I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

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it's for kids.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
from Chris Mathews:

“One of the things I’ve found in life is that politicians are a lot more sincere than us journalists and we are more sincere than the people that read and watch us.µ

vid here

kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

On "Meet the Press," challenged on an assertion that 10,000 Iraqis will die every month if the U.S. pulls out, The New York Times columnist admits he just picked the number "out of the air."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003615101

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw the broadcast. He also implied that it's worth losing a few hundred Americans a month if it keeps 10,00,00o,00,000,000 Iraqis from dying. For once Bob Woodward acted like a journalist and went after him.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

As much as I hate to defend Brooks, I think this is an unfair "gotcha" slam - he was obviously using the number 10,000 rhetorically to begin with. He's just trying to argue that even more Iraqis will die if we pull out, which may or may not be true but is not exactly an assertion "out of the air."

Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Given that so many generals, Bushies, neocons, and "experts" have offered their own out-of-the-air assertions since 2002, I'm prepared to slap the shit out of Brooks, especially after that slavish Bush column he wrote last week.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

But Hurting, he's inserting an exact number to make a hypothetical scenario seem like a concrete actuality. Far from the worst of his crimes, but it highlights how slippery his support for his arguments typically is.

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

In other words, I'd let this go in many other cases, but Brooks deserves to be called out on this.

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok, but advocates of withdrawal say stuff like "It can't get worse than it already is" all the time, which is just as hypothetical.

Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Besides, how literal-minded do you have to be to think that David Brooks is claiming to know exactly how many Iraqis will die per month?

Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, he claims to know a lot of stuff that he doesn't!

But regardless, this sort of rhetoric gets those numbers out there as talking points. Soon enough, 10K and 125 become the accepted estimations that you have to argue against.

Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Should we just keep a running tally of his clueless Obama/"class warfare"/"lakefront liberal" columns that he dribbles out like so much Olean?

F'instance

Perhaps he'll finally reach the point of just doing a find/replace of "Kerry" with "Obama" on his shit from 4 years ago. It would certainly save him effort.

kingfish, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Methinks that lean times at the Times call for a cutback:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/opinion/03brooks.html

autosocratic asphyxiation (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

actually i kind of liked that column--he's right, all Ward 3'rs hate everyone in Bethesda and Potomac.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I grew up in Ward 3. Maybe the dynamics have changed since I lived there (due to 8 years of republican rule?) but at the time I didn't sense that there was a huge distinction seen between that and Bethesda. Also Ward 3 was full of incredibly intelligent, interesting people who could have made much more money in the private sector and felt some kind of calling to government.

"Nyah, they're just jealous" -- this passes for biting social commentary?

autosocratic asphyxiation (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i was kind of kidding--like everything else he writes about he's way over simplified everything. dude is such a goober

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

ah ok, I think I see the sarcasm now

autosocratic asphyxiation (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

as far as i can tell brooks never knows if he's kidding or not.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

its funny how in their search for a palatable republican the times found the most inane guy in the wrold

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/images/2007/05/15/david_brooks.jpg

"OK, fine. Let's talk about inanity."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

David Brooks is the name of:
David Allen Brooks (born 1947), American film and television actor who played archaeologist Max Eilerson on the science-fiction television series Crusade
David Brooks (author) (born 1953), Australian author of short stories and co-editor for Southerly
David "Bubba" Brooks, American jazz musician
David Brooks (inventor), inventor who patented an innovative insulator for telegraph lines in 1867 while working for the Central Pacific Railroad
David Brooks (journalist) (born 1961), commentator for The New York Times and other publications
David "Mavado" Brooks (musician), Jamaican dancehall artist
David Brooks (murderer) (born 1955), teenaged accomplice of serial killer Dean Corll
David Brooks (politician) (1756–1838), United States representative in the Fifth United States Congress
David Brooks (rugby league), Australian rugby league footballer
David Brooks (rugby union), British rugby union footballer

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

No results found for "gayvid brooks".

velko, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.suepatrick.com/images_home_special/david_brooks.jpg

velko, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Maybe this is the David Brooks thread I'm looking for.

Taibbi dissects what has got to be one of the worst things Brooks has written in recent memory.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/27/populism-just-like-racism/

KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

There he was on PBS last night talking about the State of the Union and all I could think about at the time was his error-filled hateful post on Haiti.

Taibbi needs to challenge him to a public debate.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

MT really on fire there

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

It's hard to believe that the same columnist today wrote a piece that channels some sort of "saner Ross Perot" populist that Obama should either become or lose to in 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/opinion/29brooks.html?ref=opinion

killah priest, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

in private he wanks to military coups tho

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Friday, 29 January 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it is a source of amazement in my daily life that this guy is allowed to write anywhere, much less for the nyt

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

And appear on PBS and NPR.

So he wants a 'Perot' to turn Obama into a Clinton to get rid of the deficit and not do any of those liberal things he thinks are predictable. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

On a minor note, it's A HUGE pet peeve when a writer, usually a columnist, tries to avoid using a cliché by modifying it. Like:

There is a specter haunting America: the specter of a saner, updated version of Ross Perot.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"there is a parrot haunting america: an avian, updated version of phil spector"

u b ilxin' (Hunt3r), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

he reads like a columnist you'd find in an airplane magazine

bnw, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not even a matter of disagreeing with him--i just don't think he's very bright.

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

lol or what bnw said!

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

He's swayed by power and the kind of self-mocking assurance that he wishes he had.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

aren't we all

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i kind of agree with that column?

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i think Obama could use a little crazy Perot/crazy chart stuff right about now

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

A spectre is haunting Mr. Que.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

but i mean Brooks usually drives me crazy with his bullshit

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I am so pro-crazy charts

iatee, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

He is slick. He sets up strawmen on the left and right and puts himself in the middle. The problem is his descriptions of the left, right, and middle are never accurate even if he claims to be quoting an informed neutral source.

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

If you get a deficit-reduction deal, you break through the polarized rigidities that encrust everything else.

Yea like the lobbyists just disappeared and both parties got what their constituents wanted after Clinton reduced the deficit.

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

He may be an asshole, but he is now the NYT OpEd Page's most fervent Obama supporter! (The company you keep...) And he hit truth here:

To the consternation of many on the left, Obama has continued about 80 percent of the policies of the second Bush term.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/opinion/12brooks.html

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Context, bro:

"Take foreign policy. To the consternation of many on the left, Obama has continued about 80 percent of the policies of the second Bush term."

bnw, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, Brooks is an idiot, so "company you keep" applies to people agreeing with his thought process i.e. you.

bnw, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

oic

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Democratfascists

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

eh i actually agreed with that last brooks column

k3vin k., Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the worst paragraphs I’ve ever read pic.twitter.com/kZRfi2Ol0Y

— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) November 24, 2022

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 November 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

From the comments on above tweet about Brooks saying his ears were straight outa Compton—

In 1991 when David Brooks was a 30 year old man writing columns about how the Black people who make the music he likes deserve poverty and suffering, his current wife was six years old

— Hilary Agro 🍄 @hilarya✧✧✧@masto✧✧✧.l✧✧ (@hilaryagro) November 24, 2022

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

from the same column:

My body has matured; my tastes have not.

Then there are the times that are just awkward — like the time at a Nas concert when a seven-foot-tall woman in a black bodice came up to me and asked, “What on earth are you doing here?”

rejected Piano Man lyrics


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