Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel

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I've been on a Foetus kick for the last few days. The timelessness of these recordings is astounding. The absence of band photos or videos, combined with the facts that he's always been difficult to pigeonhole AND the superb quality of the recordings means they could have been released anytime in the last 30 years. Things like "Diabolus in Musica" or "Sick Minutes" sound so contemporary alonside groups like Battles, for instance.

everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not surprised David Gedge likes Foetus & the Membranes - apparently the name The Wedding Present was inspired by his being a fan of the Birthday Party.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

And the early Weddoes stuff was super-intense too.

Currently listening to Stereoid Maximus's "Gondwanaland". Wild. And GROOVY!

everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Along with everybody else, I just fucking LOVE the mid-to-late-80s Foetus stuff. Esp Nail, but the singles and side projex too. Fucking Wiseblood! Amazing music and the lyrics are even better. Stuck in that "confrontational" 80s fake tough guy mode, but still so smart, funny, self-lacerating and perversely joyful. I like how he frames the stereotypical pigfuck tropes as 40s hard-boiled noir. Gives it a big wink and makes the nihilist mutilation angle seem a lot less pretentious. Damn fine producer of other folks' music, too (Boss Hog, etc.).

Bob Standard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

my sister found out she lives in his old house! a pale youth was standin outside the front door looking overinterestedly at her windows and she said "wtf dude" and he explained

mark s, Saturday, 25 August 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

of course he might just have been a perve w.a genius line in cover stories

mark s, Saturday, 25 August 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

WHEN YOU'RE DESTINED TO LIVE IN A STREET OF SHAME

STREET OF SHAME

Bimble, Monday, 27 August 2007 08:21 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG I'd just die knowing I lived in the guy's house. Actually, no, I think I'd dress up as Lydia Lunch and rub my body against the walls for a few hours.

nathalie, Monday, 27 August 2007 08:34 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'LL MEET YOU IN POLAND, BABY!

onimo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Hole never gets old. What a record.

onimo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i totally agree.

i wonder if the remastered version that i read rumours about were actually ever released by some bizarre, and whether they are worth the extra £££ on an album i have already got 4 copies of ..

mark e, Thursday, 13 September 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'LL MEET YOU IN POLAND, BABY!

i mean to post that line every 1st of september but always forget.

stirmonster, Thursday, 13 September 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Downloaded Hole, Nail, Thaw and Sink as a result of reading this thread a couple of weeks ago. Damn, that shit holds up. "I'm gonna soak my head under your hose!"

unperson, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Flow and Love are essential

Just got offed, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"Love" remix album is coming soon. Jason Forrest and Fennesz are involved, amongst others. The re-issues are definetely out there now but I haven't heard them.

everything, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

"Butterfly Potion" as the pinnacle of human achievement: discuss

Telephone thing, Saturday, 15 September 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

>"Butterfly Potion" as the pinnacle of human achievement: discuss

Nah, I gotta go with "A Prayer For My Death."

unperson, Saturday, 15 September 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Then it seems we are at an impasse.

Telephone thing, Saturday, 15 September 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

All of this shit is still amazing.

HI DERE, Saturday, 15 September 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

>"Butterfly Potion" as the pinnacle of human achievement: discuss

Nah, I gotta go with "A Prayer For My Death."

-- unperson, Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:13 PM (4 hours ago)

"Throne of Agony" maybe?

John Justen, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Louis, I know we've discussed this before, but I have to admit that I think LOVE is the least essential of his work so far (to the point that I got a little worried that he'd fallen off, actually. The first time I bought a foetus rec and had a "eh." reaction to it.)

John Justen, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

My cureent high rotation favorite is "Kid Hates Kid", actually.

John Justen, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Love > Gash

S-, Monday, 17 September 2007 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, if for nothing else, Love is worth it for 'Don't Want Me Anymore' alone, a supreme, slow-building fusion of orchestra and fuzz-guitar with an absolutely lethal pay-off.

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Love > Gash

Haven't heard "Love" yet but there is no denying the classic-ness of "Hammer Falls."

Telephone thing, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

whenever Offed comes in on this thread, i always feel guilty for having ignored my Foetus collection for so long. must be a hormonal thing, as i only ever enjoy Jims groove when i am pissed off, which has to be said, is a very rare situation these days.
though i can listen to Nail what ever mood i am in.
oh, and i far prefer Slung on Gash.

mark e, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Much as I bang on about Foetus, I only have 3 of his albums, namely the last two and Nail (courtesy of JJ). All are very good, but I definitely need to explore further.

That said, I can't imagine anything else of his being better than "Kreibabe". Tenser, fiercer, and more emotionally wrought than most plays, the song unfolds like twisted opera, for a genuinely (as opposed to Lloyd-Webber circus-freak) disturbed mind to find reason within its own depravity, racking up the wrongness and the paranoia by increments throughout its 13-minute runtime. Show-stopping. Stunning. Most unbelievable of all, catchy!

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

is it too late to trade in my mind

Just got offed, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

LJ I swear I'm gonna send you Hole if you haven't heard it yet.

I found a promo vinyl copy of the Null EP on the East Coast abandoned under a record rack for a mere six bucks. Never heard it, or any of the Sony stuff in fact. It's pretty damn good! Now I have copied Gash and Love from the radio station and plan on doing a little catching up with Mr. Thirlwell in 2008.

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Hole? To my eternal shame, I only have 'Nail', 'Flow' and 'Love' thus far. If you're feeling any seasonal charity, I'd be very grateful!

Just got offed, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

HUMAN HEIFFER FOR A FILLET VEAL!
HUGH HEFNER AND A HUMAN MEAL!
SOMEONE'S MAKING ME A HUMAN MEAL!

dude, get HOLE immediately.

StanM, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

or else I'm gonna cook you a stew you'll choke on!

StanM, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish someone would write a book about his lyrics - I finally found out that "the snot-green sea, the scrotum-tightening sea" is from James Joyce's 'Ulysses' quite recently, for instance

StanM, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Louis, your ILX mail address doesn't work?

StanM, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm. papi3rm4ch3alamph1b1an at hotmail dot com (de-googleproofed, of course) is probably the best one to get in touch with.

Just got offed, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

not just hole - but Wiseblood aswell sir, and what no Thaw!
natually, i can help you if required sir ..

mark e, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, it is Christmas! Just the time for spinning JT's delightful carols to human depravity.

Just got offed, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

MAAAANDELAAAAAYYYYYEEEEEEEE

Just got offed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

newest remix album is ?? so far as to how i feel about it

John Justen, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of which, is mr thirlwell remixing much of anybody these days? i still have the CD5 with his RHCP remix on it, and some other stuff lying about, but it seems like its been years.

John Justen, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

not heard the new remix album, but i loved DAMP, the internet only release. the packaging was perfectly foetus-esque and very high quality, as was the music (off cuts/remixes from the Love-era).
in fact i have listened to that more than Love, actually.
as for remixes ?
well, he's more into the serious art stuff now isn't he ? shows with orchestras and such.
i doubt labels are going to be offering him $$ for remixes these days.
having said that i know he owes a remix to DJ Food, so you never know !

mark e, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

is this a website only release ?
that cover is truly fantastic.
fuck you hirst and your diamond skull.

mark e, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 07:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"-This item cannot be shipped outside the U.S.A. and Canada."

bastards. bastards. bastards.

mark e, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon (US, anyway) has only the LP listed. Give it time, I'm sure they'll stock the CD as well.

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Just read the notes/promo piece from Jackson Publick and was struck by the fact that Quilombo, the album that he says got him to hire Thirlwell in the first place, and indeed all the other Steroid Maximus material aside from the last album is long out of print and impossible to find. Not only that, Flow (which is all over the Venture Bros. pilot, "Cirrhosis of the Heart" especially) is out of print and insanely expensive, despite being only a few years old, while its goddamn remix album is still available and easy to find. WTF, Blue Note?

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

excuse me Thirsty Ear

eh all you jazz labels look alike

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i got Flow off Amazon about a year and a half ago for like 8 quid

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i am concentrating very hard to make your head explode right now

(is it working)

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i am actually wondering to myself "is it too late to trade in my mind"

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

wow

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:41 (three weeks ago) link

Lovely stuff

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 April 2024 00:51 (two weeks ago) link

I went there once to interview him for The Wire. It's a really nice space.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 14 April 2024 01:50 (two weeks ago) link


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