rounds with Kovalev which is a lot, but I'm guessing he keeps going for a few more paydays and maybe changes his nickname to Lazarus

the best young boxer in the world, and maybe the best period soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iobyLer7kEg

Inoue looked v sharp on the attack and snapped off quite a few crisp powerful punches, but his opponent obv wasn't a counterpuncher and basically had no offense, so he was never really challenged.

opponent had also lost once in 15 years, by decision

deonte/stiverne is such a contrast of personalities, kinda love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJFaJntFyU

rios beat the fuk out of alvarado