― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 16 May 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I love that Sa-Ra tour CDr that is going around, here's to hoping they don't fuck with the formula too much on their upcoming studio disc.
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
how many sub-jay dee beats and programming can anyone take though? i hear that sound of his in so many underground producers, i just want them to move past that mellowness, that stacatto drum pattern, and that 'this could be slum village couldnt it?!' mood music.
"i mentioned in the Sa Ra thread how the major complaint of these guys is lack of songwriting, but i just don't even understand what that means. i mean, there's a beat, a chord progression (or not, but a lot of the jazz i love is only one chord, and NEU!). there are vocals, there's sometimes a hook. i mean, coming from someone who loves jungle and dance music, how can you expect it in this genre, but not in that. are you an r'n'b-ist?"
but this doesnt come from jungle and dance, it comes from soul, R&b and hip hop. id say these guys grew up on hip hop, then are trying their hand on R&b and soul type stuff, and it shows in the songwriting, cos its pretty static and mechanical. they havent quite understood that not all music is made like hip hop is. the problem i have with ppp and sa-ra is a lot of their music lacks any sort of momentum, it just glides along, or jogs along, and never really goes anywhere. its all about maintaining a vibe rather than developing a song as such. kinda like a hip hop beat and someone singing rap lyrics. the songs with georgia (i think) on the ppp album are the absolute pits cos of this. shes just rambling on barely strung together words that sound like they should be rapped instead of sing. and the funny thing is that despite their reactionary dissing of neo soul, theyre still close to that sound with their mellowness, their tranquility and their songlessness. (btw, sa ra are not peppermints and incense, lyrically speaking - people should listen closer).
all that said, sa-ra do have a few good songs to their credit, only about 3 or 4 though.
― ppp, Monday, 16 May 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Sa-Ra have a new single/mini-compilation of their production work for Pharaoh Monche, J Dilla and Steve Spacek out now, called "Second Time Around." It is- como se dice?- fucking awesome. And apparently Kanye's signed them- if I hear "Glorious" or "Double Dutch" on mainstream pop radio I will be orgasmically happy.
― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― okok, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link
waajeed live on deviation (bbc 1xtra)
1. diverse - aint right2. platinum pied pipers - try me3. jonny miller - everyday4. teddy seven - steady5. alison crockett - U R (yam who? remix)6. leroy hutson - love this feeling (moodymann reedit)7. metal fingers - orange blossom instrumental8. platinum pied pipers ft elleuud - one to love you9. waajeed - vangelis10. slum village - la la11. jay dee - guitar 12. jay dee - it's dope13. jay dee - kaamal14. sa ra creative partners - glorious 15. fourtet - serious as your life (jay dee remix ft guilty simpson)16. wajeed - untitled beat17. platinum pied pipers - better days18. waajeed - tron19. theo parrish - musical metaphors20. amp fiddler - superficial (moodymann remix)21. urban tribe - covert action22. galaxy 2 galaxy - journey of the dragons23. wajeed - tron24. rhythim is rhythim - it is what it is25. dego & kaidi tatham - ain't nothing you can't feel26. dabrye - you know the formula right27. brandy - turn it up
killer set, esp if you're feeling the whole jay-dee-meets-detroit-techno sort of vibe.
hold tight for the YSI.
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway before we get to the YSI:
it's all abt CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT.
it's hard to love this shit when it's SLSKed in the form of hastily-assembled "bootleg"/"unreleased" mp3 folders on random people's. i especially had this problem w/ sa-ra. i don't want to hear a 20 track "compilation" that's 1/3rd intros/skits and 1/3rd studio outtakes and random beat compositions.
on the other hand, hearing it in mixed form w/ benji b and waajeed's heartwarming collegial chatter over the top ... OMGs all around. why have i been sleeping on PPP?!?!
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
plantlife is gooood.
― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link
(any idea how long 164 mb should take on 802.11g broadband?)
well, expect it by ... tomorrow, at the latest.
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EZMPVKF3OU18170O5LZ8JTU2B
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 14 January 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link
would you be at all interested in a DJ Houseshoes mix? he's a detroit dj who specializes in all this stuff. the beats are all fantastic, but (honestly) the mcs are kinda backpackery. i can upload if wanted
― jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 January 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link
(poor strongo - working on dead president's day?)
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link
(p.s. thnx dude)
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
i think i've heard most everything that they played. the coolest parts were the interviews and hearing that Amp Fiddler taught Jay Dee how to use the MPC. i've got the amp fiddler album, but i never really got into it. i should go back and give it another chance now
― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Weather Report - River People
xpost - yeah, it's a really good show. i do appreciate it.
― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i love that diverse album
― ,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Crocus Behemoth (modern dance), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
www.brucewang.com/adoru/sa-ra.zip
link's still active.
― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
What next, Ursula Rucker?
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Crocus Behemoth (modern dance), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Crocus Behemoth (modern dance), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link
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― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
art of customization
1. Dollar - Steve Spacek 2. Now or Never - Platinum Pied Pipers 3. Hideyaface [Instrumental] - Prefuse 73 4. I Don't Care - Black Spade 5. Simply So [Sa-Ra Remix] - GB, Steve Spacek 6. Glorious - Sa-Ra Creative Partners 7. The Hop - Radio City 8. Reverible Top - Steve Spacek 9. Time Has Come - Exile, Slum Village 10. Can't Hold On - M.E.D. 11. Broad Factor - Quasimoto 12. Listen - Black Spade, Darien Brockington 13. Move, Pt.2 - Daz-I-Kue 14. Show Me the Way [Seiji Remix] - Zap Mama 15. Everybody Loves the Sunshine [Demo Version] - Roy Ayers
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I could not get into the new record at all.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
aw, i loved abundance. especially the karma stewart numbers, "on a cloud" is fierce as fuck
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
new ppp is way better than old ppp. but even then, i like it, but it can seem like its trying to do too much at once.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Abundance is all right, but Triple P is a lot better imo. All the great personalities that were present on the first record got shafted in favor of anono-soulers.
― The-Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link