"proudly"
― nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Just picturing a supervisor coming by and telling him, "just make sure the 'ass' part remains visible."
― pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Ha. "But not just the "ass!" He displayed it at his home, not at work.
― nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
lol I can't believe I couldn't conjure the term "Cajun" back there.
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/TAb7cg0.gif
― pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
should i tell my dad to stop saying "coon" to refer to raccoons y/n
lol, and n
― the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
toilet bears!
― pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
a white sort-of-friend of mine has a solo shoegaze/loop project called 'slave names.' the name doesn't sit right with me but i don't know that it's racist. he has a webpage with only this video on the front page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SldZ-r5pHfA
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
Surely there is a 90s TV show he can co-opt instead.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
ikr??
― gbx, Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
xpost
otm. i'm leaning towards not overtly racist, but a really stupid choice. i'm slated to record and put a tape release for him. i really love his music, and i like him a lot, but i don't feel very comfortable doing it because of the name.
there was a VERY recent and VERY public incident with a local band full of actual racist rednecks called Dead Injun (!), who were publicly called out on their name/banned from a couple venues (they were always banned from mine), resulting in a ton of social fallout for me and a couple other people, therefore i'm really loathe to even start this conversation with him. :/
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Cricket Australia seem to think all Indians look the same and a bunch of white people on twitter defend it and say political correctness has gone mad and how its only whites complaining and because they are white they cant be offended. The usual..
http://i.imgur.com/PhivY0i.jpg
They apologised and removed it after complaintshttps://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/408399367381340160
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
backstory - last week an announcer got reprimanded after mocking Monty over the pa system by speaking in a fake indian 'funny' accent.
Also its been a real nasty series so far after the summers events.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link
ok reposted it hererolling 2013 thread on race and racism
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
throwing out a flag: clearly racist
― Nhex, Thursday, 5 December 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
Tory party racist? My girlfriend is Chinese
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link
crepe
― beef in the new era (wins), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link
“Conservatives are not racist. So many of the Conservatives have foreign wives after all.”
- so many choice quotes in that article
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link
xposted from Tim McGraw thread: Tim McGraw Announces 2014 Sundown Heaven Town Tour
http://tasteofcountry.com/tim-mcgraw-2014-sundown-heaven-town-tour/
― charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link
McGraw was 1 when when the Civil Rights Act was signed, and the closest "sundown town" to his home in Start, Louisiana was Pollock, which was like 90 minutes away. It would not exactly shock me if he didn't know what this meant, but I guess someone could have spoken up.
― lisa 龜 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
SAlso people will probably always say sundown to mean nighttime/twilight. The word is definitely not exclusive to racism afficianados.
― how's life, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
I speak English and am aware of the literal definition of "sundown" — It just frustrates (but doesn't surprise) me that people in the country music industry would have such a poor understanding of the history whose signifiers they trade in. I agree w/Whiney: It would not exactly shock me if he didn't know what this meant, but I guess someone could have spoken up.
― charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
I guess
― mh, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
maybe i'm the real racist
― charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Who knew Gordon Lightfoot was such a racist.
― pplains, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
Don't talk shit about Gordon Lightfoot
― frogbs, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Maybe it's the earth's rotation that is the real racist.
― how's life, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link
"the watchman's gone" off sundown is all time
― flopson, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
kkkopernican heliocentrism
― balls, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
tell me about the word "yankee". if a person (white, southern) uses that a lot, is it generally a problem? i realise it's not quite a confederate belt buckle, but something about it.
― caek, Saturday, 18 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
that whole damn album is amazing, christ
― frogbs, Saturday, 18 January 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
come on y'all the word "sundown" is not the issue here it's "sundown town"
i hardly ever use the word "yankee" & i only use it in certain cases where i'm speaking for a particular point of view that is not necessarily my own. e.g.
I think most people from the deep south would think I talk like a yankee though― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Monday, December 23, 2013 4:50 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Monday, December 23, 2013 4:50 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but thinking more deeply about the context of that word makes me not want to use it even in that context. the extent to which it's hideously offensive has only recently occurred to me tbh. :/
― charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Is it offensive? I've never taken it seriously.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I think it carries as much baggage as the knee-jerk disdain for "southerners" or the broad generalizations about "the south" that you might hear in other parts of the country. It's not really used above the mason-dixon at all, unless you're referring to the baseball team.
It's especially a non-starter in the midwest/west as there's no real historical context. I might be a yankee to some in the southeastern US, but being called such has no real associations for me
― mh, Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link
i will use the word yankee to refer to particular northeast attitudes, cultural phenomena -- i think it's as offensive as calling someone "whitey" imo
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/21/russian-socialite-zhukova-racist-chair-naked-black-mannequin?CMP=fb_gu
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ygULo1b.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link
Jesus, Snoop
thread of snoop pictured with other ppl cuz he does this a lot
― Walter Galt, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
Yes, you are correct, Walter.
Only way that could've more awkward would have been if Snoop had posted "Stunt double for my kung-fu movie, hahahahahah."
― pplains, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
I have a question. If a white was to cover a song by a black artist, which specifically deals with issues in the black community, it would be problematic to change the words to refer to a more general group, right? Say, The Bottle, by Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson; changing "See that black boy over there, runnin' scared" to "See that young boy over there, runnin' scared".
Obviously alcoholism is a problem in many communities, but something about the re-appropriation makes me uncomfortable. And a white artist singing the original lyrics sounds like an accusatory outsider.
No big deal, just wondering what people's thoughts are.
― badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
Meant to be "If a white artist", of course.
well you could argue that changing the lyrics shows disrespect to the author so
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm generally an "intent-over-content" guy when it comes to taboo language (erring on the side of not intentionally pissing people off for no fucking reason) so my inclination would be to respect authorial intent. i think chris rock's routine about white people singing along to rap may apply.
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
there's something problematic about removing blackness from a text in order for a white artist to be able to perform it but
well you could argue that changing the lyrics shows disrespect to the author
this isn't what's problematic about it. people covering songs change up the lyrics all the time and it's not "disrespectful," gtfo w/authorial totalitarianism, personalizing a song by changing the lyrics up a little is as totally ok. but when race is a factor, then the question gets a little thorny. (gender too maybe.)
my war against "so" at the end of a sentence continues in all cases
― second set all dead boys covers (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link
aero, your response seems to be "eh, change it if you want; author doesn't get to make you say what they want to but race and gender may make it complicated", which given that was the point of the conversation in the first place (unless i'm reading this wrong) doesn't really address the issue at all http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/gabriel-peter-so-300x300.jpg...
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
I think the point was more "make sure the change says what you want it to say" and that sometimes erasing mention of color says something you don't intend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLTwX0duY4
― SHAUN (DJP), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
write a new song, bros
― Nhex, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
^^^^
― charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
gourdsplayingginandjuice.youtube.com
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
(gender too maybe.)
You have an issue with female singers gender-flipping lyrics so they're about guys?
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link