"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

i'd love for Mikhail to come back but i think the producers confirmed he's dead? otherwise, i'm pretty sure that Jin's fine and by the time they see him again he'll be completely fluent in americanese, and not just lapsing into it occasionally.

oops: Gin = Jin. Guess you can tell where my mind is tonight.

i love both Jin and Gin equally.

i have never given a fuck about libby

i only care about libby because i care about hurley.

god, he's so obnoxious! also way to be a dick to your dad when he gives you a car

hurley´s obnoxious?! wtf

am still loving the weekend at benry´s premise set up by ben´s "uh, jack, we ALL have to go back" line indicating locke. then fantasised briefly about the O6 HIJACKING a plane after Jack works his "c´mon i gotta bury my dad i mean friend i mean nemesis" magic with the reluctant desk girl. with locke on board the plane can crash on the island again - locke in place of christian etc. would love to know what ben´s "ideas" for locating it are.

locke is jack's dad and the original crash is actually the one the O6 have to engineer because time is a loop.

oh like he doesn't know where it is!
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he might, he might not. he didn´t know it´d toss him to tunisia in 2005 did he?

I'm predicting dead Locke is going to get back to the island and usurp Jacob.

Also the island is a spaceship.

Hurley started driving that car eventually, right? That's the one he drives across town in the car chase at the start of S4 isn't it?

I think Hurley can be forgiven for being a bit of a dick to his dad seeing as his dad walked out on them when he was a child and only turned up again when he discovered his son was a mult-millionaire.

xpost On any other show, I would welcome spaceships but not this one. For a show so concerned with the idea of humanity (...the nature of), bringing aliens into it = BOO.

NOT SURE IF MORE LIKING THE DANIEL UNSTUCK IN SPACE-TIME THEORY OR THE DANIEL/JIN ISLAND SEARCHING TEAM-UP THEORY...BOTH ARE GOOD I AM SAYING

Amusing interview with Naveen Andrews:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a99429/qa-naveen-andrews-lost.html

That is a great interview! And whoah, he only watched the pilot! How strange must that be.

...which of the many twists do you want to find out the answer to?
"The foot with the f**king toe missing. What was that and is it going to come back? Is there going to be two feet next time, with a geezer on top as the rest of the body?"

This is brilliantly in touch with alot of viewers I think!

re: Daniel/Jim's wild ride: Jin's a fisherman so they should be okay for food as well. I like it!

Haha Daniel and Jin alone in the sea together would be hilarious, they just wouldn't be able to communicate with one another. Jin would look at Daniel earnestly and say in his best English "do you want fish?" and Dan would be staring right past him and going "well... fish is kind of an elastic concept at this point..."

Haha.

Maybe he's been keeping that tie on all this time so that it will be used to create a fishing lure/boomerang/parachute for rescue.

Just watched the pilot of JJ Abrams' Fringe.

It could be the best show since Lost began. Serious.

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It could be the best show since Lost began. Serious.

Wow, I had the opposite reaction, I thought it was really derivative. I liked the production values and the lead actress is good, but there was nothing I haven't really seen before.

I liked Fringe a lot but yeah, wasn't that blown away. It's kinda standard JJ Abrams, I guess. hot female lead with loyal support team and a big mystery conspiracy. Only this time less spy hijinks, more pseudoscience. And Dharma/Hanso-like evil corporations rather than evil governments.

I'm guessing Michael Giacchino does the music for Fringe as well - he does the same cello "bong" sound whenever there's a crucial reveal/plot point. At one point, they re-used the bit from when the castaways are traipsing across the island in the finales... it was really odd and distracting to hear the Lost score on a different show.

Yeah, the re-used musical cues were distracting, since I recognized them from Lost too. I just assumed it was a temp track, like the Morricone cue from The Mission that was in every trailer for a few years. And I thought the credit sequence was unfinished, it seemed pasted on.

Kirk Acevedo's final monologue was … painful. Was it a good idea to cast Lance Reddick again? He's awesome but I dunno about having him in two Abrams shows at once. (Trying not to go into too much detail since offtopic and possibly spoilery.)

you're probably right that it is temp music - i forget they never settle these things for pilot episodes and assumed, with Abrams and Reddick in it, that they just got Giacchino to do it as well. I think the show has room to improve.. maybe get better writers. Dialogue was awful.

i don't really see a problem with Reddick being on both shows so long as they don't decide to significantly expand his role on Lost. I mean Alan Dale/Charles Widmore is on at least three or four different shows at a time (he's still a regular on Ugly Betty right? plus all his brit shows) and they still managed to make it work somehow.

widmore was killed off ugly betty at the end of last season i think but yeah, it was never really a problem having him on both.

ah ok.

btw, there's a tiny Lost shout-out near the start... i won't spoil it here, but did anyone else spot it? and their head showrunner is former Lost exec/writer Jeff Pinkner, so i'm guessing lots of little crossover-refs like this between these two shows if Fringe gets picked up.

plus all his brit shows

Er, these don't exist.

Well, except for one episode of Torchwood.

yeah? i thought he did a couple of other UK shows plus Spamalot. In any case, the guy seems to be regularly employed.

Britishes know him as Jim Robinson, one of the original characters from the popular Aussie soap Neighbours. He had one of the two most distressing death scenes of my childhood.

It doesn't matter how much A List American telly Alan Dale does, he will always be Jim Robinson to us.

Man, I bet he hates that.

Where'd you guys see Fringe? It's supposed to be premiering in Sept.

A couple of comments:

1. Adam + Eve = Bernard + Rose, obviously? Hasn't this occurred to anyone else?
2. Jack is not going to be able to convince everyone to go back to the island. He's going to have a kidnap at least one of them (part of what Ben meant by saying he could help).

"obviously"

yeah, how is that obvious

Alan Dale will always be conniving grandpa Caleb Nichol on The O.C. to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNdFbwgg0E

Rose and Bernard as Adam and Eve occurred to me as well. I can't see them killing them off and I can't see them leaving the island, so it would be a convenient end to their story.

But I still think its Jack and Kate really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yATh1D-3u8

There's Jim Robinson dying. Eww that gurgling noise.

black and white stones - that's the clue

our favourite show got mostly shut out of the emmys again - not even a directing or writing nom. although crossed fingers for Michael Emerson (Best Supporting) and long shot for the Outstanding Drama category.

It got a bunch of technical noms.

aye but they hardly win those either. I think this is the least number of emmy noms they've ever had.

I don't like the Adam & Eve thing at all (if it's meant to be some kind of time glitch and that's two people we know now). If they were gonna do that kind of thing (on-island 'future echoes') there should be more incidents of it, unless J&K remain on the island long after everyone else has gone or directly cause another time-jump/teleportation/whatever - something significant enough for the future echo to be a gap of several years rather than just the minutes-hours we've seen so far. But this would still be rubbish as so many will have worked out who they are beforehand.

I never saw Jim Robinson die (stopped watching before that). Don't think I'm ready yet.

Just a consideration re: Adam & Eve and the stones: Jack took them, not Rose or Bernard. Of course, it's unlikely Jack managed to keep them, what with the being trapped in the hydra, a second plane crash, and all the other things.. but maybe they are in his tent?

Jim Robinson died?!?!

Didn't Desmond have the black and white stones at some point? I seem to remember them appearing in one of his flashbacks. I don't think I'm making this up. I remember being convinced that Adam + Eve would be Desmond and Penny for a while, anyway.

I was really hoping that the Des & Penny episode would get recognized somehow. I think I enjoyed that 45 minutes of television more than anything in a long, long time.

It's great that Season 5 handled time travel without any serious complications. And the Sawyer-Juliet episode "LaFleur" was one of the best episodes of the series. They never figured out who was shooting at them on the boats, however.

That's the one mystery they didn't solve. Maybe it serves to show that there have been people shooting at each other on that island for centuries.

When people say this is a disappointment I just don't get it . This show was a huge part of my life and I will defend it to the end

The show *really* lost its way in the fifth season finale and the final season, but I still think fondly of it. The podcast was fun.